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This won't matter to the abortion crowd. They'll say and do anything to perpetuate and rationalize it. Look for them to come out in force to debunk this report, quickly.
1 posted on 01/07/2007 4:16:05 PM PST by edpc
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To: edpc

That was my thought, too. Research so far overwhelmingly favors the use of adult stem cells over embryonic stem cells, but leftist politicians and leftist reporters simply ignore it.

It doesn't satisfy their need to worship Baal.


2 posted on 01/07/2007 4:20:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: edpc

I think this thread got started this aft. under a slightly different name.


3 posted on 01/07/2007 4:21:34 PM PST by Thywillnotmine
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ping.


6 posted on 01/07/2007 4:25:14 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: edpc; Coleus; neverdem; wagglebee

ping.


7 posted on 01/07/2007 4:25:17 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: edpc

Hmmm...this has even broken in the MSM...

http://news.google.com/news?as_q=&svnum=10&as_scoring=r&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wn&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=%22amniotic+fluid%22&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nsrc=&as_nloc=&as_occt=any&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=8&as_minm=1&as_maxd=7&as_maxm=1


8 posted on 01/07/2007 4:25:20 PM PST by VOA
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Must Murder Babies! Yep- I fully expect they will- yet another blow to their genocide agenda- Hope this amniotic fluid deal gets pushed real hard though- shut hte abortion crowd up once and for all- tired of their 'fetal cells are our only hope for cures and anyone that opposes must not care about cripple people' rhetoric. http://sacredscoop.com


9 posted on 01/07/2007 4:27:12 PM PST by CottShop
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"sidestepping the controversy over destroying embryos for research"

If it doesn't serve to devalue life of the unborn it simply will not do. Count on the left to argue that these stem cells just aren't as good as the one's you get when you destroy life.


10 posted on 01/07/2007 4:27:37 PM PST by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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Incredible, but I (non scientist that I am) have always wondered about this and when I read the article, I thought, "well, of course!"

But as you say, that's not going to matter. The "stem cell" thing is all about promoting abortion and has nothing to do with anybody seriously wanting a cure for any disease or condition.


12 posted on 01/07/2007 4:28:05 PM PST by livius
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excellent news----won't see the light of day----doesn't fit the agenda template, don' cha know?!


14 posted on 01/07/2007 4:28:59 PM PST by krunkygirl
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More news that will get buried by the left.

15 posted on 01/07/2007 4:29:58 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: edpc
The BBC version.
17 posted on 01/07/2007 4:30:55 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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The stem cells are supposed to be pluripotent.


18 posted on 01/07/2007 4:34:02 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: edpc

Cool, we can harvest stem cells from welfare breeders in exchange for benefits!


23 posted on 01/07/2007 4:45:29 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: edpc

Remarkable.


34 posted on 01/07/2007 6:08:28 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: edpc
Scientists reported Sunday they had found a plentiful source of stem cells in the fluid that cushions babies in the womb and produced a variety of tissue types from these cells - sidestepping the controversy over destroying embryos for research.

Great, maybe now we kill the patient without killing an embryo first. Our how about trying adult stem cells -- you know the ones that can heal instead of just giving you cancerous tumors?

37 posted on 01/07/2007 7:44:07 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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As somebody who has worked with human embryonic stem cells, I applaud this finding. The reasons:
1. Banking amniotic stem cells is far easier than creating them de novo. Plus, for embryonic stem cells to be useful for men, somatic cell nuclear transfer must be used. This has never been accomplished for humans (although it is quite technically possible) and has the ethical problem that it requires egg donation from women to work.
2. We (as scientists) are sensitive to the concerns of the public. Although very few biologists believe that blastocysts are human life, you all pay our grants. We don't want you to think that we are callous to your concerns. One, for the purely selfish reason that you'll be less likely to vote to fund our research. Two, part of being a biomedical researcher (same as an MD) is to maximize benefits to humanity for the least cost. Three (and this is a critical part of any scientists' outlook), *we could be wrong*. Blastocysts could indeed be human life.

If you are wondering what you, as an individual, can do to divert the course of biomedical research away from hESCs, the answer is simple. Donate to charities that fund research on amniotic/cord blood/adult stem cells. The problem right now is that hESCs are the "gold standard" of stem cell research.

Although it is true that hESCs are the most promising, in theory, the ethical and technical concerns make them less practically promising than other stem cells. However, the problem with funding research on other stem cells is that they are not totipotent (capable of forming every possible tissue). Therefore, the research money on pluripotent stem cells (capable of forming nearly every tissue), is discouraged, as years of research could be "wasted" by working on the wrong cell type. We are still too far away from medical benefits from hESCs/pluripotent stem cells for funding to be biased toward the easier to establish pluripotent stem cells. Non-federal funding of other types of stem cells could go a long way toward changing the direction of the field.

Because this research will be done. And the way it looks now, especially with research funding the way it is in the US, it will primarily be done on hESCs. Your money could go a long way in preventing further "lives" (the quotes are in no way a dig at anyone's beliefs, but simply an indication that I do not believe blastocysts are human life) from being lost. And your money will fund saving further lives in the future. Because stem cells (no matter what their origin) are going to be critical in therapies in the next 30 years.


40 posted on 01/07/2007 8:14:34 PM PST by zylphed
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