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Report: Amniotic Fluid Yields Stem Cells
Newsmax.com ^ | Jan. 7, 2007 6:17 p.m. EST | NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 01/07/2007 4:16:03 PM PST by edpc

Scientists reported Sunday they had found a plentiful source of stem cells in the fluid that cushions babies in the womb and produced a variety of tissue types from these cells - sidestepping the controversy over destroying embryos for research.

Researchers at Wake Forest University and Harvard University reported the stem cells they drew from amniotic fluid donated by pregnant women hold much the same promise as embryonic stem cells. They reported they were able to extract the stem cells without harm to mother or fetus and turn their discovery into several different tissue cell types, including brain, liver and bone.

"Our hope is that these cells will provide a valuable resource for tissue repair and for engineered organs as well," said Dr. Anthony Atala, head of Wake Forest's regenerative medicine institute and senior researcher on the project.

It took Atala's team some seven years of research to determine the cells they found were truly stem cells that "can be used to produce a broad range of cells that may be valuable for therapy."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; prolife; research; stemcells
This won't matter to the abortion crowd. They'll say and do anything to perpetuate and rationalize it. Look for them to come out in force to debunk this report, quickly.
1 posted on 01/07/2007 4:16:05 PM PST by edpc
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To: edpc

That was my thought, too. Research so far overwhelmingly favors the use of adult stem cells over embryonic stem cells, but leftist politicians and leftist reporters simply ignore it.

It doesn't satisfy their need to worship Baal.


2 posted on 01/07/2007 4:20:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: edpc

I think this thread got started this aft. under a slightly different name.


3 posted on 01/07/2007 4:21:34 PM PST by Thywillnotmine
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To: nanster

If you have the link, could you post it for cross reference? This Newsmax article was just posted a little over an hour ago.


4 posted on 01/07/2007 4:23:24 PM PST by edpc (The pen is mightier than the sword......until you fight someone.)
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To: All

Bush was right. There is a better way to harvest stem cells. Too bad this report came two months too late. I wonder if Michael J. Fox is feeling a little stupid right now.


5 posted on 01/07/2007 4:23:28 PM PST by WBL 1952
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To: edpc; Coleus; neverdem; wagglebee

ping.


6 posted on 01/07/2007 4:25:14 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: edpc; Coleus; neverdem; wagglebee

ping.


7 posted on 01/07/2007 4:25:17 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: edpc

Hmmm...this has even broken in the MSM...

http://news.google.com/news?as_q=&svnum=10&as_scoring=r&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wn&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=%22amniotic+fluid%22&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nsrc=&as_nloc=&as_occt=any&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=8&as_minm=1&as_maxd=7&as_maxm=1


8 posted on 01/07/2007 4:25:20 PM PST by VOA
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To: edpc

Must Murder Babies! Yep- I fully expect they will- yet another blow to their genocide agenda- Hope this amniotic fluid deal gets pushed real hard though- shut hte abortion crowd up once and for all- tired of their 'fetal cells are our only hope for cures and anyone that opposes must not care about cripple people' rhetoric. http://sacredscoop.com


9 posted on 01/07/2007 4:27:12 PM PST by CottShop
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To: edpc

"sidestepping the controversy over destroying embryos for research"

If it doesn't serve to devalue life of the unborn it simply will not do. Count on the left to argue that these stem cells just aren't as good as the one's you get when you destroy life.


10 posted on 01/07/2007 4:27:37 PM PST by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: edpc; nanster

NewsMax is notorious for changing the titles of stories they get off the AP wire.


11 posted on 01/07/2007 4:27:57 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: edpc

Incredible, but I (non scientist that I am) have always wondered about this and when I read the article, I thought, "well, of course!"

But as you say, that's not going to matter. The "stem cell" thing is all about promoting abortion and has nothing to do with anybody seriously wanting a cure for any disease or condition.


12 posted on 01/07/2007 4:28:05 PM PST by livius
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To: WBL 1952

I don't really fault Fox for wanting a cure for what he's got- but I do fault him and others in his camp for the angry rhetoric he used against hte President for having moral concerns


13 posted on 01/07/2007 4:28:44 PM PST by CottShop
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To: edpc

excellent news----won't see the light of day----doesn't fit the agenda template, don' cha know?!


14 posted on 01/07/2007 4:28:59 PM PST by krunkygirl
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To: edpc; Jedi Master Pikachu; 69ConvertibleFirebird; Alexander Rubin; An American In Dairyland; ...
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More news that will get buried by the left.

15 posted on 01/07/2007 4:29:58 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: WBL 1952
I do not think lib's are capable of feeling remorse or stupid, however they always have an excuse.
16 posted on 01/07/2007 4:30:20 PM PST by Kimmers (It's not what you take when you leave this world behind, it's what you leave behind when you go)
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To: edpc
The BBC version.
17 posted on 01/07/2007 4:30:55 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: edpc

The stem cells are supposed to be pluripotent.


18 posted on 01/07/2007 4:34:02 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
According to your tagline, I've posted two stories from an invalid news source in one day.....and many others before that.

:-D

19 posted on 01/07/2007 4:34:56 PM PST by edpc (The pen is mightier than the sword......until you fight someone.)
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To: wagglebee

I am a WALKING harbinger of life. :)


20 posted on 01/07/2007 4:41:28 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: CottShop

Fox has the moral concerns of your typical Ba'al worshipper.


21 posted on 01/07/2007 4:42:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cgk

You certainly are! :-)


22 posted on 01/07/2007 4:43:23 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: edpc

Cool, we can harvest stem cells from welfare breeders in exchange for benefits!


23 posted on 01/07/2007 4:45:29 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: edpc
Sorry. No offense was intended to you specifically, of course. It's just that personally do not consider those sources to always (or even frequently) post accurate news.

In contrast, the mainstream media does seem accurate in what it posts--it only tends to post one side of a story, though, and often contains commentary, opinions, and a biased slant to the writing.

The Washington Times seems to be a newspaper that generally has conservative articles on actual things that happen.

24 posted on 01/07/2007 4:50:32 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: Cicero

I happen to know that stem cells embryonic fluid has been saved since at least 1964, when my son was born. I was shown the freezer where it was kept, so I take it with a grain of salt what some call "possibliites". There is really nothing new. I have not seen any advances so far.


25 posted on 01/07/2007 4:58:51 PM PST by tessalu
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To: muawiyah

Well I understand that but he's also suffering from something that has stolen his life, and as an unbeliever, he doesn't have insight into moral issues or God's plans for our lives- I'm not condoning his feelings- just stating that I can understand how he might feel faced with what he has.


26 posted on 01/07/2007 5:35:54 PM PST by CottShop
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu; edpc
Researchers say amniotic fluid yields stem cells
Adult stem-cell breakthroughs
Amniotic fluid used successfully instead of stem cells
Amniotic Fluid Stem Cells Provide Another ESCR Alternative
Heart Valves Grown From Womb Fluid Cells
The Stem Cell Cover-Up By Michael Fumento

27 posted on 01/07/2007 5:38:08 PM PST by Coleus (Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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To: WBL 1952

I believe God always provides an ethical path to success and progress- if we can find it and follow it.

We aren't going to need abortion to do this. IMHO


28 posted on 01/07/2007 5:43:43 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush if given a chance.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
One of the original claims of the embryonic stem cell crowd was that since these stem cells had not yet differentiated you could just stick them in anybody and they'd grow new tissues without immunologic rejection.

Of course, that was junk science, so this problem continues to need to be overcome if embryonic stem cells are used. At the same time, stem cells from someone else, even from amniotic fluid, will still bring about an immunologic rejection.

Victims of the practitioners of the dark art of stem cell transplanting will need to take autoimmune suppressor drugs the rest of their lives.

The best bets continue to be the adult stem cells in your own body ~ not someone else's.

29 posted on 01/07/2007 5:45:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: krunkygirl; edpc; Coleus; wagglebee; Peach; airborne; Asphalt; Dr. Scarpetta; I'm ALL Right!; ...
excellent news----won't see the light of day----doesn't fit the agenda template, don' cha know?!

Give credit where credit is due. The amniotic fluid stem cell story has been on the radio news, WABC 770 AM, in NYC tonight.

A Tissue Engineer Sows Cells and Grows Organs

Same Dr. Anthony Atala on that link.

30 posted on 01/07/2007 5:59:33 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: edpc

posted by Paulsrevenge at 2:08

Researchers Say Amniotic Fluid Reveals Stem Cells


31 posted on 01/07/2007 6:05:18 PM PST by Thywillnotmine
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To: edpc

make that normsrevenge


32 posted on 01/07/2007 6:06:14 PM PST by Thywillnotmine
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To: Finalapproach29er

At the moment, harvesting amniotic fluid remains very dangerous for the fetus.


33 posted on 01/07/2007 6:07:47 PM PST by Thywillnotmine
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To: edpc

Remarkable.


34 posted on 01/07/2007 6:08:28 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I am toying with the idea of getting a couple of ideological T-shirts for myself, including ones that say
BREEDER

and

BIOLOGICALLY TENACIOUS

These are concepts I personally identify with and defend.

So when you say "breeder," say it with respect.

Buddy.

35 posted on 01/07/2007 7:14:54 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Begotten, not made.)
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To: nanster
"At the moment, harvesting amniotic fluid remains very dangerous for the fetus."

I believe it depends on how much you harvest, and at what time in the pregnancy. I think that ultrasound has advanced to the point where you can do a needle biopsy (amniocentesis) of a couple of cc of fluid in mid-trimester with less than 1% chance of sticking the baby or triggering contractions.

(It might not be ethical to expose the baby to ANY unnecessary risk, though. I wouldn't do it unless it had some therapeutic justification for my baby, individually, and not just for the advancement of research generally.)

But that's just my impression. Anybody out there have any details about the degree of risk?

36 posted on 01/07/2007 7:23:33 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Begotten, not made.)
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To: edpc
Scientists reported Sunday they had found a plentiful source of stem cells in the fluid that cushions babies in the womb and produced a variety of tissue types from these cells - sidestepping the controversy over destroying embryos for research.

Great, maybe now we kill the patient without killing an embryo first. Our how about trying adult stem cells -- you know the ones that can heal instead of just giving you cancerous tumors?

37 posted on 01/07/2007 7:44:07 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: Cicero
It doesn't satisfy their need to worship Baal.

The whole situation reminded me of Baal worship too.

38 posted on 01/07/2007 7:45:54 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: WBL 1952
The better way to harvest embryonic stem cells appears to be not to bother -- unless cloning is what you are really after. For healing they seem to be a bust. This whole thing should be a non-issue.
39 posted on 01/07/2007 7:48:19 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: edpc

As somebody who has worked with human embryonic stem cells, I applaud this finding. The reasons:
1. Banking amniotic stem cells is far easier than creating them de novo. Plus, for embryonic stem cells to be useful for men, somatic cell nuclear transfer must be used. This has never been accomplished for humans (although it is quite technically possible) and has the ethical problem that it requires egg donation from women to work.
2. We (as scientists) are sensitive to the concerns of the public. Although very few biologists believe that blastocysts are human life, you all pay our grants. We don't want you to think that we are callous to your concerns. One, for the purely selfish reason that you'll be less likely to vote to fund our research. Two, part of being a biomedical researcher (same as an MD) is to maximize benefits to humanity for the least cost. Three (and this is a critical part of any scientists' outlook), *we could be wrong*. Blastocysts could indeed be human life.

If you are wondering what you, as an individual, can do to divert the course of biomedical research away from hESCs, the answer is simple. Donate to charities that fund research on amniotic/cord blood/adult stem cells. The problem right now is that hESCs are the "gold standard" of stem cell research.

Although it is true that hESCs are the most promising, in theory, the ethical and technical concerns make them less practically promising than other stem cells. However, the problem with funding research on other stem cells is that they are not totipotent (capable of forming every possible tissue). Therefore, the research money on pluripotent stem cells (capable of forming nearly every tissue), is discouraged, as years of research could be "wasted" by working on the wrong cell type. We are still too far away from medical benefits from hESCs/pluripotent stem cells for funding to be biased toward the easier to establish pluripotent stem cells. Non-federal funding of other types of stem cells could go a long way toward changing the direction of the field.

Because this research will be done. And the way it looks now, especially with research funding the way it is in the US, it will primarily be done on hESCs. Your money could go a long way in preventing further "lives" (the quotes are in no way a dig at anyone's beliefs, but simply an indication that I do not believe blastocysts are human life) from being lost. And your money will fund saving further lives in the future. Because stem cells (no matter what their origin) are going to be critical in therapies in the next 30 years.


40 posted on 01/07/2007 8:14:34 PM PST by zylphed
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The therapeutic benefits are early detection of disease by amniocentesis, which may affect your diet/habits during pregancy, and how the baby is treated during neonatancy. Also, the amniotic stem cells are a perfect match for the baby, so problems that crop up later in life could be treated by banked amniotic stem cells with very little risk.


41 posted on 01/07/2007 8:17:45 PM PST by zylphed
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To: zylphed
If you are wondering what you, as an individual, can do to divert the course of biomedical research away from hESCs, the answer is simple. Donate to charities that fund research on amniotic/cord blood/adult stem cells. The problem right now is that hESCs are the "gold standard" of stem cell research.

That's my biggest problem with the whole stem cell debate. President Bush does not want to publicly fund embryonic stem cell research, but does not restrict private donations or research. Those who howl and whine the most about the need for this research are in the financial position to fund it. It's a pure political power grab, nothing more.

42 posted on 01/08/2007 4:37:37 AM PST by edpc (The pen is mightier than the sword......until you fight someone.)
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To: neverdem

Bump


43 posted on 01/08/2007 5:02:13 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Mrs. Don-o
So when you say "breeder," say it with respect.

Buddy.

For self-sufficient breeders, I say it with nothing but.

44 posted on 01/08/2007 8:20:53 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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