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1 posted on 01/07/2007 12:12:46 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

This is a cultural problem they will have to solve themselves. They will not listen to anyone who they don't identify with. If they choose to live this way, then death, jail, and out-of-wedlock births will be the future. Not much of a hopeful legacy being passed down.


2 posted on 01/07/2007 12:19:17 AM PST by MovementConservative (The US will win in Iraq. Thank you all US troops.)
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To: neverdem

Rap is the culprit in killing music.


3 posted on 01/07/2007 12:21:20 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: neverdem

Rap isn't the culprit in my view. Sure, rap isn't helping, but the rappers are recounting what they did in the past - long before rap music.


4 posted on 01/07/2007 12:22:33 AM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: neverdem

It's a lack of desire.


5 posted on 01/07/2007 12:26:34 AM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: neverdem

" the overwhelming majority of victims and killers are young black men."






They kill a lot of everybody, and as someone that is not black I feel very uncomfortable about all the focus being about black on black crime, it implies support of the very racism that leads blacks to commit so much rape and murder against the other races.

Of course most of their victims are black, because that is who they mostly live among, but they include incredible numbers of non blacks in their violence.


7 posted on 01/07/2007 12:33:48 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: neverdem

It is sin! Out of wedlock births, sexual dysfunctions, laziness (unwillingness to work), idols other than God, worship other than God, discontentment, absent fathers, promiscous women, lack of family values.......shall I continue? Until this community of lost souls wakes up and seeks repentance real change will not happen.

The good news is that Jesus loves to save people just like all of them.


8 posted on 01/07/2007 12:35:31 AM PST by CANBFORGIVEN (! Corinthians 2:14)
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To: neverdem

This is spreading to the Muzzies too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1720092/posts


Pakistani Muslims bash Bollywood


FRANKFURT: Bollywood may wear its multi-religious pluralism as a badge of honour, but for the angry young British Muslims of Pakistani denomination, it’s all a sham and therefore a matter of extreme discomfort.

As India's oversized filmdom stampedes across the world winning accolades, a group of British Muslim youth is trashing the Bollywood genre, warning that the "cheesy second-rate imitation of Hollywood...is overrunning Pakistan and brainwashing musalmaans".

In a rap-video posted on youtube.com that is being widely circulated in Pakistani circles, the group reserves much of its venom for Bollywood’s reigning stars, many of who happen to be Muslims.

"What do you want to give your kids?/Is it Salman Khan or Islam?/Is it Shah Rukh Khan or Allah’s book?/ Is it Bobby Deol or save their souls?/ Is it Amir Khan or imaan?" intones a singer, preferring a hip-hop style to convey the message.

Hip-hop is an African-American influenced musical and cultural movement that has itself attracted criticism for its language. YouTube is a social networking website that allows users to upload, view and share videoclips and it too has attracted criticism for encouraging violence and copyright infringement.

But for the extremist Brit-Pak brigade, Bollywood bashing comes first. "Everywhere you look/It’s that kufr Bollywood/Video stores selling whores/Semi-gay actors with Muslim sounding names/With Hindu propaganda designed to create chains," goes one rant.

The unnamed group, which has produced the video from a collage of Hindi film clips and posters, says Bollywood movies are officially banned in Pakistan but it is freely available on video and DVD by piracy, which it says is "a conspiracy to allow Hindu culture thorough the backdoor."

Reports from Pakistan speak of the movie Fanaa being a big hit in the country’s underground circuit. Songs from Fanaa and other new Bollywood blockbusters are played openly in taxis and private transport.

The Pakistani elite and the ruling class lead the ranks of Bollywood aficionados, a fact that seems to rankle the British Pakistani youth who are in the limelight for their extremist views and fondness for madrassas.

"They kill Kashmiris but you still watch Mission Kashmir,’’ they admonish Pakistanis in one passage.

Another rap passage wonders: "Bollywood Bollywood what’s the future hold/ As film by film you get ever so bold/ Stories of lesbianism enter the fold/ Now you have to heat it up as it starts going cold/ Topless movies or is it incest next/ All the time it is sex sex sex."


Muslim rappers worry Western intelligence

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1737187/posts


9 posted on 01/07/2007 12:35:41 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: neverdem

I clicked on the link and received this message:

"Please register or log in The feature you requested is available only to registered members."

So we can't read the entire article. But I'm surprised that this guy doesn't blame video games as well as music for the violent behavior of young adults, i.e., he's coming to the wrong conclusion. Maybe it would be good to step back and look at parental responsibility and see how much ethical training these kids were given before being set loose on the streets.

Any time a kid does something horrific, I always ask "Where were the parents?" And generally they were nowhere to be found. Get the parents to turn out good kids and there won't be so many killings. It's just common sense.


10 posted on 01/07/2007 12:35:54 AM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: neverdem
Everybody and everything has been mentioned as enablers to Bodymore, Murderland's culture of death: lack of jobs, lack of recreational facilities, lack of music and art programs in schools, lack of mentors. Everybody's been mentioned, that is, except Joey,...

And Joey's parents.

11 posted on 01/07/2007 12:36:40 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: neverdem
Of Baltimore's nearly 300 homicide victims each year, the overwhelming majority of victims and killers are young black men.

However, the overwhelming majority of listeners of rap music are not. Blaming social ills on a form of music is ridiculous.
14 posted on 01/07/2007 12:58:35 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: neverdem
Of Baltimore's nearly 300 homicide victims each year, the overwhelming majority of victims and killers are young black men.

Holy crap...three hundred?! Is that an accurate number?

16 posted on 01/07/2007 1:14:24 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Bush/Fox Border Policy in a nutshell: "Rape is inevitable. Relax and enjoy it.")
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To: neverdem

rap does encourage, but the fact of the matter is you have lots and lots of young black men trying to get rich in businesses that can only support a few. music, drugs, pro sports, it's all the same. it's all a hustle. the weak fall by the wayside. sad but true.


17 posted on 01/07/2007 1:19:16 AM PST by thefactor
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To: neverdem

35 years ago, I was a cop working the western portion of WATTS in L.A... It isn't just rap thats killing them. 35 years ago, I stopped a little 8year old kid on his way to 2nd grade.

The reason I stopped him was because of the serrated steak knife I noticed sticking our of his back pocket. He told me his momma gave it to him and told him to carry it in case any body messes with him.

Now their "mommas" and aunties buy them the gangsta clothing without a clue where the style came from. Hey it came from the California prison system where one size fits all.

I agree "rap" continues the gangster personna, but they are raised to be violent. Thats where it comes from.


18 posted on 01/07/2007 1:19:28 AM PST by stumpy
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To: neverdem
Criminal behavoir is caused by criminal thinking...Samenow - "Inside the Criminal Mind"
19 posted on 01/07/2007 1:20:51 AM PST by PGalt
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To: neverdem

bump


21 posted on 01/07/2007 1:31:01 AM PST by prophetic
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To: neverdem
The 60's screwed things up. Looks like recent decline in murder rate was just temporary.
28 posted on 01/07/2007 1:53:25 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: neverdem

Queens Reigns Supreme: Fat Cat, 50 Cent, and the Rise of the Hip Hop Hustler by Ethan Brown


29 posted on 01/07/2007 2:14:56 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: neverdem
Rap is the culprit in killing of black men....

WRONG!!!!

RAP!
Is just a way for people with no musical talent to make $$$MILLIONS$$$ in the 'music' industry.

OH!

Kind of proves your point;
In a way.

Anything to make money, promote thuggery and sloth.
And they say that conservative whites are evil money grubbers.

34 posted on 01/07/2007 2:53:08 AM PST by SantosLHalper (Liberals - The first to cry for tolerance. The first to shut you up when you don't agree with them.)
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To: neverdem

It's liberal welfare-state policies since the '60s that have contributed most to the sorry state of inner city blacks, encouraging the break-up of families. And of course a liberal will never say that.

I'm a middle-aged (some say old :-) white guy from the midwest that's listened to rap for 20 years (Geto Boys, N.W.A., Public Enemy...). I use it as inspiration when the chips are down; never for violence.

To blame the sorry state of black youth on rap is utter bullsh*t and a copout.


37 posted on 01/07/2007 4:45:42 AM PST by American in Singapore (Bill Clinton: The Human Stain)
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To: neverdem

Sure, rap is the problem just like fishnet stockings cause prostitution and bandaleros create South American dictators. Black men are more likely to commit violent crimes by multiples of their white and Hispanic counterparts.


Is it genetic? Is it cultural? Is it responsive to oppression? Who cares?


40 posted on 01/07/2007 5:14:58 AM PST by anton
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To: neverdem
Rap is the culprit in killing of black men

I thought it was guns. - tom

51 posted on 01/07/2007 6:00:32 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: neverdem

US business spends close to a billion dollars a day investing in the theory that a few minutes of media exposure will change your behavior as a consumer.


54 posted on 01/07/2007 6:39:48 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: neverdem

55 posted on 01/07/2007 6:44:30 AM PST by Gritty (Unable to protect children from our selfish self-absorption, we protect them from falls-VanDerLeun)
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To: neverdem

Where is the "Sugar Hill Gang" when you need them?


57 posted on 01/07/2007 6:48:33 AM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: neverdem

They got here half the story.

My question is why when a black guy is in the middle of white people, he can quickly make buddies, but when a white guy makes black girlfriends at a black club things turn real sour with, indeed, grilled teeth popping all around and telling him to leave.... and fights erupt against each other just as easily...

A culture of excuse and tribalist anti-stranger xenophobic and racist behaviors in the "black system" is absolutely appaling...

oh, and did I mention the Carter Library kicked me out because I was stopping by and using their bathroom on MLK's birthday... Nice segregationist going in liberalo land.

The point is, why do liberals expect lolipops and political ribbons for not being racist when it is expected to not be racist amd to be welcoming of strangers in the first place and thus should earn no one extra credits?

Yep yep yep.... Now who is a d@#n racist hypocrite, eh?


61 posted on 01/07/2007 7:15:39 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: neverdem

Will I get spam if I register?


62 posted on 01/07/2007 8:29:58 AM PST by secretagent
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To: All

Many great comments, and IMO there is truth in practically all of them.

Later Moral Absolutes pingout.


63 posted on 01/07/2007 9:20:14 AM PST by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: neverdem

Good thing he's black. A white journalist would be excoriated for exercising Freedom of the Press and writing this.


75 posted on 01/07/2007 1:33:10 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: neverdem

I think the boxer Muhammad Ali said it best when he said:"The ghetto isn't in the town or in the streets,the ghetto is in the people."

It's all about what choices you make in life. What you choose to do makes you what you are.


84 posted on 01/07/2007 3:49:59 PM PST by 4yearlurker ("Nothing is true,and everything is permitted"--7 th Satanic vow. Sounds like Liberalism!)
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To: neverdem

blame it on the CIA.


103 posted on 01/07/2007 7:14:34 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: neverdem

106 posted on 01/07/2007 7:27:03 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (You'll shoot your eye out, kid)
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To: neverdem
Blaming rap music is just like blaming guns for crimes. I thought FR was better than that. Apparently not.

I'm not a fan of rap music but these people are entrepreneurs, and I salute them for making millions in entertainment instead of making minimum-wage at McDonald's. Isn't that's what capitalism is all about?

Hip-hop is everywhere and it's not going away. Budweiser just signed rapped Jay-Z to do commercials. Look, let's put the blame where it really belongs. The socialist government programs that have killed the black family nucleus, so-called black "leaders" who exploit other blacks, and the Democratic Party.

110 posted on 01/07/2007 7:38:15 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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