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Hasta La Vista, Social Security
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | 04 Jan 2007 | INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

Posted on 01/05/2007 7:13:32 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman

Entitlements: About to become law is an agreement allowing illegal aliens to get Social Security benefits after only 18 months of employment in the U.S., further burdening a system on the brink of collapse.

Surveys have shown that more Americans believe in the existence of unidentified flying objects than in the promise that they'll ever get back what they've put into the Social Security system. It also is against current law for employers knowingly to hire individuals who are in this country illegally.

So it must be somewhat disconcerting for them to find out that about to become law is an agreement signed on June 29, 2004, between the U.S. Commissioner of Social Security and the director general of the Mexican Social Security Institute that allows illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits if they have as little as 18 months of employment history. U.S. citizens must show 10 years, or 40 quarters of job history, to collect benefits.

The first public copy of the U.S.-Mexico Totalization Agreement has been obtained, and, no, it wasn't on the first page of the New York Times. It was obtained after three years of wrangling and a Freedom of Information Act request by the TREA Senior Citizens League (tscl.org) which represents more than 1 million seniors. And, as the saying goes, the devil is in the details.

The agreement, which awaits President Bush's signature, can take effect without Congress' approval. All the Democratic Congress has to do is nothing. It doesn't have to vote to approve it — it has only 60 days to disapprove it, which isn't likely because they likely support allowing it to become law.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: alieninvasion; aliens; elpresidentebush; illegal; immigrantlist; itsrevolutiontime; kissingmexicosass; mexico; press2forspanish; socialsecurity; surrender; totalization; whatajoke
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1 posted on 01/05/2007 7:13:34 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I quit...


2 posted on 01/05/2007 7:15:29 AM PST by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Is anyone other than me predicting violent revolution, if this becomes law?


3 posted on 01/05/2007 7:16:15 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: LIConFem

Better stay healthy for the rest of my life.


4 posted on 01/05/2007 7:18:23 AM PST by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Brilliant

Fabianist in charge, the sheep will take it.


5 posted on 01/05/2007 7:18:54 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman (The Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt the man doing it!)
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To: Brilliant

That brings a song to mind.

FReepers, take up arms. I ought to buy one as well. We may need them.


6 posted on 01/05/2007 7:19:03 AM PST by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

It will be interesting to see how many of these secretive type documents GW signs in his final midnight hours of his last day in the Oval Office.


7 posted on 01/05/2007 7:19:10 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Brilliant

Revolution? Most Americans are more concerned with which teams are going to be in the Superbowl and what guests Oprah will have on today.


8 posted on 01/05/2007 7:20:19 AM PST by jrp
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To: FLOutdoorsman
This report seemed to have received scant attention:

New amnesty push likely in 07 by Bush, Dems
  Posted by Mount Athos
On 01/04/2007 7:32:40 AM CST · 14 replies · 209+ views


Marietta Daily Journal ^ | Wednesday, January 3 | D.A. King
Five years into the war on terror, most Americans desperately hoped 2006 would be "the year" for solutions to the long national nightmare of intentionally unsecured borders and the resulting illegal immigration crisis. For many, the dream was that at a minimum, we would begin to see border security and immigration law enforcement similar to what Mexicans still living in Mexico enjoy. It didn't happen. According to a report released in late 2006 by the House Committee of Homeland Security, up to 10 million people entered the United States illegally and un-inspected last year. Georgia watched as its population of...

9 posted on 01/05/2007 7:21:03 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Once again our government advances the interests of non-citizens (lawbreakers all) at the expense of its own people. Who, then, is representing our interests?
Before anyone posts something about us having similar agreements with several other countries, let me point out that none of those agreements are with Third World countries with economies like Mexico. This is a thorough and deliberate screwing of Americans who have paid in to Social Security for their entire working lives. Next we will be told we are "selfish" for not wanting to provide 75 million Mexicans with SS benefits. I suspect the signing of this agreement will be Bush's final act in office. I think we should ask every single presidential hopeful, however deluded, what they think about this proposed treaty.


10 posted on 01/05/2007 7:22:12 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: jrp
Revolution? Most Americans are more concerned with which teams are going to be in the Superbowl and what guests Oprah will have on today.

Yeh. Many people are easily distracted by shiny objects and such.

I've been sitting here marvelling at FoxNews running and rerunning and rerunning the report of some guy who got rescued from a yacht after 3 days at sea.

It must be a slow news day for FoxNews. At least, it isn't another story of pantiless Britney.
11 posted on 01/05/2007 7:24:03 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

I'm no longer a Republican ... I'm now a Patriot.


12 posted on 01/05/2007 7:24:28 AM PST by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Ask away..but the real problem is we have very few politicians who are HONEST. Something happens to them once they are elected.

sw

13 posted on 01/05/2007 7:25:08 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife ("One Nation, One Standard")
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Guess it's time to call the WH...but I'm not holding my breath.

I, too, find little green men in saucers more plausible than seeing any SS benefits when I retire.

I hope no one is insane enough to think SS will help in their golden years.

14 posted on 01/05/2007 7:25:51 AM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

And because I was fortunate enough in the 60's and 70's to be a stay at home Mom I'm now paying the penalty for that. I can't collect my own SS as I don't have enough credit hours so depend on 1/2 of my husbands SS earnings. And yet if I were an illegal......working in USA for as little as 18 months I could collect SS. Something wrong with this picture and yet today it doesn't surprise me in the least. Thanks to our own government this is today's America...............


15 posted on 01/05/2007 7:28:15 AM PST by grannyheart2000
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To: Brilliant

If Bush signs it, and Congress does not need to approve, and the NYT corp or Katie does not report it, how could there be a revolution? Nobody would find out.

Maybe after a few years, but by that time 56% of the USA will be illegals with 18 mos work history.

Well, that may be extreme. But I don't see Americans being willing to make the sacrifices needed to wage a revolution or even to start the first Civil War.


16 posted on 01/05/2007 7:28:19 AM PST by DBrow
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To: jrp
Superbowl and what guests Oprah will have on today

100% true.

17 posted on 01/05/2007 7:28:30 AM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Why do American citizens have to have 40 quarters and they only have to have a short time?


18 posted on 01/05/2007 7:28:34 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Rudy 2008)
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To: 3AngelaD

Clinton had the World Court document. Thankfully, he had sense enough not to sign it and leave it for the next Admin to deal with.

I doubt Bush will leave this one for the next Admin. The only reason he hasn't already signed it is fear of a DubaiPorts-Miers-type of repercussion. On the night of January 19, 2009, he won't be too concerned about repercussions.


19 posted on 01/05/2007 7:28:52 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: FLOutdoorsman
OUTSTANDING!

I say we include everyone in Canada and Mexico!

Let's bankrupt the system sooner than later.

Once everyone has come to realize there is no way we are going to be able to fulfill the obligations as currently promised let alone adding more people, we can get on with the business of developing a system we can actually pay for!
20 posted on 01/05/2007 7:28:59 AM PST by SomeoneNeedsToSayIt
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