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New amnesty push likely in 07 by Bush, Dems
Marietta Daily Journal ^ | Wednesday, January 3 | D.A. King

Posted on 01/04/2007 5:32:40 AM PST by Mount Athos

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To: Just mythoughts
The liberal party pretended to be ALLLL about border security, remember when the House first passed that Border bill and the "I AM" Senator Clinton said about it, that IF the Republicans in the House could they would make Jesus illegal.

Yeah right, nancy pelosi was more strident than Tom Tancredo.

21 posted on 01/04/2007 6:11:35 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Mount Athos
According to a report released in late 2006 by the House Committee of Homeland Security,

up to 10 million people entered the United States illegally and un-inspected last year.





[They are rushing here to get in line for amnesty and Social Security benefits.]
22 posted on 01/04/2007 6:12:38 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Dane
The Berlin Wall worked pretty good as I recall. So did the chain link fence/mine field device used elsewhere ~ spent many months on "our side" of that barrier "watching" ~ and amazingly NO ONE tried to get over (except about a mile away and the guy lost major body parts).

Eventually we are going to have to UNDO the amnesty deals.

23 posted on 01/04/2007 6:17:18 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Dane
That open border allows most of the illegal drugs into the country. The "War on Drugs" is truly stupid on that front.

And what about the sex slave traffic that makes it across. It's documented. Wouldn't one girl not having to be forced to due that on American soil be enough to close that?
24 posted on 01/04/2007 6:17:38 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Southaven Mississippi Freeper)
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To: Youngman442002
BUT the politicians have our best interest at front and center.....and the children will be able to sleep well at night knowing what awaits them each day in a land no longer known as the land of the free, and the home of the brave.

Every politician will be able to stand before the American people and say (once all you mention becomes reality), "A new America for the children.....a nation based on lawlessness and full of hate for those who are citizens of the nation", but it will also be plenty of money in the pockets of those politicians so ..... there goes the excuse of once again .... "We loved the country into third world status for the children."

Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside....just knowing I (and all of the US citizens) have politicians in power who hate this nation. We will vote them all back into power as soon as the next election cycle comes round.

25 posted on 01/04/2007 6:18:51 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Dane
Nancy P did not run 'herself' as a national candidate, she kept herself hidden close to a month before the election.

However those 'selected' local candidates ran on an already well polled platform designed specifically for their districts. I bet half of Americans had NO clue who Nancy was or even who she is this day.

These that made their ill gotten gains off the backs of their cheap laborers are going to get a liberal cleaning, I can see the hearings now.
26 posted on 01/04/2007 6:19:07 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Sybeck1
Well heck we should all get on someone's bandwagon that wants to give the country to illegal criminal invaders.....
it's the right thing to do....according to our politicians
and they do know what is best for America and her citizens.
just listen to our politicians they will all tell us they know best..... (if this post needs a sarcasm tag, then you haven't been paying attention)
27 posted on 01/04/2007 6:22:36 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Dane

"If true then why did voters vote in nancy pelosi and the democrats and that 1/3 of the GOP of Tancredos's immigration caucus, lost."

Here you go Dane.

"More broadly, this was obviously a very bad year for Republicans, leading to the defeat of both enforcement supporters — like John Hostettler (career grade of A- from the pro-control lobbying group Americans for Better Immigration) and Charles Taylor (A) — as well as amnesty promoters, like Mike DeWine (D) and Lincoln Chafee (F). Likewise, the winners included both prominent hawks — Tancredo (A) and Bilbray (A+) — and doves — Lugar (D-), for instance, and probably Heather Wilson (D).

What’s more, if legalizing illegals is so widely supported by the electorate, how come no Democrats campaigned on it? Not all were as tough as Brad Ellsworth, the Indiana sheriff who defeated House Immigration Subcommittee Chairman Hostettler, or John Spratt of South Carolina, whose immigration web pages might as well have been written by Tom Tancredo. But even those nominally committed to “comprehensive” reform stressed enforcement as job one. And the national party’s “Six for 06” rip-off of the Contract with America said not a word about immigration reform, “comprehensive” or otherwise.

The only exception to this “Whatever you do, don’t mention the amnesty” approach appears to have been Jim Pederson, the Democrat who challenged Sen. Jon Kyl (a grade of B) by touting a Bush-McCain-Kennedy-style amnesty and foreign-worker program and even praised the 1986 amnesty, which pretty much everyone now agrees was a catastrophe.
Pederson lost."
Mark Krikorian, National Review, 11/9/2006


28 posted on 01/04/2007 6:24:56 AM PST by tumblindice (My moderate, tempered view? Declare war on Mexico.)
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To: TomGuy
According to a report released in late 2006 by the House Committee of Homeland Security,

up to 10 million people entered the United States illegally and un-inspected last year.

 
A must view
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=roy+beck&hl=en

29 posted on 01/04/2007 6:31:14 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Dane; TommyDale
****If true then why did voters vote in nancy pelosi and the democrats and that 1/3 of the GOP of Tancredos's immigration caucus, lost.****

Stop the Tancredo canard and LIES bonehead. FYI I've been saving this just for yooooooou.

The Great Illegal Immigration Myth of '06
HUMAN EVENTS, Dec 27, 2006

~~ snip ~~~ In other words, about 9.6% of the tough guys on illegal immigration lost, while 25% of the amnesty crowd went down to defeat. Along those same lines, these numbers from the same article seem to be rather compelling:

If being tough on illegal immigration is such a killer, then how can it be that the members of Tom Tancredo's Reform Caucus outperformed the rest of the House? The question answers itself.
So 'stick it' about Tancredo's 'loss' and go beat the slaves you have out in your field picking berries.
30 posted on 01/04/2007 6:35:53 AM PST by Condor51 (Mayor Daley (D-Chi) For POTUS . Really, why not? He's more conservative than Rudy! /s)
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To: Condor51

Nice post!


31 posted on 01/04/2007 6:38:53 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Dane
If true then why did voters vote in nancy pelosi and the democrats and that 1/3 of the GOP of Tancredos's immigration caucus, lost.

Two posters have shown this claim is a bald-faced lie. You need to stop making such.

32 posted on 01/04/2007 6:40:50 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: Just mythoughts; Dane
Do NOT believe Dane's LIES.

See post my post #30 and read the article linked to Human Events.

33 posted on 01/04/2007 6:42:51 AM PST by Condor51 (Mayor Daley (D-Chi) For POTUS . Really, why not? He's more conservative than Rudy! /s)
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To: TommyDale
Thanks. I can't take that ijit's outright LIES.
34 posted on 01/04/2007 6:45:22 AM PST by Condor51 (Mayor Daley (D-Chi) For POTUS . Really, why not? He's more conservative than Rudy! /s)
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To: dirtboy
The biggest door the election opened is comprehensive immigration reform, giving the Essential Worker Immigration Coalition, to which NRCA belongs, better prospects in the House for reform along the lines of President Bush's proposal. The election proved the one-dimensional hard-line approach to immigration espoused by House Republicans did not work, with almost one-third of the 31 Democrat House pickups coming from Rep. Tom Tancredo's (R-Colo.) anti-immigration caucus.

Excuse me, 1/3 of the democrat pickups came from Tancredo's immigration caucus.

The biggest door the election opened is comprehensive immigration reform, giving the Essential Worker Immigration Coalition, to which NRCA belongs, better prospects in the House for reform along the lines of President Bush's proposal. The election proved the one-dimensional hard-line approach to immigration espoused by House Republicans did not work, with almost one-third of the 31 Democrat House pickups coming from Rep. Tom Tancredo's (R-Colo.) anti-immigration caucus.

Link

35 posted on 01/04/2007 6:46:40 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Your link makes the claim but fails to document the details (surprise).

Whereas it has been documented on this thread from two different articles that the percentage of seats lost from Tancredo's immigration caucus was LOWER than the pro-amnesty bunch.

So someone is lying here. Please show details to back up your claim.

36 posted on 01/04/2007 6:49:07 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: stockpirate; Victoria Delsoul
What is worse is Bush knows and does nothing!

Dubya's longtime strategy is to do nothing. He lets his enemies run their mouths and he stands there, squinting, and clumsily repeating 2003 talking points years later. It doesn't matter that the strategy fails, it's what he knows best and he keeps on doing it.

I think he thinks it makes him seem above it all, but all it does is make him a long-term, unpopular president who probably won't get near a 45% approval rating for the rest of his term.

Awful. And his peanut gallery of enablers are mentalcases.

37 posted on 01/04/2007 6:49:17 AM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: dirtboy
Your link makes the claim but fails to document the details (surprise).

Well it pretty easy, the democrats gained 30 seats and 10 of those pickups came from Tancredo's caucus, including such big names as Hayworth and Hostettler who made immigration a big part of their campaigns.

38 posted on 01/04/2007 6:51:54 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: dirtboy
The fact is that Republicans got whacked across the board, and immigration issues failed to pull people one way or another.

Tancredo, Buchanan, and the small but vocal minority in the Republican party are NOT the holders of the key that will allow the Republicans to continue in office.

Most core voters were disgusted at the Republicans failure to comprehensively address the immigration debacle, along with their failure to address ANY issue with something more than cowardly sleaziness. This does not translate to an affirmation that the Republican party core is for slamming the door and expelling all illegals. There is a sizeable group of Republicans who would be perfectly happy to admit the whole crowd of illegals now, if we could devise some type of system to get them mainstreamed into our social order.

Shrieking "NO SHAMNESTY" is not going to get the Congress back for you.

39 posted on 01/04/2007 6:59:31 AM PST by DreamsofPolycarp
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To: Mount Athos

They will allow the illegals in so that the workers subsidize the social security system. The employers pay in for th0ose workers, but few of the illegals will claim benefits, so the system will receive a "premium" through all of the unpaid claims.

As always, follow the money.


40 posted on 01/04/2007 7:00:16 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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