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AR-15 rifles not needed to hunt [Barf Alert]
South Coast Today (Massachusetts) ^ | 1/2/07 | Bernard Roth

Posted on 01/02/2007 8:26:21 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

AR-15 rifles are not needed to hunt deer

Anyone needing an AR-15 or a Kalashnikov to hunt deer or elk probably needs a new pair of glasses first. Anyone needing an automatic shotgun to hunt pheasants, rabbits or partridge probably needs a prescription from a neurologist to reduce finger tremors or fight off tension.

I do not wish to change the constitutional amendment giving an organized militia the rights to bear arms, withdrawn from a carefully tended armory. The National Rifle Association has abandoned the parts of the amendment relating to "organized militia" and "tended armory." The NRA is NOT an organized militia, according to its charter.

I believe we should remember that the arms of 1789 were smoothbore Kentucky rifles and that discharge was accomplished by a flint-lock striking a steel, and sending a spark into some gunpowder that ignited the propellant and sent the bullet (or buckshot) on its wiggly way. This was a single shot device (or two shot, with two flint-locks and two barrels). Not even the "six-shooter" was invented at that time. My point is that single-shot weapons, with a long time to re-load, remove school and office massacres that can be caused by automatic weapons.

While it may take another few years to bring sanity to all of our states, I am sure that sanity can prevail in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and possibly even Rhode Island Plantations. If Nantucket does not approve, let them secede and we will cut off ferry service to them from our shores, and fill the sound with windmills.

All local deer will hold us dear.

BERNARD ROTH Dartmouth


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1 posted on 01/02/2007 8:26:22 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

It figures that this twit is from Massachusetts.


2 posted on 01/02/2007 8:28:29 AM PST by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I seem to be missing the words "organized militia" and "tended armory" in my copy of the Constitution.


3 posted on 01/02/2007 8:28:59 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: kiriath_jearim
* sigh *

One more pinhead trying to beat the long-dead horse of the meaning of "militia" in the 2nd Amendment.

Good grief, man. Even liberal judges have long since conceded that the 2nd Amendment really does mean that ordinary citizens have the right to their guns.

Find a more closely contested issue upon which to pontificate.

4 posted on 01/02/2007 8:29:43 AM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: palmer

Beat me to it. This guy really re-interprets the Constitution, doesn't he?


5 posted on 01/02/2007 8:30:08 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"My point is that single-shot weapons, with a long time to re-load, remove school and office massacres that can be caused by automatic weapons"

This guy hasn't spent much time in East LA, or Chicago's south side, or many other inner-city neighborhoods.

He's the kind of guy who would recommend taking a knife to a gunfight, I guess.

Non-criminals should all be dis-armed, in his estimation.

6 posted on 01/02/2007 8:30:43 AM PST by traditional1
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To: kiriath_jearim

This guy is majoring in minors and minoring in majors.


7 posted on 01/02/2007 8:31:26 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the Truth here Folks.)
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To: palmer
I seem to be missing the words "organized militia" and "tended armory" in my copy of the Constitution.

I'm sure he is referring to the "well-regulated militia". But you're right, this guy is just spouting off on a subject he knows nothing about.

8 posted on 01/02/2007 8:32:17 AM PST by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Liberalism 101: fit the facts to the agenda even if you have to make them up.


9 posted on 01/02/2007 8:32:30 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: kiriath_jearim

This idiot (okay, to be fair, I'll call him misinformed) is confusing hunting wild game with the real purpose of the 2nd Amendment. Plus, he has the militia thing all wrong.

Hunting with AR-15s is exactly what the 2A is about, and the prey are not deer and elk, but tyrants.


10 posted on 01/02/2007 8:32:48 AM PST by Disambiguator
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What does hunting have to do with the "security of a free state"? On the other hand, what does the People's Republic of Massachusetts have to do with a "free state" either?
11 posted on 01/02/2007 8:33:33 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Baker's Iraq Surrender Group - warming up the last helicopter out of Baghdad.)
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"I believe we should remember that the arms of 1789 were smoothbore Kentucky rifles..."

The definition of "rifle" precludes it from being a smoothbore.

12 posted on 01/02/2007 8:33:40 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: Kenton

I have read that "well-regulated" meant properly outfitted at the time the amendment was written.


13 posted on 01/02/2007 8:34:21 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: kiriath_jearim

So did Bernie write his letter with a 1789-style quill, on 1789-style parchment, and mail it to the paper via horseback??


14 posted on 01/02/2007 8:34:31 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"I believe we should remember that the arms of 1789 were smoothbore Kentucky rifles and that discharge was accomplished by a flint-lock striking a steel, and sending a spark into some gunpowder that ignited the propellant and sent the bullet (or buckshot) on its wiggly way. This was a single shot device (or two shot, with two flint-locks and two barrels). Not even the "six-shooter" was invented at that time."

Of course they intentionally overlook the fact that "single shot device" was the same or better than the ones carried by the Regular Army. Why it should be any different today, especially considering the intent of the amendment, is far beyond me.
15 posted on 01/02/2007 8:35:06 AM PST by FreedomHammer
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To: kiriath_jearim

Just another liberal twit alert!


16 posted on 01/02/2007 8:35:08 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Our troops are smart. It's our politicians who are stupid.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
In this authors opinion AR-15's may not be good for hunting but they do a heck of a job on old computers and monitors.
17 posted on 01/02/2007 8:35:36 AM PST by Kimmers (It's not what you take when you leave this world behind, it's what you leave behind when you go)
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"AR-15 rifles are not needed to hunt deer"

No, but here in Florida, they work great on wild pigs. I've used an old SP1 with 55gr soft points on hogs around here for thirty years now with great results. Plus there's no bluing to go all rusty in the first hour afield.

AR-15s are also good for shooting lots of other things. What those things are, I leave up to the reader to surmise.

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18 posted on 01/02/2007 8:36:06 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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19 posted on 01/02/2007 8:36:17 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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Anyone needing an automatic shotgun to hunt pheasants, rabbits or partridge probably needs a prescription from a neurologist to reduce finger tremors or fight off tension.

"Automatic shotgun?" Does anyone know where I can purchase one?

20 posted on 01/02/2007 8:38:23 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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