Preparing For The Biggest Experiment On Earth

Science Daily ^ | 12-17-2006

[unkus]

I'm glad that experiment will take place in France, NOT the USA

[dhuffman@awod.com]

See my tagline.

[Alter Kaker]

So France's economy gets high paying high tech jobs on the frontier of science? I'll never forgive Clinton for defunding the Superconductor Supercollider. Maybe U.S. workers can get jobs instead as curators in the new Museum of Creationism.

[LibWhacker]

When the particles smash into each other inside the CMS detector the high energy conditions created in these collisions will be similar to those that occurred in the first instants of the universe, immediately after the Big Bang.

When the laws of physics were laid down? Cool, we could use some more laws! ;-)

[ryan125]

The only way for this experiment to go wrong is for hawking to have wrongly predicted the decay rate of a black hole, which in my mind is highly possible but I'm not that smart of a person. If it did go wrong many stray particles could get sucked into this black hole where it would sink to the center of the earth and if the event horizon of the black hole got to be large enough for an atom to get sucked in the united states as well as France would be gone.

[unkus]

Sorry folks, I was just being playful. Hope it doesn't go awry.

[dcrider182]

k.. Can someone explain this to me in Rio Linda terms..??

Thanks
~Dean

[Sen Jack S. Fogbound]

I agree!

It was one of the most stupid decisions he made! Had the SuperCollider proceeded, there is no telling how much discoveries it would have made. Perhaps even the Fusion Reactor would be online now!

Forever the shame!

[chatham]

Would Ms. Clinton and Bill lan Lee, have still gotten the three Black Panthers, who poured Boiling Water over and then shot one of their brothers to death, out of prison who they thought was a squealer, if she knew then what she knows now.

[Sender]

You'll put your eye out with that thing kid.

[blam]

"If it did go wrong many stray particles could get sucked into this black hole where it would sink to the center of the earth and if the event horizon of the black hole got to be large enough for an atom to get sucked in the united states as well as France would be gone."

Yup. I expect we'll see protest marches next year in an attempt to stop this experiment.

[ryan125]

Alright If these scientists are wrong with their completely untested theory, we are all going to die. The equation for a black hole which is the size of an electron is (3 X 10^-15 meters) is that it has a duration of (t meaning time)T = 6.63 X 10^-107 seconds...which makes it impossible that the black hole could expand. The Event horizon means the point of a black hole where nothing can escape its gravitational pull, not even light. The event horizon is very very small compared to its actual mass, which is why unless mass becomes smaller than it is normally, a black hole can not exist. What they are trying to do is CREATE a black hole and measure how the paths are twisted by the magnet which would let them identify what the particle is and how many there are. Usual scientist thinking is they are allowed to do an experiment that has the risk of killing everyone on Earth even if that risk is very slight.

[ryan125]

i doubt they will have protest marches maybe a scientist will write an article on it and it will be on the news but anyone who understands this kind of stuff is probably too out of shape to go marching.

[RightWhale]

It has to be tough to have a clue what is going on with all these thousands of subatomic particles and 32 symmetry dimensions, but fortunately one of the lead physicists in the world has written a huge book that lays out all his mathematical secrets. It's a thousand pages and all math so far as I have read (250 of 1000 pages), but it's all there, put together and assembled. The Road to Reality by Roger Penrose. Whether it is the ultimate reality in a philosophical sense is doubtful, but it is where physics and cosmology are now.

[RightWhale]

Ditto on the SSC and raise the end of the Apollo moon landings. American science strangled in its prime.

[blam]

"i doubt they will have protest marches maybe a scientist will write an article on it and it will be on the news but anyone who understands this kind of stuff is probably too out of shape to go marching."

You don't have to be a scientist to understand this headline:

Scientists Plan Earth Ending Experiment

Scientists Gamble With All Life On Earth

etc.

[Raycpa]

[ryan125]

lol i know it was my poor attempt at a joke. I guess i would be better off saying chuck norris's crotch has an event horizon as it seems like a wonderful time to use that joke as we are already on the topic.

[Jack Black]

First off you seem to know WAY more about this than me.

But where is the whole "black hole" thing coming from? Isn't this a fairly conventional supercollider experiment where a bunch of junk going one way is smashed into a bunch of junk going the other way and then the bean counters watch the broken bits fly around? How would that have anything to do with creating a black hole? Aren't they (theoretically) made by huge amounts of mass being compressed into a single small point?