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There we go again... "Small steps Ellie, small steps"

1 posted on 12/15/2006 2:26:01 PM PST by mwilli20

It can be fixed by a firing squad.

32 posted on 12/15/2006 3:05:51 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)

If the needle prick is too painful, I guess the only way to fix it is by execution by JDAM. In that case I guarantee they won't feel a thing.

33 posted on 12/15/2006 3:09:02 PM PST by burzum (Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)

Insert shotgun into mouth, pointed at top of skull.

Pull trigger.

Instant death would not be a problem. Cleanup of the mess would.

34 posted on 12/15/2006 3:09:38 PM PST by Thud

judges like that only want their 5 minutes of fame, could care less what happens because of it

37 posted on 12/15/2006 3:10:26 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)

We need a complete overhaul of the judiciary. Judges ought not be able to make up the law to satisfy themselves.

38 posted on 12/15/2006 3:10:55 PM PST by Brilliant

This is the Judge. No surprise who nominated him.

Fogel, Jeremy D.

Born 1949 in San Francisco, CA

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Northern District of California
Nominated by William J. Clinton on September 8, 1997, to a seat vacated by Robert P. Aguilar; Confirmed by the Senate on March 16, 1998, and received commission on March 17, 1998.

41 posted on 12/15/2006 3:12:13 PM PST by Ramzi

"There we go again... "Small steps Ellie, small steps""

Let it be known that this a Bill Clinton-appointed federal judge who did this. Ugh. We should appeal the ruling. I hope they will. He's low on the food chain - take it right to SCOTUS, if necessary.

43 posted on 12/15/2006 3:20:57 PM PST by Princip. Conservative

The proof that this isn't cruel is that addicts take the same drugs. The only difference is dosage.

How stupid does this have to get before the public figures these people out?

45 posted on 12/15/2006 3:22:33 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: fight, submit, or die.)

Not to worry....Scott Peterson is on death row in Ca. Most hated man in America for some. There will be a DEMAND that he be executed.

48 posted on 12/15/2006 3:48:03 PM PST by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)

Maybe we should behead them instead. It seems to be the only executions that the lefties haven't whined about yet.

51 posted on 12/15/2006 4:18:53 PM PST by conservativegranny

To: mwilli20; All

Just to keep this in perspective, this case is about the jury ordered execution of Michael Morales for the murder of Terri Lynn Winchell.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/20/MNGV3HBONP1.DTL

Terri Lynn Winchell left home on the last night of her life in January 1981 to help a boy she knew hated her.

That's just the way she was, friends and family said. Good-hearted. A devout believer in turning the other cheek, in giving people a second chance.

But this was a chance she should not have given.

By the end of the evening, the 17-year-old church choir singer and high school beauty lay raped, hammered and stabbed to death, her corpse sprawled between two rows of grapevines.

She had no inkling of it, but she had been caught in the middle of a love triangle gone hideously bad. Her boyfriend, unbeknownst to her, had been involved in a gay relationship with another man -- whose jealousy drove him to recruit a street thug who would take Winchell out of the picture

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According to court testimony, Morales began plotting ways to kill Winchell, practicing how to strangle someone by wrapping a belt around a female roommate's neck and cranking it tight. Once he had the technique down, he waited for the call to action. It came on a Thursday, Jan. 8, 1981.

Ortega, pretending to want to ease tensions with Winchell, called her house around 5:30 p.m. as she was heading out the door to buy food for her mother, who was ill. He told her he wanted her help buying a gift at a local shopping center. Eager to mend fences, Winchell agreed to go, relatives testified.

Ortega picked her up around 6 p.m. In the back seat was Morales, with a claw hammer, a belt and a 7-inch kitchen knife hidden and ready. He was already stoned and agitated from guzzling cheap Thunderbird wine and smoking a PCP-laced cigarette.

As night fell and the Central Valley tule fog formed, Ortega drove his car out of Lodi along lonely Peltier Road. According to court records, they were a few miles out of town when Morales suddenly cinched his belt around Winchell's neck and began strangling her. She fought back fiercely. The belt broke, so he pulled out the hammer and began bashing her head.

"She screamed for Ortega to help and attempted to fight off the attack, ripping her own hair out of her scalp in the struggle," according to a state attorney general's account. Ortega ignored her pleas and as Morales told him to keep driving he smashed her 23 times in the head, crushing the base of her neck and bloodying her arms and hands as she tried to ward off the blows.

By the time Ortega pulled over at the corner of Bender and Peltier roads, 7 miles outside Lodi, Winchell was unconscious and slumped against the passenger door. According to investigators, Morales hopped out of the car, and saying it was a shame to waste "a good piece of ass," he told Ortega to leave the two of them, drive away and come back in 15 minutes.

Morales dragged the still-unconscious Winchell face-down across the road into a vineyard. There, in the chilly darkness, he stripped her of everything but her sweater and bra, which he pulled up to her neck. Then he flipped her onto her back and raped her in the dirt.

Just before he headed back to the road, he plunged his knife four times into her chest to make sure she was dead.

God Forbid he suffer from a lethal injection

52 posted on 12/15/2006 4:45:33 PM PST by txroadkill

Just use an N2 chamber. The squash gets hypoxic and "Night, night".

::::: no after-mess, cheap, nontoxic when released to atmosphere.

Don't he look natural?

57 posted on 12/15/2006 5:09:31 PM PST by Peelod (Decentia est fragilis. Curatoribus validis indiget.)

http://fox40.trb.com/news/ktxl-121506death%2C0%2C2055243.story?coll=ktxl-news-1

Attorneys for Morales alleged in a lawsuit that Morales might appear unconscious after being injected with a sedative, but internally he would succumb to excruciating pain, "burning veins and heart failure," once the paralyzing and the death drug were administered.

Morales, 47, of Stockton, raped and brutally beat a 17-year-old Lodi girl 25 years ago. Terri Winchell was found beaten and stabbed in a secluded vineyard.

Well that deserves repeating

Morales, 47, of Stockton, raped and brutally beat a 17-year-old Lodi girl 25 years ago. Terri Winchell was found beaten and stabbed in a secluded vineyard.

63 posted on 12/15/2006 5:26:39 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)

Here's the complete story from a source we don't have to excerpt, http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4405830.html

SAN FRANCISCO — A federal judge who imposed a moratorium on executions in California ruled Friday that the state's method of lethal injection is unconstitutional because it violates the ban on cruel and unusual punishment.
California's "implementation of lethal injection is broken, but it can be fixed," U.S. District Judge Jeremy Fogel said.
Fogel said the case raised the question of whether a three-drug cocktail administered by the San Quentin State Prison is so painful that it "offends" the Eighth Amendment ban on cruel and unusual punishment.
Fogel said he was compelled "to answer that question in the affirmative."
Fogel's decision came on the same day that Florida Gov. Jeb Bush suspended all executions in that state after a botched execution this week.
Lethal injection is the preferred execution method in 37 states. Last month, a federal judge declared unconstitutional Missouri's injection method, which is similar to California's.
The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld executions _ by hanging, firing squad, electric chair and gas chamber _ despite the pain they might cause, but has left unsettled the issue of whether the pain is unconstitutionally excessive.
California has been under a capital punishment moratorium since February, when Fogel called off the execution of rapist and murderer Michael Morales amid concerns that condemned inmates might suffer excruciating deaths.
Fogel found substantial evidence that the last six men executed at San Quentin might have been conscious because they were still breathing when lethal drugs were administered.
He ordered anesthesiologists to be on hand, or demanded that a licensed medical professional inject a large, fatal dose of a sedative instead of the additional paralyzing agent and heart-stopping drugs that are normally used. But no medical professional was willing to participate.
Attorneys for Morales alleged in a lawsuit that Morales might appear unconscious after being injected with a sedative, but internally he would suffer excruciating pain, "burning veins and heart failure," once the paralyzing and the death drug were administered.
Morales, 47, of Stockton, raped and brutally beat a 17-year-old Lodi girl 25 years ago.
California's death row is the nation's largest, with more than 650 inmates.

Another damned judge making law.

64 posted on 12/15/2006 5:28:57 PM PST by upchuck (What's done is done. And if we don't get our stuff together, it'll be done to us again in 2008!)

Bring this guy's "justice" back!

Vlad "Tepes" (the impailer) Dracula (1431 - 1476)

65 posted on 12/15/2006 5:29:59 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)

Nothing that can't get fixed with a bullet or better yet, an ecologically sound and re-usable rope.

70 posted on 12/15/2006 5:54:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for the truth will see the truth)

If the assclown is going to suffer eternal torment anyway, then what's wrong with giving him a little preview beforehand?

Judges. People who couldn't get elected otherwise.

78 posted on 12/15/2006 7:32:40 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)

Florida just announced opposition to death penalty too- Guess which states murdering maggots are going to flock to? http://sacredscoop.com

80 posted on 12/15/2006 9:40:08 PM PST by CottShop

To: All; mwilli20; Mia T

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Judge FOGEL =

Mentored by 9th Circuit Court Judge STEPHEN 'No Under God Pledge of Allegiance' REINHARDT

Judge REINHARDT =

Self-Admitted decades-long Friend of the CLINTONS

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/965415/posts

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83 posted on 12/15/2006 11:01:41 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)

Okay... How about dropping a 16 ton weight on them?

87 posted on 12/16/2006 12:11:52 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1

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