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Mugabe feted as nation fails
The Sunday Times ^ | December 10, 2006 | Christina Lamb

Posted on 12/10/2006 3:16:13 AM PST by MadIvan

ZIMBABWE has the highest inflation and lowest life expectancy in the world, not to mention the highest percentage of orphans. So desperate is the shortage of food that President Robert Mugabe’s own guards have been spotted shooting squirrels in Harare’s Botanical Gardens.

However, Mugabe, 82, may be rewarded by being made president for life at his party’s annual conference this week.

Among the main proposals to be discussed is postponing presidential elections from 2008 till 2010. But Didymus Mutasa, the powerful national security minister and secretary for administration in the ruling Zanu-PF party, said last week that Mugabe had done “so many wonderful things” for Zimbabwe that it was likely that delegates to the conference would appoint him for life.

“There is a realistic chance that someone among the delegates or one of the provinces could come up with a proposal that he remains the party’s presidential candidate until Amen,” said Mutasa.

“He has done so many wonderful things for this country and its majority population and he is not showing any signs of tiredness. So if it is raised, as I am sure it will be, why not?”

Among those “wonderful things” is turning the country from the breadbasket of southern Africa to a land so famished that there are now long queues at abattoirs to buy waste such as pigskin marked “not fit for human consumption”.

The last official figures issued in October put inflation at 1,070%. But the cost of living shot up by almost 50% last month, according to the Consumer Council of Zimbabwe. An urban family of six now requires Z$209,000 (£442) to meet its basic food, housing, transport and clothing needs for a month, way above the average wage of Z$50,000. So bad is the economic crisis that while people around the world are stocking up on treats for the festive season, Zimbabweans are staring at empty shelves.

“This will be the worst Christmas ever,” said Joyce Taravinga, a single mother in Mbare, one of many who lost their homes in the government’s slum demolition operation. She now has to live with relatives in an already overcrowded shack.

“It’s hard to imagine that we used to have meat and presents. This year it will be a bowl of sadza [maize porridge] and leaves.”

She is hoping to have saved enough from selling bananas to be able to flavour the food with “meat sawdust” — gristle and bone sold as dog food by the abattoir. “We are happy if we can afford dog food,” she said. “We have no dignity left.”

Even the government’s own information shows that living standards have dropped 150% in the past decade. A survey by the social welfare ministry revealed that between 1995 and 2003, more than 63% of rural people could not afford to meet basic food requirements, while the figure in urban areas was 53%. Since then the situation has got far worse.

The lack of nutrition is hastening so many Aids-related deaths that new figures from Unicef reveal that a quarter of Zimbabwe’s children — 1.6m — are now orphans.

“This number is growing,” said Dr Festo Kavishe, the Unicef representative in Zimbabwe. “HIV and Aids have dramatically increased children’s vulnerability in recent years to the point where Zimbabwe now has the highest percentage in the world of children who are orphans.”

Zimbabwe’s register office has suspended issuing identification cards, passports and other crucial documents to citizens as a shortage of foreign currency means that they are no longer able to import the necessary ink and paper.

Anyone who dares to complain about the situation risks being beaten or arrested. The government is also attempting to block access to outside media by confiscating shortwave radios in rural areas in a crackdown that started this month. Wind-up and solar-powered radios were distributed by non- governmental organisations to give people access to broadcasters such as the BBC.

According to Nelson Chamisa, spokesman for one faction of the opposition Movement for Democratic Change, its offices have been inundated with complaints from people who have had their radios seized.

Members of so-called listening clubs, which meet to listen to news on shared radios, have been threatened and told they are “selling out the country” by listening to “foreign” broadcasts.

“The government is becoming more and more paranoid,” said Lovemore Matombo, president of the Zimbabwe Congress of Trade Unions. “The more desperate they become, the more violent they get.”

However, he vowed: “We won’t be deterred. Everything is falling apart. The health system has collapsed. Hospitals have no drugs. People cannot afford school fees. There are power cuts all the time. We can no longer just wait.”

The congress has threatened protests in the new year if the government fails to meet demands to raise minimum wage levels, stop the arrest of street traders and provide life-prolonging anti-retroviral drugs to those living with HIV.

Despite the increased repression and ever worsening situation, there are moves within the European Union to avoid reimposing travel sanctions on Mugabe and his cohorts when they expire in February. France and Portugal are among the countries that no longer want sanctions.

Kathryn Llewellyn, campaign director for the London-based organisation Action for Southern Africa, which is lobbying MEPs, said: “If the EU sanctions drop we will be turning our backs on the millions of Zimbabweans suffering daily.”

Our tragedy, by a priest working in the slums of Harare

I do not know how people survive with more than 1,000% inflation. Just last month the mealie meal that everyone lives on went up 190% and last week bus fares went up 60%.

Murambatsvina (drive out the filth), Mugabe’s clean-up operation from last year, continues to take its toll: there are still homeless people in the suburb of Harare where I work. You find 20 or 30 people in a shack because people whose homes were demolished are squeezing in with friends and relatives.

Yesterday a widow, mother of five children, came to ask for help. She used to stay with her uncle. He has thrown them out onto the streets because he is afraid she might die on him, leaving him the five children. She is visibly sick with Aids.

No one outside government can be seen to be doing anything for the people. Just like food distribution: government wants to monopolise it and then give only aid to its known supporters.

The economic collapse destroys our culture and our humanity. It is so bad now that people give false names when they leave sick relatives in hospital. This is so they cannot be traced when the relative dies, because they cannot pay for the funeral. Their relatives receive a pauper’s burial in a mass grave.

Zimbabwe’s awful record

# 1.6m orphans — one in four Zimbabwean children — the world’s highest rate

# Average life expectancy: 34 for women, 37 for men, world’s lowest

# Inflation: 1070.2% (October), world's highest

# Minimum monthly budget for a family of six: Z$209,000 (£442)

# Average salary: Z$50,000 (£106)

# Budget deficit: 43% of GDP

# Unemployment 70%


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KEYWORDS: africawatch; economiccollapse; mugabe; zimbabwe
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Would someone care to tell me again why this is better than Imperial rule?

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 12/10/2006 3:16:16 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Texican; Watery Tart; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 12/10/2006 3:16:38 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
You stupid Brits sold out the Rhodesians and ended up starving the blacks to death. Sheer lunacy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 12/10/2006 3:20:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MadIvan

Africa's a sewer.


4 posted on 12/10/2006 3:20:59 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: goldstategop
Not our fault. We kept being told that the Africans had to run their own countries. Mugabe and his pals insisted on it. Well, here's the result.

Regards, Ivan

5 posted on 12/10/2006 3:22:19 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
Ah yes, the UK needed to do penance for forming one white-ruled country in South Africa back in 1910. In the 60s, it was just untenable for Labour's Harold Wilson to agree to a second white-ruled country, even if that meant a bright future for the blacks. Today, they have no future in their own land.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

6 posted on 12/10/2006 3:26:25 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MadIvan
Would someone care to tell me again why this is better than Imperial rule?

It's not. The whole world would be better off if it was still under your rule.

7 posted on 12/10/2006 3:26:44 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: BlessedBeGod

MadIvan used to rule the whole world? Wow. Go Ivan!


8 posted on 12/10/2006 3:49:42 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: jim35
MadIvan used to rule the whole world? Wow. Go Ivan!

I'm flattered...but a lot of people would be very unhappy if that was the case. :)

Regards, Ivan

9 posted on 12/10/2006 3:50:46 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
There must be a way Marxist beast Mugabe can be removed from power. It's inexcusable he remains.
10 posted on 12/10/2006 4:04:35 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: goldstategop

How is it the Brits fault the racist Mugabe confiscated the successful white owned farms and gave them to those who could not farm?


11 posted on 12/10/2006 4:06:17 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: MadIvan
We kept being told that the Africans had to run their own countries

That argument didn't work so well with y'all when the Irish, Scots, and Welsh tried it.

L

12 posted on 12/10/2006 4:09:13 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: MadIvan

This sure beats the hell out of Apartheid doesnt it?

No more white people feeding them, Its Great.

Mugabe and Mandela two of the genius's that took Africa into famine. One a hero ,the other President for Life. Where is Tutu the other genius that fought to get these guys put in charge. I bet he hasnt lost any weight.


13 posted on 12/10/2006 4:12:50 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Lurker

Rhodesia declared independence from the UK long before any of this took place.Jmma Carter had a hand in this by placing sanctions on the Rhodies.No I'm not british,my wife is a Rhodie.


14 posted on 12/10/2006 4:31:26 AM PST by JOHANNES801 (I have no tag line, cause I say nasty things.)
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To: JOHANNES801; MadIvan
I know, I know.

The world is going to be feeling the ill effects of that blithering idiot Carter for generations.

The world is still paying in blood for dismantling the British Empire. Say what you like about the Brits, but they knew how to set up stable colonial governments and make 'em stick for the most part.

The smart thing to do would have been to let us kick the crap out of the thugs running Iraq and then let the Foreign Office hands in to set things up and get them running.

It's amazing when you think about it. The four most succesful nations on the planet have nearly one thing in common. Namely a legacy of British colonial rule.

The US.

Canada

Australia

and Great Britain herself.

With any luck India will be along shortly. I hope so anyway. The world could use another stable democracy of nearly a billion hard working industrious educable people. We have largely the Brits to thank for that.

Not a bad legacy if you ask me. I know they weren't perfect and I was just joshing with Ivan about Ireland and Scotland.

I pray a lot for Britain. She's been a steadfast ally of ours for over a hundred years. Britain will muddle through whatever problems she has now. She always has.

Regards to both,

L

15 posted on 12/10/2006 4:43:11 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: MadIvan

There are leftists around the world who will see the abject failure of Zimbabwe and learn nothing from it. They will probably conclude that Mugabe was not ruthless enough and they will vow that when they get into power they will show the world how to make communism really work.


16 posted on 12/10/2006 4:50:17 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: goldstategop
You stupid Brits sold out the Rhodesians and ended up starving the blacks to death. Sheer lunacy.

Unfortunatley, we stupid Yanks helped them through our incredible daft President Carter.

The man was only in office 4 years, how did he manage to do such harm?

17 posted on 12/10/2006 4:57:20 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

Mugabe is feted or fetid?

In any case, if he ran for office in Rep William Jefferson's district, I guess the dolts who live there would elect Mugabe too.


18 posted on 12/10/2006 5:01:47 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: goldstategop

"Jimmah Brainfart Catah" was the ringleader in selling out Rhodesia.


19 posted on 12/10/2006 5:09:54 AM PST by sidegunner
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To: sgtbono2002
Mugabe and Mandela two of the genius's that took Africa into famine. One a hero ,the other President for Life. Where is Tutu the other genius that fought to get these guys put in charge. I bet he hasnt lost any weight.

It is sick that the U.S. Congress gave Mandela a standing ovation. They did not care what he stood for, they were just clapping for a black guy. The same mentality drives the myth of MLK, a Marxist who cheated on his wife. What ever these black leaders do, it does not mater, because to question their divinity is racist.

20 posted on 12/10/2006 5:11:20 AM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: MadIvan

I think Mugabe rates a spot on the Iraq Support Group. How could Baker and Hamilton have left him off? What an insulting oversight!


21 posted on 12/10/2006 5:31:42 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: MadIvan; All
For THIS particular tragedy you can thank Jimmy Carter and Andrew Young.
They were the moving force that transformed a vibrant and self sustaining, wealthy, "breadbasket of Africa" Rhodesia into Zimbabwe, in less than the time it takes to lower even further, the livability quality of an urban "transitional" neighborhood in our coastal states.
Not everyone can turn gold into crap. It takes a dedicated Democrat with assistance from the UN.
Thanks Jimmy. Thank Andy. Ya' done good! /s
22 posted on 12/10/2006 5:59:00 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Lagavulin, early in the day.)
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To: Manic_Episode; All
Consider. If the UK and the US had decided that Rhodesia was the place to challenge the USSR in Africa, and their client terrorist groups; and provided full military support to Ian Smith, in the form of modern aircraft, helicopters, equipment and medical support services as well as interdiction of ships docking at ports bringing equipment to the insurgent groups, the situation today would have been very different for the poor schmucks trying to eke out a survival existence under the rule of that destructive ignorant savage Mugabe.

The quality of the Rhodesian military was quite high and if sanctions against the nation had not depleted their economic resources and morale; knowing that the "world" was against them, and with minimum support, could/would have sent the communist supported Afrotrash back into the bush to starve.

The US and UK are now reprising their "success" in doing the same thing with South Africa; another nation heading downhill at a shocking rate of speed.
23 posted on 12/10/2006 6:12:00 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Lagavulin, early in the day.)
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To: MadIvan

"Mugabe and his pals insisted on it. Well, here's the result."

Exactly right.

They got what they paid for.


24 posted on 12/10/2006 6:14:22 AM PST by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: Mark was here
It is sick that the U.S. Congress gave Mandela a standing ovation. They did not care what he stood for, they were just clapping for a black guy. The same mentality drives the myth of MLK, a Marxist who cheated on his wife. What ever these black leaders do, it does not mater, because to question their divinity is racist.

You have a point, but I would have to disagree about MLK. He wasn't perfect but he did change the country for the better. The problem is that the so called "black leaders" of today practically worship him but don't seem to emulate him. Just like you said, they were just clapping for a black guy, just like every street in this country that honors MLK is a living nighmare because its all just for show and no action behind it. There the problem is apparent, just being "black and proud" becomes good enough and the concept of merit, hardwork, enginunity, patience, humbleness, and moderation become secondary to pride, simplicity, medicority, overly and dependent communalism and tribalism, and entitleship.

It's to a point now were people who really want to see change in Africa or in the black community in the US are condemned as insensitive and racist if they raise reasonable questions about competence, progress, conditions in the black communities here or in Africa

25 posted on 12/10/2006 6:16:39 AM PST by KingArthur305
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To: MadIvan

Maybe the U.N. will do something. /sarc


26 posted on 12/10/2006 6:19:35 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: MadIvan
# Unemployment 70%

I thought inflation was caused by low unemployment. That's what central bankers keep telling us.

27 posted on 12/10/2006 6:19:50 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: MadIvan
Even the government’s own information shows that living standards have dropped 150% in the past decade.

I think I see the problem.

28 posted on 12/10/2006 6:23:09 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: BlessedBeGod
"It's not. The whole world would be better off if it was still under your rule."

Even the US?? I think not.

29 posted on 12/10/2006 6:27:49 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: SoftballMominVA
"The man was only in office 4 years, how did he manage to do such harm?"

Great talent (as an incompetent).

30 posted on 12/10/2006 6:29:46 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: MadIvan

"Paging Bono"! "Paging Bob Geldof"! "Please report to Intensive Care".


31 posted on 12/10/2006 6:37:52 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Lurker

Don't know about Canada and Australia but the American colonies didn't get much more from Britain than Royal charters, transported criminals and indentured laborers for the first hundred odd years.
The great legacy of the Common Law, a common civilization and the most determinedly free thinking members of 17th century English society is another matter...one of the main points of the War of Independence was that after leaving the American colonies to sink or swim on their own until the Seven Year's War the Crown now sought to use them as a tax cash cow.
The biggest benefit to America of British suzerainty (sp?) was being neglected and allowed to develop our own institutions and a 150 year tradition of self-rule, self reliance and self defense.
Massachusetts colony took the great French fortress of Louisbourg pretty much by herself in the Seven year's War and was able to put 20.000 men in the field in one day in April of 1775.


32 posted on 12/10/2006 6:40:18 AM PST by skepsel
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To: Wilhelm Tell
There are leftists around the world who will see the abject failure of Zimbabwe and learn nothing from it

They will avert their eyes and pretend it doesn't exist, just as they did with the Cambodian blooodbath. When Mugabe started to cash the checks he had been writing for a generation about screwing the White population, The Lutheran, magazine of the ELCA, printed stories about how the poor Zims were suffering from the effects of drought, and began to drum up support for hunger relief, as if they were saving yet another bunch of poor but virtuous victims of the weather. That lie is no longer possible even for Lutheran muckymucks to sustain, so now they never print a word about Zimbabwe, or its weather, at all. Through-out though, they never once criticized the Mugabe regime.

Lately however they have been wondering out loud why their membership loss has been accelerating.

33 posted on 12/10/2006 6:44:47 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: skepsel
transported criminals and indentured laborers for the first hundred odd years.

As I like to tell folks I meet from foreign lands: "Our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country on the planet. Now if we wished could could eat those countries for breakfast and crap 'em out before lunch. Not bad for a bunch of lowlifes."

The great legacy of the Common Law, a common civilization and the most determinedly free thinking members of 17th century English society is another matter

You made the point far better than I did. I thank you for that.

Have a pleasant day.

L

34 posted on 12/10/2006 6:48:54 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: SoftballMominVA



Many people do not remember that Sierra Leone was beautiful and very well run place under colonial rule.

Mugabe's own personal country cannot last very long, a pity that so many have to suffer as it collapses though.


35 posted on 12/10/2006 7:09:39 AM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: MadIvan
Everyone keeps talking about the poor blacks. What about the whites, many of whom were hard working and not particularly wealthy by US standards? They fought as hard as the Israelis or Marines during their Bush War, they lost everything as Britain sold them out, they had to emigrate with nothing and were even treated as criminals abroad.

Who compensates them for their emotional and financial losses? Who will give them back their rightful property and homeland?
36 posted on 12/10/2006 7:15:34 AM PST by seppel
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To: MadIvan
Can someone give a prediction on when cannibalism will begin?

Dog food and leaves may fill a belly for a bit. But, when the whole structure of a society disintegrates, there are no moral prohibitions.

Nice work, oh you Liberal meddlers. You've killed thousands upon thousands again with your grandiose ideas.

37 posted on 12/10/2006 7:21:08 AM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Tutu looks mighty fat and juicy.

He might not last long on the streets of Zimbabwe. Especially if someone has a few tires lying around and a case of Mrs. Dash.

38 posted on 12/10/2006 7:30:58 AM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Thumper1960
Members of so-called listening clubs, which meet to listen to news on shared radios, have been threatened and told they are “selling out the country” by listening to “foreign” broadcasts

Pride is their tormentor. The kicking out of the white farmers may have contributed to this pride because of the illusion that all whites are their to exploit. "No matter what we do we have reason to be proud because we are Zimbabwean" is their mantra. If I were them I would be praying for the Chinese to set up colony in the country.

39 posted on 12/10/2006 7:41:54 AM PST by KingArthur305
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To: KingArthur305
Which may very well happen
The Chinese are very active in parts of Africa and sufficiently organized and ruthless for a take over
40 posted on 12/10/2006 8:18:45 AM PST by 1903A3
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To: hinckley buzzard

It is funny how failed communist regimes are always suffering from "bad weather." A country once might have been self-sufficient or even exported food. Then it falls under communism and everyone starves for years, fat American leftists will say, "oh, country X had bad weather again."


41 posted on 12/10/2006 8:23:10 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: MadIvan

Democracy and free markets and law and order WORK (check any country that has tried it.)

Dictatorship and marxism and totalitarism and no laws FAIL (check any country that has tried it.)


42 posted on 12/10/2006 8:28:26 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: MadIvan
Would someone care to tell me again why this is better than Imperial rule?

Regards, Ivan

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Because it's a Marxist utopia.

Now say anything else that implies disrespect of a Marxist utopia ever again and you're taking a one-way trip to the basement.

Seriously, Ivan, doesn't this resemble every other Marxist utopia? North Korea, Cambodia, Cuba, Maoist China, etc. ad nauseam.
43 posted on 12/10/2006 8:44:14 AM PST by Cheburashka ( World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: MadIvan

Mugabe's Zimbabwe is socialism revealed - North Korea and Cambodia were not aberrations, but rather the vision completed.

In that completion, we can see the dark truth at the heart of all socialist schemes - that, if necessary, the people must be sacrificed in their millions for the state.

In the event, this sacrifice is always necessary, for as my tagline advises, "Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism."

Mass death is the whole point of socialism. What I call 'The Jonestown State' is the dominant political model of our time but obviously it has no long-term future.


44 posted on 12/10/2006 8:59:05 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: MadIvan

bkarmk


45 posted on 12/10/2006 9:30:50 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/optimism_nov8th.htm)
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To: MadIvan

By Jove! This is a veritable paradise on earth! Far, FAR better than the other earthly paradise of North Korea. Mugabe should be proud of his great work.

For Mugabe does nothing but work effortlessly to ensure his people live in a manner that he, himself, would want to live.

:-P

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Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to see a vast uptick in emigration from Zimbabwe to North Korea... as North Korea actually sound somewhat better than Mugabe's little hellhole.


46 posted on 12/10/2006 9:36:48 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Republicans only win if they are conservative. Woe befalls any who forget that.)
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To: M. Espinola

It's called a "MOAB dropped upon their legislative building while they are in-session receiving a speech delivered by Mugabe himself".


47 posted on 12/10/2006 9:39:20 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Republicans only win if they are conservative. Woe befalls any who forget that.)
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To: MadIvan
Zimbabwe is, for the cold-hearted, a case study in several political areas that promise to figure larger, not smaller, in our immediate future. One is the ability of a police state to maintain a fantastically parasitic elite in power. Another is the systematic ruination of an economy by those whose expertise is in theft and redistribution rather than in actually how to run it. A third is the degree to which tribal politics may divorce its temporary beneficiaries from their own long-term interests.

Not a one of these is restricted to Zimbabwe, or to Africa, or for that matter to undeveloped nations. We see shades of all three operating in American and European politics every day. And it looks to me in darker moments as if they're gaining on us.

48 posted on 12/10/2006 10:16:40 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: RightOnline
"Africa's a sewer."

Africa has achieved EXACTLY what Africans and the ignorant bastards of the Left DEMANDED..

- Home (black)Rule
- Confiscation of white owned/developed property
- One man, one vote.
- Majority Rule (democracy)

The only problem with those lofty cute sounding idealist goals, is that most Africans are too tribal oriented, corrupt, uneducated, disorganized and ill prepared to deal with the hard realities of the modern global arena with at least one foot firmly planted in the bronze age..

Many Africans are now reaping what they themselves sowed, but many are suffering as a result of the horrible colonial practices of several nations - who raped the country and left abruptly ...Specifically France, Great Britain and Belgium.

Semper Fi

49 posted on 12/10/2006 10:31:35 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: MadIvan
"Would someone care to tell me again why this is better than Imperial rule?"
"Better"- for whom? What empire would want to burden itself with such a basket case? If anything, they better be presented [as a millstone on the neck] to, say, the Chinese.
50 posted on 12/10/2006 10:42:24 AM PST by GSlob
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