Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Honey, I Shrunk the GOP - George Pataki's legacy: ebbing fortunes for party and state.
Wall Street Journal ^ | November 30, 2006 | VINCENT J. CANNATO

Posted on 11/30/2006 10:36:09 AM PST by neverdem

ALBANY, N.Y.--The recent midterm election was bad news for Republicans, but it was even worse for New York Republicans. The GOP lost all three statewide offices by wide margins; its gubernatorial candidate did not even break 30%. Its sacrificial lamb for Senate did only slightly better, and representation in the state's 29-seat congressional delegation fell from nine to six seats. The most prominent state Republican is New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a former Democrat who, shall we say, wears his party affiliation lightly.

What a contrast with 1994, when George Pataki, a little-known Republican legislator, defeated three-term incumbent Gov. Mario Cuomo, one of the nation's leading liberal voices. Mr. Pataki, a social moderate and a fiscal conservative, rode into office on that year's Republican wave.

New York City's first Republican mayor in 30 years, Rudolph Giuliani, had strangely endorsed and campaigned for Mr. Cuomo. At the time, the move looked like political suicide. It is 12 years later and both Messrs. Giuliani and Pataki are making noises about running for president. Given the events of 1994, it is hard to believe that Mr. Giuliani is leading in some polls for the Republican nomination, while Mr. Pataki's ambitions are stuck in the low single digits.

What happened? In many ways, the open pit in Lower Manhattan is a depressing symbol of the Pataki years: That five years after 9/11 Ground Zero is still unbuilt is a sad testament to the political paralysis currently afflicting New...

--snip--

Since 1990, a weak upstate economy has meant a decline of more than 25% in the population of 25- to 34-year-olds, as young, educated people flee for the South and West.

--snip--

The party's future political success will depend on how its members reconcile their attitudes toward government with their desire to stay in office.

(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: darockefellers; georgepataki; gop; liberals; newyork; rinos
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-45 next last

1 posted on 11/30/2006 10:36:15 AM PST by neverdem
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: neverdem

NY, CA, MI, and NJ are pretty good examples of why we don't want a one party state.


2 posted on 11/30/2006 10:37:45 AM PST by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

There are so many nearly all Democrat states now. Those you mentioned, and the long-term prospects are not that bright in VA, CO, AZ, IA, and AR either.


3 posted on 11/30/2006 10:39:08 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

NY, CA, MI, and NJ are pretty good examples of why we don't want a one party state.
------
Amen.


4 posted on 11/30/2006 10:39:18 AM PST by EagleUSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

I blame Joe Bruno in part for this mess - he votes and acts like a lib and has betrayed the GOP. Pataki is finished. Under his "leadership" we have lost Nassau County and Westchester. Giuliani did nothing to build the GOP in NYC and he should have run against Spitzer to stop him.


5 posted on 11/30/2006 10:39:31 AM PST by juliej
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

MA... best reason of all.


6 posted on 11/30/2006 10:40:18 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

"Since 1990, a weak upstate economy has meant a decline of more than 25% in the population of 25- to 34-year-olds, as young, educated people flee for the South and West."

I fled upstate for VA in the mid-90s when I was 29, so I'm living testiment to that.

Soon-to-be-former U.S. Rep. Sue Kelly (R-NY) told me a few months ago that Pataki has driven the party and the state into the ground and what he hadn't already destroyed, Spitzer would in the next 4 years.


7 posted on 11/30/2006 10:40:20 AM PST by ReagansRaiders (DRAFT STEVE FORBES '08)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
The New York Republicans were Rockefeller liberals. The party is now moribund since Da Rockefellers have become Democrats. I expect the rest of the state's GOP to be swallowed up shortly by the Dems.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

8 posted on 11/30/2006 10:40:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
9 posted on 11/30/2006 10:52:46 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Theodore R.
Oregon is now a one party state. The GOP doesn't have majority in either house, probably can't even mount a fillibuster in the State Senate. (Not sure if the rules permit that charming tradition). The Gov just re-elected is part of the Dem Machine that has run the state for 30 years.

On the one hand we know who to blame if things don't go right. On the other hand ... it's depressing to see the whole state go Socialist.

10 posted on 11/30/2006 10:59:24 AM PST by Jack Black
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Isn't his quest to be pres to blame for all this?


11 posted on 11/30/2006 11:05:19 AM PST by Miss Didi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jack Black
I have no idea why Konguloski, or however you spell his name, got elected. Didn't the Oregonian endorse his opponent?
12 posted on 11/30/2006 11:08:52 AM PST by Aria (Terri: Do not ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for theeii)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

I love the title! I am amazed that george thinks he can win the gop nomination. He is about conservative as hillary.


13 posted on 11/30/2006 11:09:19 AM PST by Citizen Soldier
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ReagansRaiders
Soon-to-be-former U.S. Rep. Sue Kelly (R-NY) told me a few months ago that Pataki has driven the party and the state into the ground and what he hadn't already destroyed, Spitzer would in the next 4 years.

Inter-party canibalism and finger pointing rarely attracts voters.

14 posted on 11/30/2006 11:10:14 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Realism
New York's last Republicans should just wind up their affairs. If they aren't going to be conservative, there's no real point to their existence if you can get the real thing in a Democrat.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

15 posted on 11/30/2006 11:12:10 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Miss Didi

I think it was more like his quest to put all his cronies into $100,000+ patronage positions.


16 posted on 11/30/2006 11:13:41 AM PST by printhead
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant
NY, CA, MI, and NJ are pretty good examples of why we don't want a one party state.

Michigan isn't a one party state. The Pubbies just lost the State House, but until then controlled both houses of the State Leg as well as the governorship until 2002.

17 posted on 11/30/2006 11:16:34 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Miss Didi

He joined the dark side during his quest for a second term. He gave every municipal union everything they wanted (in particular the health care workers under Dennis Rivera) in return for their endorsements even though every poll had him way ahead without them. It went all downhill from there.


18 posted on 11/30/2006 11:19:08 AM PST by printhead
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Alter Kaker
The RINOs in MI got slaughtered. The GOP is left without real party organization in much of the country because it doesn't have a conservative pool of talent there to create a viable conservative alternative to the Democrats. The rot was apparent for some time. What happened was this election brought it out into the open for all to see. It ain't a pretty sight.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

19 posted on 11/30/2006 11:19:33 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: johnny7
MA... best reason of all.

In Massachusetts, the Republican Party is now significantly smaller (in terms of number of seats contested in the legislature) than the Green-Rainbow Party. The Democrats now control every state legislature in New England and 21 out of 22 New England U.S. House Seats (the 22nd, Chris Shays, is essentially a Democrat and is still in perpetual trouble). Republicans do still have 4 RINO Senators from New England -- Sununu, Gregg, Snowe and Collins, but that's temporary. Sununu and Collins are in big trouble in 2008. The Dems like to moan about losing the South -- when they now control New England much more closely than the Pubbies ever have had the South. I'm not aware -- except in the Jim Crowe period in the Rat-dominated South -- of any one party ever having as much domination in any one region.

20 posted on 11/30/2006 11:25:55 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-45 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson