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Who's Being Naive Now, Jed?
Team America PAC ^ | 11/29/2006

Posted on 11/29/2006 9:35:10 PM PST by NapkinUser

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To: JSteff

Right you are.


61 posted on 11/30/2006 8:58:14 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: MassachusettsGOP
Should he have said such a statement in a crucial voting area for Republicans in Florida, Absolutely Not.

Is there an election happening currently??

Are you saying no one is allowed to criticize any city with the truth because it might offend someone? A lot of the same people who did nothing but curse NOLA now defend Miami. Curious.

62 posted on 11/30/2006 9:24:24 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: GregH
Tancredo dont seem to mind,it is only Spanish that is bothering Tancredo. It has nothing to do with the issue of illegal immigration.

Is it Tancredos fault that the MAJORITY of illegal aliens are SPANISH SPEAKERS??? NO, it's the fault of people like you and JEB and George Bush who refuse to stop this lopsided invasion with your disgusting racism charges.

63 posted on 11/30/2006 9:33:47 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: BiffBonko; TonyRo76; NapkinUser; EagleUSA

Miami is just a bastion of virtue!! And it looks like Miami has an illegal alien Cuban problem. It's even a "sanctuary city".

Immigration and the Alien Gang Epidemic: Problems and Solutions

In September, 2003, the Miami police arrested a Honduran visa violator for seven vicious rapes. The previous year, Miami cops had had the suspect in custody for lewd and lascivious molestation. Pursuant to Miami’s sanctuary law, however, the police had never checked his immigration status. Had they done so, they would have discovered his deportable status, and could have forestalled the rapes.

The Miami Police Department will join with ICE only on high-level gang cases.

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mac_donald04-13-05.htm
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From the book, "The Reapers Line" from an account of justice--and injustice--on the Mexican border by a retired U.S. Customs special agent


"Douglas and Cochise County are one of the main pipelines for drugs coming into the U.S., second only to Miami."
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Currents/Content?oid=88713
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Gonzalez-Hernandez, 38, and Noel Lopez, 32, were arrested on Aug. 15 aboard a 25-foot boat after 20 Cuban nationals, including a pregnant woman and a 1-year-old boy, came ashore at the north end of the Judge S.S. Jolley Bridge at Marco Island.

They are charged with conspiracy to bring aliens into the United States. A subsequent indictment on Sept. 13 charged the men with "knowingly and willfully" bringing illegal aliens into the U.S.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2006/nov/13/judge_deny_request_cuban_smuggler/?latest
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Sports agent indicted in smuggling scheme for Cuban baseball players

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15895990.htm
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Two leaders of a nationwide employee-leasing conspiracy, that leased out hundreds of illegal aliens throughout the United States, pleaded guilty before US District Judge Kenneth Marra in the Southern District of Florida, while a third defendant was sentenced, according to the US Justice Department.

"In using illegal aliens to generate their profits, the defendants not only took advantage of these individuals, but also potentially compromised the safety of our citizens," he added.

"In this case, the defendants laundered roughly $20 million and failed to pay $6 million in taxes as part of this illegal employee leasing scheme," said Julie Myers, Department of Homeland Assistant Secretary for Immigration and Customs Enforcement.


http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=13603
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The unions love the illegal aliens in Florida!

IMMIGRANTS IN FLORIDA
Unions want to bring illegal immigrants into fold


That 180-degree shift in strategy provides a wealth of recruitment potential in bellwether states like Florida. Only about 6 percent of the Sunshine State's total work force is unionized. Only 2 percent of its all-important construction industry is organized compared with 13 percent nationwide.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060719/BUSINESS/

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200 Haitians Scramble From Boat in Florida

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C02E0DE133FF933A05753C1A9649C8B63&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fI%2fIllegal%20Immigrants

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Hundreds of Haitian Illegal Aliens Invade Miami
MIAMI – An estimated 200 Haitian illegal aliens aboard a 50-foot coastal freighter jumped into Biscayne Bay and waded ashore Tuesday on the Rickenbacker ...
www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/10/29/180422.shtml


64 posted on 11/30/2006 10:45:03 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: MassachusettsGOP

"Should he have said such a statement in a crucial voting area for Republicans in Florida, Absolutely Not."

Oh yeah, let's worry about the elections NOW!!! Where was your voice when Bush was shoving CIR down the throats of the American people, REFUSING to effectively secure our borders, and DIVIDING the entire Republican party, risking and thereby LOSING MAJORITY, IN A CRITICAL ELECTION YEAR?????

As a Republican who's lived in Florida, I would have welcomed and celebrated the voice of any Republican candidate who spoke the truth and was willing to do everything in his power to secure our borders and prevent Bush's plan for shamnesty. The future of our country depends on it.


65 posted on 11/30/2006 10:48:27 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: NapkinUser
Jed? Oh, he means *Jeb* Bush but doesn't know the name of the governor of Florida, one of the more important states in presidential politics. What a moron this Tancredo fellow is. If he's is still thinking about a presidential run, I suggest this motto: Tancredo! Like Buchanan only stupider!
66 posted on 11/30/2006 11:04:17 AM PST by edsheppa
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To: steel_resolve

"For some reason there has been an enormous backlash against Tancredo on FR lately. I can't really figure it out, but alot of it has been nasty to the extreme. I may or may not agree with what he has to say, but the invective flowing his way is shocking to say the least."

It isn't 'enormous' really. Just take note that its the same group of freepers who attack anyone, including fellow freepers, who disagrees with Bush policy. Tancredo is just the newest addition to the hate list...though until recently, even I was unaware of the extremes some have gone to. I've read posts on here by freepers who won't even watch fox news or listen to Rush anymore, because they no longer listen to anyone who doesn't agree with Bush. It's all in this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1746122/posts

And we who have been deemed the 'single issue' voters, are being 'prayed for' here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1746320/posts


An interesting read, from a psychological standpoint, though I do suggest that if you chose to risk posting, you do so, 'in like'. Nothing else will be tolerated.


67 posted on 11/30/2006 11:18:34 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: GregH
Legal? or people who arrived on our shores and were granted legal asylum?
68 posted on 11/30/2006 11:21:32 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Concerned

"Bush's problem is that he does NOT support the Party Platform."



"Our biggest challenge will be TO SEPARATE my uncle from the rest of the Republican Party."

“‘This is a President who represents the diversity of our society, who we can count on TO CHANGE the Republican Party TO REPRESENT OUR VIEWS.’" … He told the rally his mother had instilled him the values of Cesar Chavez, the Chicano activist who fought for the rights of migrant farmworkers in the United States. ‘She told me we have to fight for our race, WE HAVE TO FIND THE LEADERS WHO REPRESENT US,’ he said in fluent Spanish.’

George P. Bush


69 posted on 11/30/2006 11:25:37 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: BiffBonko
This from a person who only signed up on FR today?

This isn't a racist issue, it's about America deciding who can immigrate here based on our need, not the need of the person trying to get in here.

Granted some seem to think bringing in millions of people who are illiterate will improve our country; I think bringing in people who are educated, and want to contribute to our society, would make a much better contribution.

70 posted on 11/30/2006 11:27:12 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Ding, ding.. we have a winner. Immigrate here, but conform to us not vis-versa. This applies not only to Hispanic immigrants, but to Muslim as well.


71 posted on 11/30/2006 11:29:26 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn; NapkinUser; All

Poll time!

http://www.nbc6.net/news/10424626/detail.html

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colorado, is pointing to Miami as an example of what he calls uncontrolled immigration. World Net Daily quotes Tancredo as saying, "Look at what has happened to Miami. It has become a third world country. You just pick it up and take it and move it someplace, you would never know you're in the United States of America." What do you think about the comments?

Choice Votes Percentage of 1659 Votes

I agree with him. 1215 73%


72 posted on 11/30/2006 12:35:53 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

We do need to do a better job of enforcing our immigration laws, but that is about the only thing Tancredo is right about on this issue. Calling Miami a third-world country is an absurd statement considering Miami is one of the wealthier cities in America and has a better economy than any of Colorado's cities. Tancredo may also want to go out an meet some Cuban-American immigrants, and then you can make judgements about whether or not they contribute to American society. If he did he may be surprised to learn that they are as pro-business and as motivated to succeed and contribute as much as any other American ethnic group.

Tancredo's comments are similar to John Kerry's comments in the sense that they show a complete lack of judgement and political astuteness. First of all, you don't call an American city a third-world country if you want to be President. His lack of judgement is even more apparent because the people he primarily insulted are Cubans, who are a huge Republican voting block in a state that Republicans need in order to win any Presidential election.


Tancredo may want to go to Detroit or Richmond to see what areas in the United States actually have some problems. He may be shocked to see that the problems in these places are not caused by people who speak Spanish.


73 posted on 11/30/2006 12:46:08 PM PST by BiffBonko
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To: Kimberly GG

I don't like Bush's Amnesty one bit, but we have to go about Immigration Reform in a smart manner. Tancredo gets it, but he doesn't win any supporters but making excessively blunt statements such as this.


74 posted on 11/30/2006 3:07:05 PM PST by MassachusettsGOP (May the West and Republicans Always Win...)
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