Posted on 11/28/2006 10:11:14 AM PST by steve-b
I am so sorry to hear about your little boy. I can't imagine the pain you both suffered through that. Some people just don't realize how painful it is for others to discuss the 'children' topic.
God bless.
This is the second thread in a relatively short period of time that has the general gist that single people or childless people are horrible, selfish people. I'm not sure where that seems to be coming from since even the Bible seems to say that, while those things are Holy and can be wonderful, they're not meant for everyone.
Besides the obvious fact that you have forfeited any rational argument by comparing your interlocutor to a Nazi, my premise is simple: people are inherently a good thing and, moreover, I personally like them, and I want to see more of them.
Then by all means, produce as many as you wish! :) You are entirely free to make that decision... for yourself.
I have never seen that, ever.
I'm sure it's possible, but I know plenty of large families and the most noticeable thing about them is that the older siblings take care of the younger siblings and the parents take care of them all.
"It's called "What about ME?" Syndrome. It is rampant."
I know toooooo, many people who have this me syndrome.
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Quite a few of them are parents, in my humble estimation. The me syndrome impacts many regardless of their parental status.
I had an aunt who was one of the most loving, warm, giving and friendly people I have ever known. Everyone loved her. And she loved everyone around her.
But she knew she wasn't really prepared for motherhood, because she had married at a later age. I think she could have raised one child well... but I think more than that would have overwhelmed her. She wasn't perfect.
I see why she didn't want to be a mother. And that doesn't make her any less a beautiful person. Not everyone wants to be Mrs. Cleaver. The world takes all kinds.
Children are expensive from the moment they are conceived. It's very discouraging. Plus you can raise your children perfectly and someone can come along and ruin your hard work.
Children are expensive from the moment they are conceived. It's very discouraging. Plus you can raise your children perfectly and someone can come along and ruin your hard work.
You are fortunate then. But there are definately families out there that are not parenting their large broods.
Big is not always better. Sometimes, not always.
Of course.
What no one should be free to do is to murder an unborn child - that's an inherently evil decision.
At a friends baby shower another guest asked me how many children I had (They were all mothers there, baby talking, you know what I mean). My reply was one word: "None".
With a slightly raised voice, enough so others could hear, she began lecturing me about the selfishness of women who do not have children, how they are denying their husbands, denying society, etc.
I let her finish her self righteous rant, then I said something close to: "My husband and I tried for years to have children and were denied that blessing. You should never assume anything. The way you misspoke can be very very hurtful to some women, but I thought it was simply hateful. You owe me an apology"
She did apologize and promised not to judge others the same way in the future
I have never seen that, ever.
Go to any large city, find the low income neighborhood and you'll see it.
An interestingly dehumanizing and patronizing choice of words.
"She is now infuriated by what she calls "that Mother Right" -- the assumption that everyone will make way for a woman with a stroller or a child in tow...."
If she REALY and TRULY didn't want children, then WHY is she so INFURIATED by a gesture of kindness to a Mom?
Me thinks she is ENVIOUS beyond words and DOES wish she had a child.
"She is now infuriated by what she calls "that Mother Right" -- the assumption that everyone will make way for a woman with a stroller or a child in tow...."
If she REALY and TRULY didn't want children, then WHY is she so INFURIATED by a gesture of kindness to a Mom?
Me thinks she is ENVIOUS beyond words and DOES wish she had a child.
You were far nicer than she deserved.
She is a bitter over the hill female that is in menopause. She can't have her own kids and HATES others that have them. Her clock stopped ticking so her rage kicks in on what she can't have and THEY HAVE!
You nailed it. Children bring joy, but they can also be a stress, and it takes A LOT of vigilance to keep them relatively pure in this culture. If I had more I know the others would spend more time unsupervised and have less of me and hubby; not worth it to me.
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