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Childless: Some by Chance, Some by Choice
The Washington Post ^ | 11/28/06 | Nancy Rome

Posted on 11/28/2006 10:11:14 AM PST by steve-b

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To: steve-b
People who don't want kids shouldn't have them; both they and the rest of us are better for that. Having said that...

But almost all the women I've talked with describe feeling acutely aware of what they see as our national obsession with motherhood.

There is no "national obsession with motherhood." There is an irritating increasing trend toward whiney victimhood, among the exhibitionist childless and, for that matter, lots of other groups.

21 posted on 11/28/2006 10:24:44 AM PST by untenured
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To: juliej

She had a stillbirth and then a divorce. Looks like writing about this subject is helping her work through the losses. I'd cut her some slack.


22 posted on 11/28/2006 10:24:52 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: steve-b

No plans for kids with us. Getting too old anyways.
Some of us just are not meant to be parents.
Of the four of us siblings, only one brother had kids. My sister and my other brother never did.

Kids are like cops, I dont hate 'em, I recognize we need 'em, I just feel better when they aren't around.

I dont mind paying taxes for others kids, I donate to charities that benefit kids. I see co-workers get out of work duties playing the kid card. But so be it.


23 posted on 11/28/2006 10:25:11 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: arizonarachel
when someone asks (rudely!): "Why don't you two have children yet?" it makes me want to hurt them.
The correct way to punctuate a sentence that starts: "Of course It is none of my business but--" is to place a period after the word "but." Don’t use excessive force in supplying such moron with a period. Cutting his throat is only a momentary pleasure and is bound to get you talked about.
--"Lazarus Long" (Robert A. Heinlein)

24 posted on 11/28/2006 10:25:23 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Vicomte13
There's the "Mother Privilege", that the rest of us almost always grant to a mother when we see her struggling along with infants in tow, baby carriage, etc. That's no more a "right" than getting out of the way for somebody carrying an obviously heavy and uncomfortable package, or letting somebody who is obviously old and tired have a seat on the bus. The package guy and the old lady don't have a RIGHT to be deferred to, but civillized people do it, because hey, there but for the grace of God go I (or, in the case of the old lady, whither there est all of us, if we're lucky).

Well said! My mother always just called it, "being nice."

25 posted on 11/28/2006 10:25:25 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (Kelo must GO!! ..... http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: AppyPappy

"It's called "What about ME?" Syndrome. It is rampant."

I know toooooo, many people who have this me syndrome.


26 posted on 11/28/2006 10:25:32 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Vicomte13

Mother privilege - well put!


27 posted on 11/28/2006 10:25:35 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: Ace of Spades
And you're saying it's not their choice to make?

In many cases it is not their choice to make, for quite often they are childless because they paid a doctor to murder their children.

28 posted on 11/28/2006 10:25:50 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Ok. Still, some seem to be calling the author a selfish twit, etc., and probably haven't read the whole article.


29 posted on 11/28/2006 10:26:45 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: steve-b

She does address a very real issue that our society is very reluctant to address. Frankly, the women who should be having children--those who have the means to care for them, who have met success in life and could engender this spirit in their children--simply aren't having kids.

Meanwhile, welfare mom who sits at home pumps out 5 or 6.

This is not a model for success. The Me-Me-Mes (especially in urban areas) are a large reason Europe is going extinct.


30 posted on 11/28/2006 10:26:55 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To: steve-b

To properly parent a child requires tons of time, patience and common sense. It seems reasonable that some may not want to make that commitment. Better not to have them than to let them run wild.


31 posted on 11/28/2006 10:28:21 AM PST by pa mom
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To: MovementConservative

What's wrong with just being the kindly aunt that takes her nephew to the zoo or who mentors kids during lunch breaks.

Having kids I'm sure is a wonderful thing. But, not everybody is called to be married with children. The Bible even talks about it. Being single with no kids can be an opportunity to serve in ways that people with children can't because of their responsibilities with their families.

I'm in a boat where, at best, I might adopt someday because of an unlucky roll of the genetic die. But, you know...I've seent people with children and a merry-go-round of husbands who would have been better off if they had just stayed single. Everybody involved would have been better off.

That being said. Mothers deserve the utmost respect. They deserve all the help they can get raising the next generation. It's EVERYBODY's responsibility to do everything in their power to aid the next generation. But, that doesn't necessarily involve giving birth. If we could get people to give birth to the children already being concieved and then have everybody work together to raise and mentor these kids, population wouldn't be a problem in this country.


32 posted on 11/28/2006 10:28:28 AM PST by ark_girl
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To: steve-b

Looks like something moody Moroon Dowdy would write.


33 posted on 11/28/2006 10:28:48 AM PST by Ilky Hucktar
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To: steve-b

I'm glad that people who don't want children aren't having them. As long as they're not killing their unwanted children, that is. What I hate is the attitude some of them have that they're morally superior to other people because they don't have kids. I grew up as the oldest of seven and oh! some of the comments my parents recieved. My favorite was the time the grocery store bagger told us (there were only five of us at the time and I was 9) that "your mommy has rocks in her head".


34 posted on 11/28/2006 10:29:13 AM PST by JenB (43,604/50,000 - www.nanowrimo.org)
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To: steve-b

The topic is a good place to toss out a rant.

I met a distant relative at a family gathering, after a very brief conversation, the topic turned towards children, specifically me answering that we didn't have any after 15 years of marriage.

This idiot would not let the subject go, like not having children is some sort of deficiency that neeeds correcting.

In case this isn't commone sense to everyone: If you meet someone thats been married a long time and discover they don't have children, either:

a) they don't want children and there's nothing you can do to change that so drop the subject. or

b) they can't have children and its probably a very touchy subject so you should drop it.


35 posted on 11/28/2006 10:29:23 AM PST by NOLA_homebrewer
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

I dearly love my assorted nieces and nephews and I'm a "favorite" to them...and I just don't wish to have children of my own. The number of people who are rudely inclined to ask why is simply outrageous.

~ Blue Jays ~

36 posted on 11/28/2006 10:29:28 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: wideawake

Since that wasn't addressed in this article, there's no need to turn this into yet another abortion thread.


37 posted on 11/28/2006 10:29:53 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: juliej

Twit?


38 posted on 11/28/2006 10:30:39 AM PST by GreenOgre (mohammed is the false prophet of a false god.)
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To: colorado tanker

I feel sorry for her then: but believe me, motherhood is not cherished in this country - I am saying this as somebody who struggled with a stroller.


39 posted on 11/28/2006 10:30:53 AM PST by juliej
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To: linda_22003

Since that wasn't addressed in this article, there's no need to turn this into yet another abortion thread.




Absolutely right! Do you think Michael Richards should raise kids after his racist rant?


40 posted on 11/28/2006 10:31:39 AM PST by durasell (!)
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