Posted on 11/22/2006 7:13:43 PM PST by Tim Long
Hey reverend the Muslims have purpose driven lives too. Their purpose is to either kill, enslave or convert all of us. We have nothing to offer them.
The Rick Warren and fundy type are cheap & rip offs.
I don't see how anyone can feel they are in a church with
their rinky dink music, and side show antics.
I will take Liturgy and Bach anytime.
I am very sad that this pastor would go over seas and blast the Iraq war while we have troops giving their
lives.
Only God knows the heart, but I feel that he will pay
a high price in the end if he turns from the living God to
Allah. Allah is just another name for Satan.
Didn't Fox News Channel even do an hour special on Rick Warren a while back??
Rick Warren's Reply as Posted at www.adrian.warnock.info
Dear Saddleback Family,
Tomorrow our team heads home from a three-nation P.E.A.C.E. plan tour of Germany, Syria, and Rwanda. Our trip began with a P.E.A.C.E. Plan briefing for 44 Christian missions organizations we’d gathered in Atlanta.
In hindsight, I wish we’d been better prepared for our visit to Syria. We would have handled some meetings differently, watched our words more closely, and been more aware of the agenda of their state press. We wanted to just slip in and out, but that’s nearly impossible for me to do anymore. It’s been a learning experience. Be sure to read the press release at the end of this note that gives you all the details.
Why did we go to Syria? The simple truth is that I was invited by my neighbor, Yassar. When we arrived, our first event was a home cooked meal with 20 of Yassar’s family. Then, we were shown many of the historical Christian sites in Syria: the road to Damascus where Paul was converted, Straight street where the Holy Spirit led Paul, the house where Ananias prayed for his healing, the wall where Paul was let down in a basket to escape the Romans, the tomb of John the Baptist and the oldest Christian church building in existence.
Next, my neighbor arranged for us to meet some key Christian leaders, Muslim leaders, and government leaders - including the president of Syria. Franklin Graham has had years of experience with Lebanon and Syria, so I asked him what to say to the Syrian President. Franklin told me, “Thank him for protecting the freedom of Christians and Jews to worship there.”
As we left, the official state-controlled Syrian news agency issued some press releases that sounded like I was a politician negotiating the Iraq war by praising the Syrian President and everything else in Syria! Of course, that’s ridiculous, but it created a stir among bloggers who tend to editorialize before verifying the truth. Does it seem ironic to you that people who distrust Syria are now believing Syrian press releases?
In our meeting with the president, I explained (as usual) the Saddleback P.E.A.C.E. Plan, and he gave us permission to send teams to Syria. Friends, I am aware that inaccuracies, misquotes, and misperceived motivations get reported about me in the press daily. Most of the time, I just ignore them. Jesus said, "If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first.” (John 15:18 - NCV)
I love the paraphrase of Matthew 5:11-12 (Msg): “Count yourselves blessed every time people put you down or speak lies about you to discredit me. What it means is that the truth is too close for comfort and they are uncomfortable. You can be glad when that happens—for though they don't like it, I do! And all heaven applauds. And know that you are in good company. My prophets and witnesses have always gotten into this kind of trouble.”
Just don’t believe everything you read on the Internet or hear in the media.
I love you all and I’m praying for this weekend’s FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OFFERING. I’m excited about getting back home to see you!
Pastor Rick
PRESS RELEASE
A. Larry Ross
Kigali, Rwanda, November 16 – Dr. Rick Warren, best-selling author of The Purpose Driven Life and founding pastor of Southern California’s Saddleback Church, concluded a four-day pastoral visit to Syria earlier this week as part of a three-nation pastoral training and PEACE Plan tour. The trip began last week in Germany, where more than 5,000 church leaders gathered to hear Dr. Warren give an overview of a plan to mobilize local churches to attack the global problems of poverty, disease, illiteracy, corruption and spiritual emptiness. Similar training with church leaders in Rwanda continues this week.
Contrary to reports by the official state-controlled Syrian news agency, Dr. Warren was in Syria to meet with and encourage the country’s key Christian leaders; dialogue with top Muslim leaders; and promote religious freedom. Leaders who met with Dr. Warren included the Patriarchs of the Greek Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church; the leader of the coalition of Evangelical Churches of Syria; and the pastor of the world’s oldest standing church dating back to 315 AD; and Mufti of the Arab Republic of Syria Sheikh Ahmad Badr Al-Din Hassoun.
Dr. Warren’s visit to Syria was neither official nor political, but rather came out of a promise to his Muslim neighbor in California. While discussing over their backyard fence Warren’s frequent international travel, the neighbor asked him to visit his home country of Syria, with its many sites sacred to Christians and church history that date back 2,000 years.
Many Americans don’t realize that both Christianity and Judaism are legal in Syria. In addition, the government provides free electricity and water to all churches; allows pastors to purchase a car tax-free (a tax break not given to Muslim imams); appoints pastors as Christian judges to handle Christian cases; and allows Christians to create their own civil law instead of having to follow Muslim law. Every Christian with whom Dr. Warren’s team met -- including those in the city of Malula, where they represent two-thirds of the population -- expressed gratitude for the government’s protection of their right to worship. “Let there be no doubt about our support for President Bush, our troops in Iraq and the war on terror,” he told the Mufti. When asked if American opinion had turned against the Iraq war. Warren replied, “Yes --The New York Times reported that 80 percent of Americans indicated in Election Day exit polls they now oppose keeping troops in Iraq.” Later, Dr. Warren’s team was told by a Syrian official that it would be a mistake for American troops to immediately pull out.
Because Dr. Warren often meets with presidents of nations he visits, his neighbor also arranged a meeting with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Dr. Warren sought counsel in advance from Syrian experts in Washington, and was told that Syria’s state-controlled media would likely distribute press releases after the meeting, which they did.
“The Syrian government has long had a bad reputation in America, but if one considers a positive action like welcoming in thousands of Christian refugees from Iraq, or the protection of freedom to worship for Christians and Jews in Syria, it should not be ignored,” Dr. Warren said from Rwanda. He further explained that in terms of religious freedom, Syria is far more tolerant than places like Burma, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, and nations identified in the U.S. Commission Report on International Religious Freedom. "Muslims and Christians have lived side by side in Syria for more than a thousand years, often with mosques and churches built next to each other,” he added. “What can we learn from them?
“I believe it is a mistake to not talk to nations considered hostile -- isolation and silence has never solved conflict anywhere, whether between spouses or between nations,” Dr. Warren concluded. He further shared his experience in Rwanda, a country that is experiencing peace after years of conflict by emphasizing reconciliation instead of retaliation. He noted that, as a pastor, he always urges couples in conflict to keep talking to each other -- no matter how angry they are. As long as they keep talking, there is hope for a resolution; but if they refuse to even talk, divorce is inevitable.
Other issues Dr. Warren discussed with Syrian religious, academic and governmental leadership included the importance of civil dialogue among religions; possible student exchange and academic cooperation with Christian universities; and Saddleback Church’s “P.E.A.C.E. Plan” to train local churches to attack poverty, disease, corruption, illiteracy, and spiritual emptiness in cooperation with businesses and governments.
-End-
Et tu, Rev. Warren?
What's that you say? Peace in our time? Show me the signed paper.
A disgrace.
Good...I am glad they know..
I hope James Baker and his group just give up....we all know they are appeasers...and part of the reason we are IN this position.
"Warren already is scheduled to preach in North Korea next year."_________________________________
Gee, I can't wait.
Guess he needs More publicity now that St Ashley is so quiet. By the way, has she gone back to drugs yet?
I can't stand holier than thou money making types...and Warren ranks right up there with Swaggert, the Bakers, and a whole slew of TV "evangelists".
If God wanted to reach us he certainly wouldn't send some heavily made up woman with big hair and a man with a comb over and southern accent!
I am so glad I'm a cynic. I wonder how many copies of Purpose Driven Life have been sold in Syria.
I don't think the Syians have time to read. To busy killing Christians in Lebanon.
Murdoch/News Corp. are the owners of Warren's publishing house. Fox's puff piece on Warren was not objective but self-serving.
"We at VCY America Radio network are appalled and angered that Rick Warren is praising a nation that has long supported international terrorism and that desires the utter destruction of Israel," said a statement from the broadcasting organization.
Hoah! The hutzpah of that jackass is a stench that streams to high heaven.
ANY respect whatsoever that I had held for the man, has with this report been utterly obliterated. And let me tell you what, there isn't much respect on my part for feces that claims to preach the Word of God.
How many of y'all want to hang out and discuss the merits of the man's philanthropy? Did you know that Yasar Arafat gave blood shortly after 01/09/11? I'm fairly certain that philanthopism, humanitarianism, and altruism makes it all o.k.. Remember what Mom always told you: "the ends justify the means."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739550/posts
Are you referring to O'Reilly's segment that I just saw on rerun? I was wondering about that.
Bill O'Reilly is Roman Catholic, btw. Which is why I was wondering.
You are standing by World Net Daily???
"Hold your fire.
No fan of Warren here - but this news is coming from "Official state news report...".
Let's get the full scoop before unleashing."
True - as a catholic it can be maddening to see articles in the media taking the pope's comments out of context - or treating statements made by a liberal bishop/cardinal as if it came from the vatican.
If Rick Warren confirms these comments - then you have a legitimate complaint.
thats why the lep (bill0) had him on today
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