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3 Christian Groups Move To Condemn Gay Sex
Washington Post ^ | Wednesday, November 15, 2006 | WaPo Staff Writers

Posted on 11/16/2006 7:49:32 AM PST by TonyRo76

Faced with rising public acceptance of same-sex relationships, three U.S. Christian denominations are taking strong measures this week to condemn homosexual acts as sinful.

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The nation's Roman Catholic bishops, meeting in Baltimore...

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The largest Baptist group in North Carolina...

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And on Wednesday in Pittsburgh, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), a mainline Protestant denomination with about 3 million members...

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Cool! Very refreshing to see the churches taking a firm stand on the Word of God.
1 posted on 11/16/2006 7:49:34 AM PST by TonyRo76
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

Wow. None too soon!


2 posted on 11/16/2006 7:50:04 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TonyRo76
Since the Bible condemns it, it is real shocking Bible-believing Churches would also.
3 posted on 11/16/2006 7:51:24 AM PST by Always Right
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To: TonyRo76

That's OK. I think I read that 3 gay groups are condemning Christian sex. Or maybe it was just elton john.


4 posted on 11/16/2006 7:52:46 AM PST by dmz
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To: TonyRo76

It needs to be said over and over again.

These people are sick and they need help. Until we as a society go back to acknowledging that it is a sickness, they will continue to live lives of denial and self destruction that affects all of our society.


5 posted on 11/16/2006 7:52:51 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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6 posted on 11/16/2006 7:53:08 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Always Right
» it is real shocking Bible-believing Churches would also

Actually, I am a little shocked—pleasantly so—by the action of the PC(USA) in this regard. It's a mainline denomination that has been theologically adrift for several decades now. To see them affirm Biblical truth on such a hot-button issue is really a nice surprise!

7 posted on 11/16/2006 7:55:31 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TonyRo76

Really, they aren't condemning gay sex. They are simply stating that God does not condone it and as a result, they cannot, either.


8 posted on 11/16/2006 7:55:58 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind
Good distinction. Bttt!
9 posted on 11/16/2006 7:56:26 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TonyRo76

Good for them!!!!! With all the negative we have been hearing about PCUSA this is very refreshing.


10 posted on 11/16/2006 7:57:03 AM PST by Kimmers (Please God; bless America)
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To: TonyRo76

I'll believe the PC-USA is condemning gay sex when the news release actually comes out. Otherwise, I am led to believe it's actually the PCA (Presbyterian Church in America, a more conservative branch) doing this.


11 posted on 11/16/2006 7:57:05 AM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: TonyRo76
Their condemnation is like shooting fish in a barrel. When they come out swinging against divorce (yes, the Catholic Church has, but it not spoken of often), I'll believe they are ready to step up to the plate and help families.
12 posted on 11/16/2006 7:57:33 AM PST by HaveHadEnough
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To: JRios1968
» I'll believe the PC-USA ... when the news release actually comes out. Otherwise, I am led to believe it's actually the PCA ... doing this.

That was my initial thought too. But in fact, it's true! Hence my utter surprise:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1738543/posts

13 posted on 11/16/2006 8:01:20 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TonyRo76

No wonder Elton John has his knickers in a twist.


14 posted on 11/16/2006 8:02:22 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: TonyRo76
"Very refreshing to see the churches taking a firm stand on the Word of God."

...finally.

15 posted on 11/16/2006 8:02:32 AM PST by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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To: HaveHadEnough

Baby steps, I guess. But yeah, a strong stand on divorce is certainly called for in this day and age.


16 posted on 11/16/2006 8:02:33 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TonyRo76

Amazing...maybe the PC-USA finally had a "Come to Jesus" moment...and not too soon.


17 posted on 11/16/2006 8:02:56 AM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: dmz
That's OK. I think I read that 3 gay groups are condemning Christian sex. Or maybe it was just elton john.

It might have been Elton when he was speaking so tolerantly about how Christians are so intolerant. Now that is a hypocrite.

18 posted on 11/16/2006 8:06:24 AM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: TonyRo76
It's nice to see Washington Post is catching up on their stories since this condemnation from the churches is over 2000+ years now and last I checked there was a few more than only 3 Christian Groups that have condemned these acts.
19 posted on 11/16/2006 8:06:40 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill
» this condemnation from the churches is over 2000+ years now

LOL! The WaPo sure scooped everyone on this breaking news, huh?

20 posted on 11/16/2006 8:08:28 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: HaveHadEnough
When they come out swinging against divorce (yes, the Catholic Church has, but it not spoken of often), I'll believe they are ready to step up to the plate and help families.

By come out swinging what do you mean? Should a couple be somehow forced to stay together and if they don't they're not allowed back into church?

21 posted on 11/16/2006 8:08:53 AM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: JRios1968

I call BS on PCUSA doing that.


22 posted on 11/16/2006 8:09:38 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TonyRo76


Now the Episcopalians will have somewhere to go.


23 posted on 11/16/2006 8:10:37 AM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: TonyRo76

Yes. Divorce causes so much more harm to children, families, women, etc. that it should be their top priority.


24 posted on 11/16/2006 8:11:49 AM PST by HaveHadEnough
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To: TonyRo76

Yea, I'm sure the NY Times is kicking themselves for not picking up on this 2000+ year scoop first.


25 posted on 11/16/2006 8:12:11 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: HaveHadEnough

Just wait... I've heard our German Shepherd is about to come down hard on divorce and remarriage.


26 posted on 11/16/2006 8:14:51 AM PST by pgyanke (Gay marriage does to real marriage what counterfeit money does to real money. - Hemogoblin)
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To: tobyhill
Heh...the NYT is too busy helping our jihadi enemies undermine America's war effort.
27 posted on 11/16/2006 8:16:14 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TXBubba
E.J. is a walking freakshow, only mildly less weird than Michael Jackson or Dennis Rodman.
28 posted on 11/16/2006 8:17:58 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: pgyanke

Sometimes dogs know better.


29 posted on 11/16/2006 8:18:15 AM PST by HaveHadEnough
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To: TonyRo76

Way to go . . .


30 posted on 11/16/2006 8:23:57 AM PST by Princip. Conservative
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To: JRios1968

THAT was my thought....must be PCA!


31 posted on 11/16/2006 8:24:14 AM PST by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: AppyPappy
I say horse hokey too.

No gay clergy is the message [Presbyterian delegates reject national ordination rule]

In June, a rule was passed at a national conference that gave individual districts the flexibility to ordain gay clergy.

32 posted on 11/16/2006 8:24:58 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: TonyRo76

Next step is for them to respond to the Muslim danger. It is not gay sex (private acts) that will destroy us but it is Islam (world-wide threat) that poses the greater danger.


33 posted on 11/16/2006 8:26:11 AM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: All

I DON'T BELIEVE ANTHING UNTIL I HEAR IT IN CNN, NBC or NYT. IF the Left media announces... (what? Changes? New Dogma? Whatever...), Then I "might" believe there is some true in it.


34 posted on 11/16/2006 8:28:38 AM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: TonyRo76
Now we need to re-educate society with 'OVEHAULING OF GAY AMERICAN /WORLD THINKING'....We need to do so with compassion and understanding. Tell them they do have a choice. Show them the way to overcome those unwanted, not asked for, same sex feelings [early on if possible]. Give them the support to do so [like AA;GA;SAA etc. do] and then help them succeed. This is what has been lost in the pro-gay rhetoric for 30+ years. Finally, demand the pro-gay propaganda be eliminated from our public school curriculums.
35 posted on 11/16/2006 8:32:40 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: TonyRo76
3 Christian Groups Move To Condemn Gay Sex

Yes, we should all be more somber when having conjugal relations.

Perhaps a more accurate headline would be "3 Christian Groups Move To Condemn HOMOSEXUAL Sex".

36 posted on 11/16/2006 8:32:50 AM PST by Disambiguator (;^))
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To: billbears
Should a couple be somehow forced to stay together and if they don't they're not allowed back into church?

Jesus nowhere in the Gospels gives a direct condemnation of homosexuality (he does make passing references to Sodom and Gomorrah), but he does give a direct prohibition of divorce, saying that persons who remarry after divorce are guilty of adultury (except in cases of infidelity).

37 posted on 11/16/2006 8:37:15 AM PST by megatherium
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To: TonyRo76; wagglebee; little jeremiah; EdReform

After Queen Hildebea$t wins the 2008 election and more rats get elected to congress. This action by these church leaders will become the poster boy hate crime model for the homosexuals and the rats.


38 posted on 11/16/2006 8:39:05 AM PST by Grampa Dave (They Bush haters on both sides have elected the government they have dreamed of!)
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To: megatherium
Jesus nowhere in the Gospels gives a direct condemnation of homosexuality

Oh please. Where did He cancel the Levitical laws on morality? Because Jesus didn't directly mention it as prohibited, it's now acceptable to sleep with animals and ALL your relatives? Oh and Steve and Dave can marry? What kind of "logic" is that?

39 posted on 11/16/2006 8:45:18 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: HaveHadEnough

The Church's stand on divorce has remained unchanged for centuries, and will continue to do so. "What God has joined, let no man put asunder."


40 posted on 11/16/2006 8:50:53 AM PST by karnage
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To: megatherium

"Jesus nowhere in the Gospels gives a direct condemnation of homosexuality"..


God's Wrath Against Mankind.

Men committed indecent acts with other men,
and received in themselvs the due
penalty for their perversion.

Romans: 1, 27 - 28.


41 posted on 11/16/2006 8:55:37 AM PST by SeeSalt
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To: TonyRo76

Well, this'll force the issue within PC-USA.


42 posted on 11/16/2006 9:10:09 AM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: megatherium

Do you apply that argument to any other act He said nothing about? On divorce, I agree.


43 posted on 11/16/2006 9:12:54 AM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: HaveHadEnough

Sin is Sin, and the consequences are great no matter what the sin is!


44 posted on 11/16/2006 9:18:24 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: TonyRo76

I love the smell of good news in the morning.


45 posted on 11/16/2006 9:25:42 AM PST by BigFinn
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To: TonyRo76
The nation's Roman Catholic bishops,
What part of "Intrinsically disordered" do folks not understand?

The largest Baptist group in North Carolina...
Regardless of other disagreements I may have with them, their moral theology has always been pretty sound.

the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
The PCUSA? Now that's somewhat surprising.

46 posted on 11/16/2006 9:28:05 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: billbears
"Should a couple be somehow forced to stay together and if they don't they're not allowed back into church?"

The Church hands out papers that says the marriage never existed, which is ridiculous. Then allows the party(s) that filed for divorce to remarry in the Church. That act of hand waiving and issuing papers saying the marriage never existed is not supporting marriage. They should tell the parties that filed for divorce w/o just cause, that their marriage was good, what they are doing is wrong and not remarry the party(s) that did the wrong.

47 posted on 11/16/2006 9:30:04 AM PST by spunkets
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To: ConservativeMind
Really, they aren't condemning gay sex. They are simply stating that God does not condone it and as a result, they cannot, either.

I am glad some people see it that way. ticks me off when someone tells me "not to judge" I am not judging, GOD already said it was bad.

48 posted on 11/16/2006 9:34:26 AM PST by Kewlhand`tek (Those that can't , Teach. Those that can't teach , Report)
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To: HaveHadEnough
"yes, the Catholic Church has, but it not spoken of often"

See #47. They issue papers to anyone that applies.

49 posted on 11/16/2006 9:36:12 AM PST by spunkets
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To: SeeSalt

That's St. Paul speaking, not Jesus.


50 posted on 11/16/2006 9:39:01 AM PST by megatherium
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