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Maoris 'facing extinction' from diabetes
Dominion Post (New Zealand) ^ | Tuesday November 14 2006 | None ascribed

Posted on 11/13/2006 9:19:04 PM PST by Brian Allen

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To: metmom

A more active life style helps as it boosts the immune system. But a lack of cocacola helps too. The Amish eat organic foods, and do not buy a lot of soda pop. Phophosphoric Acid and high sugar is a particulary bad combination that breeds Candida intestinaly.


61 posted on 11/19/2006 9:39:44 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: metmom
I think the little bushman in the movie about the coke bottle, The gods must be crazy ran a lot, lol
62 posted on 11/19/2006 9:42:53 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (stand up, stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the Cross)
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To: IslandJeff
I would like to point out that earlier in the thread that the Amish eat a western diet and do not have early onset diabetes. I suspect that hormones, anti-biotics found in store bought foods along with preservatives must play a larger role than originally thought. The Amish raise their own food organically, including their meat.

Here we have a perfect combination for testing this theory, Islanders eating western food, and westerners eating organic foods. Note that here in Israel we get the Island food type of western food as it all has to be shipped overseas. As an example, all the cereals are branded made in america, for export only. The burito shells all last a year, not a few weeks as they are laced with much higher than normal preservatives. I suspect that the preservatives are a very important key to this puzzle.

The Amish eat organic foods with NO preservatives.

63 posted on 11/19/2006 9:46:50 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel; metmom

Actually there is a theory that native Americans, for example, could have always been predisposed to diabetes genetically, just because of their lifestyle. They were nomadic in some instances, and in others, may have had periods of plenty interspersed with periods of famine. Genetically they would have had a need to store fat in their bodies. Being moved to reservations and no longer able to migrate and to eat their traditional foods, nuts, seeds, etc. would have wreaked damage to their physical makeup. Plus, no records were kept before the whites came, so no one can be sure how long they may have had the condition.


64 posted on 11/19/2006 9:58:08 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (stand up, stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the Cross)
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To: 1000 silverlings
This may be true, but native Americans come from two distinct DNA strains, the Mongolian and the European. The Polynesians are a third group. While becoming fat may be handy and one could think that evolution might favor that, becoming dead is quite the side effect that cancels out any advantage to insulin errors.

It is not the foods, but how they are prepared that seem to be the common thread here. These indigenous populations had no problems on naturally prepared local foods. In all four population groups the common factor is industrially prepared and preserved foods. All four groups eating organic local foods do not show any signs of a problem!

I know from my studies that anti-biotics, steroids and hormones all cause fungus growth to accelerate. The levels of hormones in meats are down right scary.

An example from my own life, we raised a hawk with damaged feathers for re-release. The master falconer of the county told us that it would take three years worth of molts to save this hawk, but that was not a problem. She could get the hawk to molt three times a year. She had us feed the hawk normally for three months, then put the hawk on Foster Farms chicken pieces out of the market for a week. The hawk would then molt. I asked her why this works, she said, oh Market chickens are given hormones to cause their feathers to pluck easier when they are prepared for consumption. The hormones in the meat dose the hawk.

Cows in America are given hormones to increase milk production, and hormones to make them grow faster. Any wonder breast cancer rates are soaring in young women? Any wonder than we are now raising 6 foot girls at an accelerating rate? Any wonder rampant child obesity is a new phenomena?

The common use of anti-biotics in meat animals as a prophylactic instead of an on case basis causes us to all be dosed daily with low levels of anti-biotics. The natural gut bacteria all respond badly to this and are not at healthy levels. And it is that gut bacteria that is our primary fungal defense for the normal levels of fungus in our diet. With no gut bacteria, you WILL get an intestinal Candida infection. With low levels and high sugar diet, I suspect the same.

Is it a coincidence that the common use of hormones and anti-biotics and these problems all came together? I link these things in my mind, this study fairly screams it.
65 posted on 11/19/2006 10:15:00 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

Oh I agree completely, and I refuse to eat most red meat or milk. Fortunately there is a trend back to grass fed beef here, and our farmer's markets are thriving. However, I personally know of horror stories re organic, so just because it says "organic" as we say, don't mean nothin'.


66 posted on 11/19/2006 10:19:47 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (stand up, stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the Cross)
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To: 1000 silverlings

That is true, you really have to know the source of the food. A farmers market is a great source, a boxed product with "organic" on the label is very suspect. I only wish you could get grass fed beef here in Israel. No grasslands...

I had some grass fed beef back home in California last visit, man, it was better tasting, great Steaks. Real wipe your plate with the bread stuff.

Blessings on you and yours...


67 posted on 11/19/2006 10:40:53 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: lafroste
The libs need to deal with it.

Naw. Let 'em veg. Thin the herd.

68 posted on 11/19/2006 10:50:37 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Brian Allen

So let me get these straight. Pacific Island aborigines are being affected at a 25% rate with a disease which is attributed to the alarming rate of McDonald's they are consuming instead of their normal diet which used to be berries, twigs and missionaries. Or are the missionaries fatter and the aborigines are getting lethal second-hand diabetes?

Maybe the solution is to have them switch to eating liberal busybody endocrinologists, environmentalists and other healthier people with way too much time on their hands so they won't get as fat. Oh and urging plenty of exercise - such as hunting liberals to eat. That works for me.


69 posted on 11/19/2006 11:06:03 PM PST by Tall_Texan (NO McCain, Rudy, Romney, Hillary, Kerry, Obama or Gore in 2008!)
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To: Tall_Texan

a missionary a day makes a Maorie healthy ,wealthy, and wise


70 posted on 11/19/2006 11:08:16 PM PST by woofie (creativity is destructive)
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To: lafroste

Even the most insane diets ever published were never attacked like the Atkins diet.

Dr. Atkins was THE ENEMY to bakers, pasta makers, potato farmers, and the high fructose corn syrup industry.

I'm still doing Atkins, but it's certainly more difficult and expensive since the High Carb industry went to such lengths to discredit the Atkins diet.

I still hear the whispering campaign, claiming that Atkins is dangerous, from people who "Read is somewhere", so JUST KNOW it's true.

The real money is in the high carb foods, and the "food" industry is certainly more concerned with profit than our health.

Too bad this falls harder on the primitive peoples of the world.

I lost about 50 pounds, and notice that I am also much clearer headed.


71 posted on 11/19/2006 11:29:20 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Richard-SIA
I lost about 50 pounds, and notice that I am also much clearer headed.

It IS astonishing, isn't it? I lost so much weight so fast that Jenny Craig et al would be out of business inside a year if it really caught on. My own doctor's knee-jerk response was "BAD!!!", then he looked at my weight chart and my blood chemistry results and said "keep doing what you are doing".

Atkins nailed it. It is an insulin response phenomenon. Keep the pressure up and the junk food gurus will find a way to allow their food and my insulin response via new wonder drugs. (Not that I have to partake of course).

72 posted on 11/19/2006 11:41:37 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: Tall_Texan; shaggy eel; Fred Nerks; B4Ranch

An American Man after me own heart BUMPping!


73 posted on 11/19/2006 11:55:07 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Old Professer; djf

<< Sounds like the ancient tribes of Stillborns and Willpowers. >>

And of Alcoholism, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and Glue and Gasoline Sniffing,


74 posted on 11/19/2006 11:58:05 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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