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S.F. Disputes Its Bleedng-Heart Image
AP ^ | 11/9/6 | RACHEL KONRAD and LISA LEFF

Posted on 11/09/2006 11:03:29 AM PST by SmithL

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To: SmithL
S.F. Disputes Its Bleedng-Heart Image

There is a very simple thing that San Francisco could do to go a long way towards dispelling this image: The could reconsider their decision to reject housing the USS Iowa, currently mothballed in Suisun Bay.

-PJ

61 posted on 11/09/2006 1:49:01 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: SmithL

Muchof this beautiful city, which I have probably visited over 20 times, has become a cesspool.


62 posted on 11/09/2006 2:09:41 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: Argus

Visited there a few years ago.
I think it must have been a nice place.
Maybe 50-60 years ago.

I was suprised at the amount of grime in some of the areas...almost
but not quite as bad as Matamoros, Mexico.


63 posted on 11/09/2006 2:47:03 PM PST by VOA
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To: doug from upland
Muchof this beautiful city, which I have probably visited over 20 times, has become a cesspool.

The only tolerable neighborhoods left in San Francisco are the Marina and Pacific Heights. Everywhere else is dirty and full of low-lifes. The folks in Marina and Pac Heights are well-to-do but blinded by their liberalism. None of these folks ever make their way down to the Tenderloin, Union Square, or Civic Center areas or they'd quickly be appalled at what liberalism has delivered.

65 posted on 11/09/2006 3:10:21 PM PST by Azzurri
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To: SmithL
mainstream Democrat

Sure, a stream filled from melted yellow snow...

66 posted on 11/09/2006 3:18:29 PM PST by newzjunkey (Osama is smiling today.)
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To: drubyfive; ariamne
Read Cinnamon Stillwell. She's a writer from SF, writes for the San Francisco Chronicle I believe. She is a liberal turned conservative; bright, witty, and a good columnist.

Start Here: Cinnamon Stillwell: The Making of a 9/11 Republican

I keep a ping list if you're interested.

67 posted on 11/09/2006 3:26:48 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: SmithL

I had Cinnamon on my Rightalk Radio show a couple years ago.


68 posted on 11/09/2006 3:28:32 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: TonyRo76

Excellent comparision.


69 posted on 11/09/2006 3:32:01 PM PST by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: RexBeach
Look, this is a fact, San Francisco has the LOWEST percentage of citizens attending church or temple regularly of any major city in America. The number? At last report, a couple of years ago, was 10%.

And I remember back when they did a story on one "church" in SF, where the service basically consisted of listening to John Coltrane recordings.

70 posted on 11/09/2006 3:34:28 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Crazieman
"Sodom and Gomorrah have nothing on San Fransicko."

Jay Leno once said that if God didn't destroy LA and San Francisco, He owed Sodom and Gomarah a big apology. And sometimes you have to wonder why He allows such places to prosper.
71 posted on 11/09/2006 3:35:28 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: SmithL
"They think we are tree-huggers and granola eaters,"

Yes, you f***ing well are. Stop lying.

Regards, Ivan

72 posted on 11/09/2006 3:36:03 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: SmithL
San Francisco is, without a doubt, the nation's unofficial gay capital and a bastion of the far left and the radical fringe.
But it is also the home of cutting-edge businesses, rich Internet entrepreneurs and other buccaneering capitalists, and a monied class that thrives on fine dining and the arts.
 
 
 

Genesis 13
 1.  So Abram went up from Egypt to the Negev, with his wife and everything he had, and Lot went with him.
 2.  Abram had become very wealthy in livestock and in silver and gold.
 3.  From the Negev he went from place to place until he came to Bethel, to the place between Bethel and Ai where his tent had been earlier
 4.  and where he had first built an altar. There Abram called on the name of the LORD.
 5.  Now Lot, who was moving about with Abram, also had flocks and herds and tents.
 6.  But the land could not support them while they stayed together, for their possessions were so great that they were not able to stay together.
 7.  And quarreling arose between Abram's herdsmen and the herdsmen of Lot. The Canaanites and Perizzites were also living in the land at that time.
 8.  So Abram said to Lot, "Let's not have any quarreling between you and me, or between your herdsmen and mine, for we are brothers.
 9.  Is not the whole land before you? Let's part company. If you go to the left, I'll go to the right; if you go to the right, I'll go to the left."
 10.  Lot looked up and saw that the whole plain of the Jordan was well watered, like the garden of the LORD, like the land of Egypt, toward Zoar.
       (This was before the LORD destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.)
 11.  So Lot chose for himself the whole plain of the Jordan and set out toward the east. The two men parted company:
 12.  Abram lived in the land of Canaan, while Lot lived among the cities of the plain and pitched his tents near Sodom.
 13.  Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.
 14.  The LORD said to Abram after Lot had parted from him, "Lift up your eyes from where you are and look north and south, east and west.
 15.  All the land that you see I will give to you and your offspring  forever.
 16.  I will make your offspring like the dust of the earth, so that if anyone could count the dust, then your offspring could be counted.
 17.  Go, walk through the length and breadth of the land, for I am giving it to you."
 18.  So Abram moved his tents and went to live near the great trees of Mamre at Hebron, where he built an altar to the LORD.

73 posted on 11/09/2006 3:59:21 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: SmithL
From the posted article:

Arianna Orleans, 35, a professor of English and a married mother of a 15-month-old boy in San Francisco, wondered why many Americans see the city as unaligned with "family values."

"I want to raise my child in San Francisco because that I feel that here he'll see examples of all kinds of people, and he'll know that all those different choices are valid," Orleans said. "Whether he wants to wear tie-dye or khakis — that's valid, and there will probably be lots of other people making the same choices who are valuable, respected members of his community."

Ex-liberal Cinnamon Stillwell on the reality of Bay Area leftist "tolerance":

Like many a political convert, I took it on myself to openly oppose the politics of those with which I once shared world views. Beyond writing, I put myself on the front lines of this ideological battle by taking part in counterprotests at the antiwar rallies leading up to the war in Iraq. This turned out to be a further wake-up call, because it was there that I encountered more intolerance than ever before in my life. Holding pro-Iraq-liberation signs and American flags, I was spat on, called names, intimidated, threatened, attacked, cursed and, on a good day, simply argued with. It was clear that any deviation from the prevailing leftist groupthink of the Bay Area was considered a threat to be eliminated as quickly as possible.

I lived in the extended Bay Area for over nine years. Stillwell is right. When Orleans says that she wants for her son to interact with "valuable, respected members of his community," she is almost certainly referring only to gays and to ethnic minorities, and not to unapologetic Christians, second Amendment supporters, and real, non-RINO conservatives. She probably regards the latter groups with dismissive contempt, though her understanding of conservative viewpoints is probably nil.

In other words, odds are that Orleans is a standard issue liberal bigot, smugly blind to her own small-minded intolerance.

74 posted on 11/09/2006 4:26:41 PM PST by TChad
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To: DesScorp

And sometimes you have to wonder why He allows such places to prosper.
 

NIV 1 Timothy 1:15-16
 15.  Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom I am the worst.
 16.  But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life.
 

NIV 2 Peter 3:15
   Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.
 
NIV Romans 9:22
   What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath--prepared for destruction?

75 posted on 11/09/2006 4:27:07 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

Thanks for that...its times like these I need that comfort.


76 posted on 11/09/2006 5:02:57 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: Azzurri
The only tolerable neighborhoods left in San Francisco are the Marina and Pacific Heights. Everywhere else is dirty and full of low-lifes. The folks in Marina and Pac Heights are well-to-do but blinded by their liberalism. None of these folks ever make their way down to the Tenderloin, Union Square, or Civic Center areas or they'd quickly be appalled at what liberalism has delivered.

I hate to break it to you, but the edges of the cesspool have widened and now include the outer corridor (Van Ness, parts of Polk and Union streets) of both neighborhoods. The bums are everywhere!

Many of the young wealthy people in the area seem to think that beggars everywhere (Calcutta, anyone?) is normal, while the older generation mostly avoids the outside world except to go from their limos to the opera/ballet/various charity benefits. Limousine liberals indeed.

79 posted on 11/09/2006 8:49:30 PM PST by Femperialist
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To: TonyRo76

Funny thing is, many liberal Bible scholars try to deny the factual historicity of Sodom and Gomorrah, or write off their fate as just some ancient myth or allegory. Still others claim that the two cities just suffered a natural calamity that was "blamed" on God, etc.

The fairy tales liberals can come up with are very amusing, for sure. But the events that took place at those two ancient, perverse cities are definitely not a subject modern perverts would want to acknowledge as being true!

Well you ya gonna believe?  Some lunatic liar (and his enablers) that got himself crucified, or modern wise men?




NIV Matthew 10:15
   I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
 

NIV Matthew 11:23-24
 23.  And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths.  If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom , it would have remained to this day.
 24.  But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you."
 
NIV Matthew 11:24
   But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you."
 

NIV Luke 10:12
 I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.
 

NIV Luke 17:29-30
 29.  But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
 30.  "It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.
 
 
 
 
 

NIV Romans 9:29
   It is just as Isaiah said previously: "Unless the Lord Almighty had left us descendants, we would have become like Sodom, we would have been like Gomorrah."
 

NIV 2 Peter 2:4-9
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 

NIV Jude 1:7
   In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

80 posted on 11/10/2006 4:07:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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