Posted on 11/05/2006 4:46:27 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
Problem in Iraq is that there is no shortage of factions. Everyone wants power, every one wants the oil revenue and then add in terrorists all coming for a friendly jihad event from all over the neighborhood and you have more than a short war. It may take a while.
What will discourage the terror types is when they learn we are there for the duration. If we show any weakness at all they will fill the void, that's what the dems are hoping. They want to instill weakness within the adm. and aid the terrorists which in turn aids them into power. We are the protectorates of freedom here, we will stop their sorry traitorous asses by exposing them every time they do so.
The problem that seems impossible now with differing factions within Iraq will slowly solve itself as they mature as a democracy. Slowly may mean months or more likely years. This is an experiment in liberating an entire population. We opened the valves of freedom overnight and many don't know quite how to handle it. The fact that it may take while to jell is not a detraction for Democracy just a byproduct.
Thanks SC.
"Clinton criticized the "ideologues" in Washington and applauded the conservatives and progressives alike who "are still searching for the truth," he said.
"If you are an ideologue, you get the answers and you don’t need the facts," he said. "If the facts don’t agree with your position, you ignore them or make up a new story."
Hmm. Hitlery is in Washington and a 'progressive' and an idealogue - guess he wasn't talking about her....
Funny, how the Dims keep running campaigns in churches (primarily Black), but, if and when the Pubbies did it they would be screaming (and have done just that).
Sorry this is a long post, but if you haven't read the first two articles, IMHO, they are worth reading.
The last part was my reply to the articles.
Check this out from a recent FR thread:
1993 : (DISASTEROUS CLINTON ADMINISTRATION TEST BAN TREATY POLICY MAKES NUCLEAR INFORMATION PUBLIC, WOULD RESULT IN PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY - See ENERGY DEPARTMENT "OPENNESS INITIATIVE," HAZEL O'LEARY ) Back in 1993, when the terrors of the Cold War were still fresh, the administration decided that the best way to keep the nuclear arms race from heating up again was to get the world's nations to sign a test-ban treaty.
The idea was that even if a country knew how to make a bomb, it couldn't perfect new ones and build up advanced forces without physically testing new designs. So development of new weapons would be frozen, ending the vicious spiral of nuclear move and countermove.
Releasing many of America's nuclear secrets was seen as an essential part of this strategy, since it would signal a new global order in which nuclear know-how was suddenly and irreparably devalued and real security would lie in the collective knowledge that nobody was able to push weaponry beyond the known boundaries.
What had been gold would become dross, and the atom would lose power and prestige. Driven by such logic, the administration made public masses of generalities about nuclear arms, even as specific weapon designs were kept secret.
... Since 1993, officials say, the Energy Department's "openness initiative" has released at least 178 categories of atom secrets. By contrast, the 1980s saw two such actions. The unveilings have included no details of specific weapons, like the W-88, a compact design Chinese spies are suspected of having stolen from the weapons lab at Los Alamos, N.M.
But they include a slew of general secrets. ... the disclosures... such things as how atom bombs can be boosted in power, key steps in making hydrogen bombs, the minimum amount (8.8 pounds) of plutonium or uranium fuel needed for an atom bomb and the maximum time it takes an exploding atomic bomb to ignite an H-bomb's hydrogen fuel (100 millionths of a second). No grade-B physicist from any university could figure this stuff. It took decades of experience gained at a cost of more than $400 billion.
The release of the secrets started as a high-stakes bet that openness would lessen, not increase, the world's vulnerability to nuclear arms and war. - "Spying Isn't the Only Way to Learn About Nukes," By WILLIAM J. BROAD, the New York Times, May 30, 1999
DECEMBER 1993 : (ENERGY SECRETARY HAZEL O'LEARY PROUDLY DECLASSIFYING NUCLEAR SECRETS...) And the devaluing of nuclear secrets, highlighted by the rush of atomic declassifications, was seen as a prerequisite to the [Nuclear Test Ban Treaty] ban's achievement. The symbolism alone was potent, officials say. Openness let them advertise a dramatic new state of affairs where hidden actions were to be kept to a minimum, replacing decades of secrecy and paranoia.
"The United States must stand as leader," O'Leary told a packed news conference in December 1993 upon starting the process. "We are declassifying the largest amount of information in the history of the department."
Critics, however, say the former secrets are extremely valuable to foreign powers intent on making nuclear headway. - "Spying Isn't the Only Way to Learn About Nukes," By WILLIAM J. BROAD, the New York Times, May 30, 1999
U.S. intelligence has reported that China has targeted 13 of its 18 CSS-4 long-range missiles against U.S. cities. The CIA says that China's targeting was made more accurate by Loral's unauthorized help. The Justice Department started a criminal investigation of Loral, and the State Department warned that Loral's actions were "criminal, likely to be indicted, knowing and unlawful."
In March 1996, despite the objections of Secretary of State Warren Christopher, the Defense Department and our intelligence agencies, Clinton personally transferred jurisdiction over satellite-export licensing from the State Department to his pal, Commerce Secretary Ron Brown. Meanwhile, Bernard Schwartz stepped up his contributions to the Democratic Party and became the largest single contributor in the 1996 election cycle. Clinton signed another waiver this year to allow Loral Space to export a satellite that is scheduled to be launched by the Chinese in November.
Congress is finally starting to realize that American national security is at stake. On May 20, the House voted 364 to 54 to ban the export of all satellites to China. And, by 417 to 4, the House passed a resolution warning Clinton not to enter into any new agreements with China involving space or missile technology during his forthcoming trip to Beijing. The resolution also rebuked Clinton by declaring that his decision to issue the waiver to Loral Space and Communications earlier this year was "not in the national interest of the United States," and instructed the President to indefinitely suspend all U.S. satellite exports to China, including a pending Loral deal.
The fact that Clinton personally issued the waivers to allow shipments of U.S. technology that greatly improved the accuracy and reliability of Communist China's missiles is grounds for impeachment, regardless of whether or not there was any quid pro quo for those decisions. U.S. space technology was just what China needs to make intercontinental ballistic missiles and point them more accurately at U.S. cities. And he did it despite the objections of the U.S. State Department, Defense Department, Justice Department, and intelligence agencies.
Because China shared U.S. technology and equipment with Pakistan, Clinton is also responsible for India starting the nuclear race in Asia. India has fought three wars with its neighbor, Pakistan, since the end of World War II and looks upon Pakistan's new military capabilities as a direct threat.
Clinton's policy decisions were, on their face, damaging and dangerous to U.S. national security. And the calendar provides an ominous frame of reference. When Clinton's policy decisions that dramatically benefited China's military capability and Loral's profits, and the hundreds of thousands of dollars of campaign donations from the Chinese government and from Loral, are all placed on the calendar, the sequence shows a pattern of corruption that cannot be ignored. That's the real campaign finance scandal.
This part was the reply to the above post, and my reply back:
(Reply to my #46 Post):
"Holy Cow! Congress knew what clinton was up too and even warned him."
IIRC, THIS was the REAL reason for Clinton's impeachment trial. Most of The House members that ACTUALLY read ALL the Articles of Impeachment,( they were almost classified, but every Congress critter was ALLOWED to read them , held in a secure place which meant read under supervision only) voted for impeaching Clinton.
It was brought out at the Senate trial, (and in the House also) that alot of the dems NEVER read ALL the Articles of Impeachment (basically treason) against Clinton, because if they did, they would have had ZERO excuse for NOT voting for impeachment.
THIS is why Carville, Belgalla et al, beat the "It's only about sex" drum so loudly, to hide the other REAL reasons why Clinton was being impeached.
IMHO, think of the implications in and to the whole country, AND the World, IF it would have been WIDELY broadcast, that US President was ACTUALLY being tried for TREASON !!
Think of all the nasty dirty stuff treason wise that would have WORLDWIDE have had to be aired about our president, and the US political situation.
It would have rocked the world, made our friends NOT trust us, collapsed the economy worldwide, along with ours, KILLED the dems darn near FOREVER from holding office for the Presidency, and basically destroyed the American people from having faith in their Gov't for a LONG time.
This is why the Repubs went with the "sex" angle for the impeachment, to soften THAT blow, keep all the REALLY bad stuff from being made public, and the dems THEN used THAT as the ONLY reason for impeachment.
Think of it THIS way. The US Gov't wanted Al Capone put away in the worst way. An organized crime boss, responsible for an untold number of deaths, police and gov't bribery and coruption, drugs, prostitution, illegal gambling, etc.
He needed to go to prison.
Capones' hold on the police, judges, and local gov't was SO strong, that Capone was NEVER convicted in a court of law for ANY of the crimes mentioned above.
But Capone DID go to prison for the rest of his life.
He was convicted of INCOME TAX EVASION.
Bill Clinton needed to be Impeached for his treasonous activities against the United States of America. It would have been hard to get THAT conviction in "court", with so many Clinton cronies entrenched in it, so the Repubs, and a FEW dems, went for the 'sure thing " conviction of lying undr oath, to a Federal Grand Jury.
It passed in the House, but the Senate turned it down, and Clinton got away with more treason than many people have been executed for.
In other words, Monica was Bill's "income tax evasion", and when it REALLY counted, he was found "not guilty".
We the people are STILL and WILL be paying for Clinton's traeson for a LONG time. End.
IMHO, These two should NEVER be allowed to be ANYWHERE near the WHITE HOUSE in a position as POTUS ever again.
Agreed!
I'm not sure he can pull it out, but it would be oh so sweet if he could. I've read posts that the Pubbie GOTV is good and the reports from the ground are encouraging. On 1 hand this is Zogby, OTOH, he needs to CYA and be close to maintain any credibility he might have had:
Zogby Poll: Blackwell Closes to Single Digits
http://www.kenblackwell.com ^ | Tuesday, October 31, 2006 | Carlo LoParo
Posted on 11/04/2006 9:15:22 AM PST by Maelstorm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1732238/posts
Whoo Hoo! Here's what Steele said on FNS this a.m.:
Michael Steele tells Washington Post to "Eat It" - God I love it!
Fox News ^ | November 5, 2006 | Transcript
Posted on 11/05/2006 1:58:00 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
I've not come to them as a Republican or a Democrat, as an African-American, or anything other than who I am, and that is someone who believes in public service, who wants to go to Washington to try his best to make a difference in a town that has forgotten where people live and how they live and what they go through every day.
So that's not color. That's not party affiliation. That's real life. And I've been speaking to real life for the last year and a half, and the people of my state are responding to it. ..
...It is absolutely pitiful, and that's nothing more than what the Baltimore Sun said about me four years ago, that I bring nothing to the table but the color of my skin. They were just a little bit more sophisticated in their ignorance.
My conversation with the editorial board didn't go the way they wanted it to go because I wouldn't kowtow and answer the questions the way they wanted me to answer them. I'm my own person. I don't care about the Washington Post. .. not going to get me elected. The Washington Post is not going to prevent me from getting elected.
They're a bunch of folks, as I told them in the interview, who sit in an ivory tower, who have no clue what real life is about out here. It's easy to pontificate when you don't have to put a vote on the line, when you don't have to look a voter in the eye and let them know what you really think, so what — they come after me.
.... So clearly, I must be winning this race, and the Washington Post will have to write that headline, "Steele Wins", and then eat it....
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1732860/posts
I remember Kerry campaigning in a black church in Florida, with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton behind him..
I also remember him basically telling the people of that congregation not to "worry about my pro-abortion stance"...or something close to that...it made me sick.
Speaking of abortions...
I heard today that the SCOTUS will be hearing the case on partial-birth abortion this week!! It will be the first time they will be hearing a case with the two Bush appointees....everyone PRAY that they come down on the side to outlaw them forever!
GREAT POST...and I had not known about that...
All of this has got to be brought up again and again, as Hillary starts her POTUS campaigning for real, next Wednesday.
Thanks for posting that.
I'll bet Kucinch was stunned - stunned they were caught!
OHIO: Investigation Finds Votes Cast By People Listed As Dead: Rep. Dennis Kucinich stunned
NewsChannel 5 - Ohio - Cleveland ^ | UPDATED: 10:26 am EST November 3, 2006 | Duane Pohlman
Posted on 11/05/2006 2:09:02 PM PST by rface
CLEVELAND -- 5 On Your Side Investigator Duane Pohlman finds that there are several votes being cast by citizens who are dead.
Among thousands of graves at Holy Cross Cemetery, Pohlman found the final resting place of Edward Wisniewski.
John Wisniewski lived next door to his brother for decades.
John Wisniewski said Edward Wisniewski has been buried at the cemetery since 2002. According to an election sign-in sheet, he cast a vote in the May primary.
NNewsChannel5, in partnership with the National Institute for Computer Assisted Reporting, conducted one of the most extensive reviews ever of Cuyahoga County voting records, Pohlman reported. The process involved comparing more than 200,000 voters against death records reported by the Social Security Administration.
U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich was stunned by what NewsChannel5 uncovered.
Pohlman reported the examination of the records revealed Wisniewski is not the only dead voter. In fact, 5 On Your Side uncovered 27 people who are dead, but votes were cast in their name anyway.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1732863/posts
Win or lose you gotta love Steele--simply a great American.
Agreed, I'm sure Kucinch is "shocked"! Yeah, right.
Most of the "lifelong Republicans" who give these little speeches are frothing left wing moonbats in disguise. Every election we hear about the "massive defection of Republicans". Take it with a grain of salt.
Of course some tiny percentage may be genuine but most are not.
I agree about Steele...and I think even if he loses, (I am picking him to win)...he has a bright future in the Republican Party..
In fact, if he loses and Santorum loses, and Allen...those 3 could be some of the best Congresscritters to NOT get to Washington that I can remember...
BUT, luckily, there will be an open GOP POTUS seat in 2008...the possibilities are very interesting.
HOWEVER, I want all three in the Senate, helping Bush in the last two years..
Dead people voting? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!
(I wonder how many times that line has been used on FR. LOL!)
ROTFLMAO!!!! Steele tells Wash ComPost to EAT IT!!!!!!!!
ACK....Chris Wallace brings up Watergate....right off the bat with Boehner...
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