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Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
CNN ^ | Oct. 27, 2006

Posted on 10/27/2006 1:21:48 PM PDT by COUNTrecount

LAWRENCEVILLE, Georgia (AP) -- The trial of an Atlanta-area father accused of circumcising his 2-year-old daughter with scissors is focusing attention on an ancient African practice that experts say is slowly becoming more common in the U.S. as immigrant communities grow.

Khalid Adem, a 30-year-old immigrant from Ethiopia, is charged with aggravated battery and cruelty to children.

Human rights observers said they believe this is the first criminal case in the U.S. involving the 5,000-year-old practice.

Prosecutors say Adem used scissors to remove his daughter's clitoris in their apartment in 2001. The child's mother said she did not discover it until more than a year later.

"He said he wanted to preserve her virginity," Fortunate Adem, the girl's mother, testified this week. "He said it was the will of God. I became angry in my mind. I thought he was crazy."

The girl, now 7, also testified, clutching a teddy bear and saying that her father "cut me on my private part." Adem cried loudly as his daughter left the courtroom.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: childabuse; circumcision; equalrights; humanrights; immigrantlist; islam; khalidadem; multiculturalism; muslims; sexcrimes; sexoffender; snipsnip; stopcircumcision
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Khalid Adem weeps on the witness stand as he testifies Friday at his trial in Gwinnet County, Georgia.

1 posted on 10/27/2006 1:21:49 PM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Animal.

How did the girl's mother miss it for a year? Both of then are unfit to be parents.


2 posted on 10/27/2006 1:24:25 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: COUNTrecount

My husband was watching our local (Atlanta) news yesterday and I walked in when this story was on. He asked me 'How on earth do you circumsize a girl?" I told him. He almost threw and/or cried at the same time.


3 posted on 10/27/2006 1:24:47 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: COUNTrecount

---ah--the "multicultural" society---


4 posted on 10/27/2006 1:24:57 PM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Southerngl

He almost threw and/or cried at the same time.

Pardon me, he almost threw up.


5 posted on 10/27/2006 1:25:13 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: COUNTrecount

Me, me, me!!!!!!
I volunteer!!!

I have some nice rusty scissors that I can use for the castration of this monster!!!!

Pick me! Pick ME!!!!


6 posted on 10/27/2006 1:25:23 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: COUNTrecount
Someone should remove his johnson with a nail clipper.

How did they get him out of his loincloth and into the suit for the picture?

7 posted on 10/27/2006 1:25:34 PM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: COUNTrecount

Someone should chop his nads off and ask him how it feels.


8 posted on 10/27/2006 1:26:41 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: COUNTrecount

This case needs to be widely publicized. I don't guess Ms. Magazine has sent a reporter? Nah.


9 posted on 10/27/2006 1:27:14 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: COUNTrecount

Can we enforce our own laws in our own country?


10 posted on 10/27/2006 1:28:18 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Slump Tester
"...becoming more common in the U.S. as immigrant communities grow..."

Well, there's the root of the problem right there. Perhaps it's time for immigrant communities to SHRINK.

11 posted on 10/27/2006 1:28:52 PM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (There will only be peace on Earth when Mecca becomes a glass parking lot.)
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To: COUNTrecount

This is a practice which is appoved in Islam, but not mandated. I notice no mention of Muslim or Islam in this article. No matter how heinous or ghastly the truth--the MSM will always go PC.


12 posted on 10/27/2006 1:30:10 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: COUNTrecount
Let's play:

DING DING DING - GUESS HIS RELIGION!!!

13 posted on 10/27/2006 1:30:28 PM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: rellimpank

Not that I would expect CNN to be forthright, but I couldn't help but notice that the fellow's name is Khalid,...this isn't a "religion of peace" thing? Is it?


14 posted on 10/27/2006 1:30:44 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them ...well, I have others." -Groucho Marx)
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To: Southerngl

Not wanting to show my ignorance, but I don't understand what female circumcision either and I have been around for over 50 years.


15 posted on 10/27/2006 1:31:24 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: incredulous joe
Not that I would expect CNN to be forthright, but I couldn't help but notice that the fellow's name is Khalid,...this isn't a "religion of peace" thing? Is it?

There's a 99% chance it is, since pretty much anyone who practices it is Muslim.

16 posted on 10/27/2006 1:31:59 PM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: COUNTrecount

This is a practice which is appoved in Islam, but not mandated. I notice no mention of Muslim or Islam in this article. No matter how heinous or ghastly the truth--the MSM will always go PC.


17 posted on 10/27/2006 1:32:30 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: popdonnelly

Face it, they need to go back where they came from. Like all the Islamic laws, they will try to make it legal.

ORIGINS OF FEMALE CIRCUMCISION

The origins of female circumcision are obscure but the practice most likely dates back thousands of years. Herodotus reported that female circumcision took place in ancient Egypt during the fifth century b.c. and there is also evidence that early Romans and Arabs had adopted the practice (for review, see 3). At some uncertain point in history, excision practices became associated with the obsessive preoccupation with virginity and chastity that still characterizes many African and Arab cultures today; this combination resulted in the more radical practice of infibulation (3) (for description of procedures, see Box 1).

http://www.medicine.mcgill.ca/mjm/v05n02/v05p104/v05p104main.htm


18 posted on 10/27/2006 1:34:37 PM PDT by AliVeritas (We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin)
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To: COUNTrecount

Immigrants MUST assimilate into our culture or we're doomed as a country.


19 posted on 10/27/2006 1:34:53 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: COUNTrecount
Human rights observers said they believe this is the first criminal case in the U.S. involving the 5,000-year-old practice.

How quickly Western society forgets...Wasn't there a case in Florida of a mother (Somali or Ethiopian, I think) who did the same thing to her daughter? She was charged and convicted and sentenced to 2 years, AFAIK. Later on, the same judge (in an obvious fit of PC) let off an Arab woman (from SA) who was charged with molestation of her son. It is, common practice for Arab mothers to "soothe" a crying male infant by fondling his genitals. This was also in Florida.

20 posted on 10/27/2006 1:34:56 PM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: popdonnelly

Hopefully we can. Sounds to me like he must have broken about a dozen. Will it be a jury trial? I didn't catch that detail. I would guess a jury would hear the evidence, take the judge's instructions, and return a just verdict.


21 posted on 10/27/2006 1:36:08 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: The Blitherer

Well, I'll take that as confirmation. I don't need to burn a whole lot of calories to connect the dots, it fits the Islam modus operandi.

Disgusting!


22 posted on 10/27/2006 1:36:14 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them ...well, I have others." -Groucho Marx)
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To: COUNTrecount

Paging Lorena Bobbit.


23 posted on 10/27/2006 1:36:20 PM PDT by AliVeritas (We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin)
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To: longhorn too
Not wanting to show my ignorance, but I don't understand what female circumcision either and I have been around for over 50 years.

Wikipedia has a good article on it. There are varying degrees of it but Somalians tend to perform the most severe types.

24 posted on 10/27/2006 1:36:38 PM PDT by burzum (Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)
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To: COUNTrecount; mockingbyrd

The Mother would definitely have known; I can't picture a Muslim man doing the family laundry and there would have been blood.


25 posted on 10/27/2006 1:36:39 PM PDT by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: Mamzelle

Where are the American feminists on this?

Helllloooooo, are there any feminists out there who even care about this two year old child?

Where's NOW? Where's the ACLU? Where's the Defeatocratic Party's Ann Lewis, and Donna Brazzile?

What are they so afraid of?


26 posted on 10/27/2006 1:36:52 PM PDT by kjo
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To: longhorn too
It's crazy to compare this mutilation (which is often crippling and deadly) of little girl babies to male circumcision--it really should not be called so.

The aim of this butchery is to make sexual pleasure impossible for the female, ever. Urination is comromised. It even sex (and childbirth) dangerous because of the poor healing, scarring, and residual infections.

Of course, I'm going deaf with the howls of horror and outrage from the feminists!! (/sarc)

27 posted on 10/27/2006 1:36:56 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: The Blitherer

What is Satanism for 200?


28 posted on 10/27/2006 1:37:32 PM PDT by AliVeritas (We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin)
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To: COUNTrecount

Senator Webb sez:

"I didn't even know two-year-old girls HAD foreskin! All I know about are little boys!"

Ex-senator Foley sez:

"Little boys? Humma humma humma!"


29 posted on 10/27/2006 1:39:07 PM PDT by Silly
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To: Mamzelle

"to make sexual pleasure impossible for the female"

From what I know about Islam the fellows may need no assistance in this area. I'm sure it's not at the top of the list.


30 posted on 10/27/2006 1:39:38 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them ...well, I have others." -Groucho Marx)
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To: Mamzelle
The aim of this butchery is to make sexual pleasure impossible for the female, ever. Urination is comromised. It even sex (and childbirth) dangerous because of the poor healing, scarring, and residual infections.

Exactly. For most practicing Muslims (not including the "moderate" Muslims) the relationship between male and female is one of dominance and submission. Sex is not a mutual act of commitment and pleasure, its a domination of the male over the female. I read an article in the Readers Digest many years ago about a black lady from Somalia (she's a supermodel now-can't remember her name) who survived circumcision. Very compelling story.

31 posted on 10/27/2006 1:41:01 PM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: COUNTrecount

Why should immigrants assimilate into our culture? Because it's the BEST CULTURE IN THE WORLD. Other cultures are not equally valuable. Ours is fair, sane, and moral. Most others are not.


32 posted on 10/27/2006 1:42:11 PM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: burzum

That's horrible!


33 posted on 10/27/2006 1:43:28 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: The Blitherer
Another woman, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a former Dutch MP, had the procedure performed on her. She has spoken out quite fiercely against the practice (and other human rights violations against women in Islamic countries).
34 posted on 10/27/2006 1:43:53 PM PDT by burzum (Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)
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To: COUNTrecount

American parents cannot be notified if their daughter is having an abortion, but an African can perform a common African custom of removing a sex organ. This is a duct tape moment. I bet the libs would side WITH this man.


35 posted on 10/27/2006 1:44:04 PM PDT by Kerretarded (Hey hypoCRATS, POLLS ARE NOT ELECTION RESULTS. GET A CLUE!)
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To: AliVeritas
What is Satanism for 200?

Oh, so close, but we're looking for a slightly different variation of the term "Satanism"...

;-)

36 posted on 10/27/2006 1:44:18 PM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: The Blitherer

"Very compelling story."

How they relate to each other, per the dictates of their religion - if you would call it that - speaks volumes of their relationship to their "god".


37 posted on 10/27/2006 1:45:40 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them ...well, I have others." -Groucho Marx)
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To: burzum
Another woman, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a former Dutch MP, had the procedure performed on her. She has spoken out quite fiercely against the practice (and other human rights violations against women in Islamic countries).

The women who do survive it and manage to escape from that culture usually end up being very strong and inspirational people.

Man, I really wish I could remember the model's name...maybe I'll try to look it up.

38 posted on 10/27/2006 1:46:05 PM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: Sender

The more I think about this story, I have two little girls 3 and 18 months, the more it smells to high heaven.

There is no way the mother didn't know. Was the two year old potty trained, so completely the mother never assited? Not even diapers at night? Did the little girl never bathe? Was she not in pain afterwords, was the mother not the least bit curious? Was there no blood, no bandages?

What mother misses this????????

That poor child deserves so much better.


39 posted on 10/27/2006 1:47:20 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Mamzelle; longhorn too

Good point.

People try to brush off the severity of this crime by comparing it to male circumcision. There can be benefits to male curcumcision, there are no benefits for women.

Depending on what's been done, removed or sewn up, women can die during their period, from toxic shock syndrome. It's amazingly evil.


40 posted on 10/27/2006 1:52:19 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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Here we go: Waris Dirie - really beautiful woman and anti-female circumcision activist...

She has an amazing story.

41 posted on 10/27/2006 1:53:18 PM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: The Blitherer

Voodoo?;)


42 posted on 10/27/2006 1:53:54 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: COUNTrecount
Common CNN, what's the matter, afraid to call this what it is?

It's not an "ancient African practice" It's a practice of the R.O.P. Afraid to say "MUSLIM", CNN? It figures. CNN was afraid to say "Muslim" and point out all the Christian women who were forcibly circumcised by barbaric Muslim animals during the Timor uprising, just as they are still afraid to point out this forced circumcision in other places where MUSLIM uprizings are slaughtering Christians, Hindu's Buddhists, Monks and converting their new slave women into circumcised Muslims with dull kitchen knives.

We won't hold our breath for CNN and other leftist America hating, pro Islam media to report the real news of whats going on in the world, such as Somalia's fundamentalist Muslims preparing to invade and cause another slaughter in Ethiopia. So far, not a word of this in MSM.

For those who haven't heard of this developing news:

Somali Islamists recruit for jihad against Ethiopia

MOGADISHU -- Somali Islamists have begun recruiting thousands of young fighters to fight a jihad against Ethiopia, officials said Wednesday, amid fears of all-out war across the lawless Horn of Africa nation.
A day after claiming to have captured an Ethiopian military officer in fierce weekend battles with a militia allied to Somalia's weak government, the Islamists said that at least 3,000 people had enlisted for combat in the holy war.

43 posted on 10/27/2006 1:56:29 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: The Blitherer

"Satanism"

If I might be allowed a "multicultural" moment; they worship that which is evil. There are many names by which that is called - take yer pick.

Obviously, when they destroy or pervert the gifts our Creator has given us - sexual pleasure being one of the very best and among my personal favorites - it's because they hate Him and the gifts that he bestows upon his children.


44 posted on 10/27/2006 1:56:39 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them ...well, I have others." -Groucho Marx)
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To: longhorn too

You don't want to, especially how the Muzzies do it to their captives.
I was there in 1981 and saw the aftermath of what they had done to all the Christian women while they were beheading their husbends.
Muslims are nothing but barbaric sub-animals. Then they act like victims and lie with a straight face. They are good at it too. Our media hides so much of their crimes against Humanity, as does the UN.


45 posted on 10/27/2006 2:02:02 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: COUNTrecount
Wasn't there a similar episode on Law & Order several years ago?
46 posted on 10/27/2006 2:02:12 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: COUNTrecount

I am not a fan of prison sexual abuse, but in the case of a monster who would use scissors on his 2 year old daughter, I think I would like to see him sharing a cell for the next 50 years with a succession of 300+ lb Aryan Nation weightlifter S&M freak buggerers. Simple castration is too good for this subhuman.


47 posted on 10/27/2006 2:08:44 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Where did you see this in 1981?


48 posted on 10/27/2006 2:09:58 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: COUNTrecount
"All cultures are equal"
"Multiculturalism is a beautiful tapestry"
"Diversity is our Strength"

BULLSHIT.

Western or Far Eastern Culture is SUPERIOR to African or Middle Eastern current "culture".
Multiculturalism leads to pollution of the superior culture.
Assimilation and Allegiance to America is our strength.

Semper Fi

49 posted on 10/27/2006 2:10:05 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Cry me a river. This man should be imprisoned in a cold, hard place and then deported back to his natal hell hole.


50 posted on 10/27/2006 2:10:12 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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