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Outrage as Muslim cleric likens women to 'uncovered meat'
Daily Mail ^ | 26th October 2006 | RICHARD SHEARS

Posted on 10/26/2006 8:01:56 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

A Muslim cleric's claim that women who do not wear the veil are like 'uncovered meat' who attract sexual predators sparked outrage around Australia yesterday.

Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, the nation's most senior Muslim cleric, compared immodestly-dressed women who do not wear the Islamic headdress with meat that is left uncovered in the street and is then eaten by cats.

Politicians including Prime Minister John Howard, community leaders and a large number of Muslims condemned the mufti's comments amid calls that he should be deported to Egypt, his country of origin.

In a Ramadam sermon in a Sydney mosque, Sheik al-Hilali suggested that a group of Muslim men recently jailed for many years for gang rapes were not entirely to blame.

There were women, he said, who 'sway suggestively' and wore make-up and immodest dress "and then you get a judge without mercy and gives you 65 years. But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he said, referring to the women victims.

Addressing 500 worshippers on the topic of adultery, Sheik al-Hilali added: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it..whose fault is it - the cats or the uncovered meat?

"The uncovered meat is the problem."

He went on: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab (veil), no problem would have occurred."

Women, he said, were 'weapons' used by Satan to control men.

His comments, reported yesterday in the nationally-circulated newspaper The Australian, created a storm of outrage.

It follows anger that erupted among Muslims in Britain earlier this month when MP Jack Straw said women who wear veils over their face can make community relations harder.

But Sheik al-Hilali's has created an even bigger storm by using the uncovered meat example to accuse women who do not cover their heads and faces of tempting men.

Prime Minister Howard labelled the mufti's comments as 'appalling and reprehensible', adding: "They are quite out of touch with contemporary values in Australia.

"The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous. I not only reject the comments, I condemn them unconditionally." Treasurer Peter Costello urged the Muslim community to condemn the comments and take action against the Sheik.

"If you have a significant religious leader like this preaching to a flock in a situation where we've had gang rapes, in a way that seems to make it justifiable, or at least lighten the dehumanising and degrading extent of the offence."

A close associate of the sheik, Keysar Trad, said the speech was about adultery, not rape. "He wasn't talking about standard norms of dress in Australia or any country, he wasn't talking about the hijab, he was talking about people who engage in extramarital sex."

But Federal Sex Discrimination Commissioner Miss Pru Goward said there could be no backtracking over the comments. "He could be guilty of incitement to the crime of rape and should be deported," she said.


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Controversial: Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali

Covered meat.


1 posted on 10/26/2006 8:01:57 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

And immoral gunpowder is responsible for all the shootings by Muslim men, I suppose.


2 posted on 10/26/2006 8:04:19 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Hair on his palms.


3 posted on 10/26/2006 8:04:38 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: COUNTrecount

NO no no, you don't understand....WE don't GET to be 'outraged' and 'angry'....only the Muslims do.


4 posted on 10/26/2006 8:04:55 AM PDT by digger48
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To: COUNTrecount

Send these stone-age freaks back to where they came from. And keep them there.


5 posted on 10/26/2006 8:06:19 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: COUNTrecount
A Muslim cleric's claim that women who do not wear the veil are like 'uncovered meat' who attract sexual predators sparked outrage around Australia yesterday.

Some creeps just need such a beating...

6 posted on 10/26/2006 8:06:41 AM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: COUNTrecount

7 posted on 10/26/2006 8:06:57 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (You can do that, and be a whack-job pedophile on meth.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Of course, it's the women's fault and not the sicko sexual predators' fault.


8 posted on 10/26/2006 8:07:29 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Izzy Dunne

If an American conservative had said that the NOW nags would be all angry flitting around on their brooms cursing and condemning him.
A member of the ideology of death and destruction says it and not a word from the nags.


9 posted on 10/26/2006 8:07:32 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Jihadism: destroy Western Civilization and replace it with sharia)
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To: COUNTrecount

I guess the real question is: Prime Rib or Rump Roast?


10 posted on 10/26/2006 8:07:36 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Ok...I am waiting for the "moderate Muslims" to demonstrate in outrage!

(hmmmmm...its very quiet)


11 posted on 10/26/2006 8:07:46 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....what's that?)
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To: COUNTrecount

In the West, Sheik, you have the right to be stupid.


12 posted on 10/26/2006 8:08:08 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: COUNTrecount

This "outraged American father of two beautiful daughters and husband of a wonderful woman, all of whom will die fighting before they ever put that raghead sh*t on their bodies" , likens muzzie clerics to steaming piles of poop.


13 posted on 10/26/2006 8:08:10 AM PDT by yooling (I don't have anything nice to say...)
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To: COUNTrecount

Posted here as well.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726179/posts


14 posted on 10/26/2006 8:08:25 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: theDentist
I guess the real question is: Prime Rib or Rump Roast?

As long as it's not Chuck.

15 posted on 10/26/2006 8:08:53 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Some people ask for rape and others ask to get themselves killed.

(Yes, I'm talking to you, Sheik-boy.)


16 posted on 10/26/2006 8:09:22 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: LongElegantLegs

You take those Muslim men out of their sandbox countries, and they just can't control themselves.


17 posted on 10/26/2006 8:09:25 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: COUNTrecount

This is the fifth post I've seen on this subject. Any chance of aggregating the threads?


18 posted on 10/26/2006 8:09:47 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: COUNTrecount

What an idiot. He would be the Muslim equivalent of Pat Robertson if only his views were not already the norm for the Islamic world.


19 posted on 10/26/2006 8:09:50 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The end times are nigh! Repent and die!)
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To: EagleUSA
Prime Minister Howard labelled the mufti's comments as 'appalling and reprehensible', adding: "They are quite out of touch with contemporary values in Australia.

All of Islam is out of touch with any country's values.

20 posted on 10/26/2006 8:11:07 AM PDT by rocksblues (Do onto others as they do unto you!)
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To: theDentist
I guess the real question is: Prime Rib or Rump Roast?

I'm a breast man.


21 posted on 10/26/2006 8:12:07 AM PDT by Toby06
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To: Froufrou

22 posted on 10/26/2006 8:12:25 AM PDT by dubie
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To: COUNTrecount

His simple message: Muslim men are feral animals


23 posted on 10/26/2006 8:12:27 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: rocksblues

All of Islam is out of touch with any country's values.
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I envy the Aussies. They have a President with the guts to stand up and call these maggots what they are.


24 posted on 10/26/2006 8:13:14 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: COUNTrecount

If these garbage creatures feel confident enough to speak publicly about the nonmoslem victims of moslem rapists in this manner, what are they saying in the privacy of their mosques? Are they actively encouraging their "youths" to rape nonmoslem women ?


25 posted on 10/26/2006 8:14:08 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: COUNTrecount
Cats have brains the sizes of walnuts and are largely creatures of instinct, not intellect (I say this as someone who currently has 6 of the critters living in his house). Does this guy really want to be comparing Muslim men with cats?
26 posted on 10/26/2006 8:14:58 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: LongElegantLegs

Damn straight. The more uncovered, the better!


27 posted on 10/26/2006 8:15:44 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: COUNTrecount
"....Women, he said, were 'weapons' used by Satan to control men......"

He must have went through a very nasty divorce.....

28 posted on 10/26/2006 8:18:48 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: COUNTrecount

Australian feminist whacko Germaine Greer wrote a despicable little piece for the London Guardian (she allegedly "teaches" in the UK) about the death of Steve Irwin.

Where is Greer's voice on the ongoing and reprehensible behavior of Australian Muslims toward every female on the continent, be they spouses or strangers or beachgoers or even of the ilk of Greer herself?


29 posted on 10/26/2006 8:22:33 AM PDT by angkor
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To: COUNTrecount

30 posted on 10/26/2006 8:23:05 AM PDT by Fighting Irish (Béagán agus a rá go maith)
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To: COUNTrecount

The other white meat.


31 posted on 10/26/2006 8:28:30 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Demonrats vote on Nov. 8th. Pass it on.)
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To: dubie

~snorrfle!!!~ Good one!


32 posted on 10/26/2006 8:31:11 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: EagleUSA

"Stone age freaks" is spot on.


33 posted on 10/26/2006 8:32:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: COUNTrecount

"Is that A-1 behind your ears? Yum!" Wild & crazy moose-limb swinging pick-up line


34 posted on 10/26/2006 8:36:48 AM PDT by tumblindice (Let me say this about that . . . who's on first. What?)
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To: Izzy Dunne

So if they can have a dress code stating that any female not wearing a hajib can be raped, can we have one that says anyone in a turbin can be shot?


35 posted on 10/26/2006 8:37:17 AM PDT by BadAndy (You want a magic bullet to fix your problem, but I only have hollowpoints.)
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To: COUNTrecount
If you take out uncovered meat and the cats come and eat it.whose fault is it - the cats or the uncovered meat?

The problem with this analogy, Sheik, is that cats are 'animals' and so they act like animals. In western culture, unlike the racist and sexist world of Islam, when men treat women like animals they are caged like animals in jail. Mohammad never was quite able to grasp this concept. Go back to Egypt where your twisted logic is accepted as wisdom.

36 posted on 10/26/2006 8:38:32 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Ok...I am waiting for the "moderate Muslims" to demonstrate in outrage! (hmmmmm...its very quiet)

Read very carefully. Paragraph 3:
Politicians including Prime Minister John Howard, community leaders and a large number of Muslims condemned the mufti's comments amid calls that he should be deported to Egypt, his country of origin.

While not technically Demonstrating in outrage, it is a start.

I'm with them. Punt him back to Egypt.

37 posted on 10/26/2006 8:40:38 AM PDT by BoneHead (Keep Digging! Keep Digging!)
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To: COUNTrecount
NO WAY! He was misunderstood. I know moderate Muslims would never ever preach that.
38 posted on 10/26/2006 8:41:16 AM PDT by zek157
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To: COUNTrecount
"He could be guilty of incitement to the crime of rape and should be deported,"

In a more civilized era, he would have been beaten to death already.

39 posted on 10/26/2006 8:43:40 AM PDT by montag813
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To: COUNTrecount

Thank goodness the Aussies have the stones to stand up to this muzzie nonsense. I wish some American pols would make similar comments. I am fed up with muslims.


40 posted on 10/26/2006 8:45:07 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: COUNTrecount
Addressing 500 worshippers on the topic of adultery, Sheik al-Hilali added: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it..whose fault is it - the cats or the uncovered meat?

"The uncovered meat is the problem."

I'm glad he spelled it out at the end because I had no idea where he was going with that, and I was even confused a little. Not the best allegory ever! I was ready to blame it on the help (and it's just the sort of thing they would do) for leaving out the uncovered meat when he took a little pity on all of us who were scratching our heads and he gave us the answer. Although the story might make a little more sense if we just blamed it on the houseboy. It makes more sense to flog the houseboy than a plate of uncovered meat.

Every last one of these f***sticks talks as though he's writing the next chapter of the Koran. Got to make sure it sounds scriptural and all that. Put it a lot of metaphors like Mohammad used to do. Stitch together a real smart proverb built of disparate parts and hope it makes sense at the end. If it does? Great! People will remember the Mufti Al-Shabazz or whatever because he came up with the whipping-the-donkey-with-a-snake allegory that teaches us...what? Oh right...that any pleasure during this existance is decadent and sinful. That seems to be the punchline of all these ridiculous "morals."

Blaming an inanimate plate of meat? If I was inclined to read as far into this guy's story as possible, I could take a great deal out about this fellow's perspective on women and the treatment of women. And because I don't trust him and know he would delight at taking my head, I'll read all the way in, and express the degree to which I despise him with ridicule.

41 posted on 10/26/2006 8:46:59 AM PDT by Virulas
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To: Izzy Dunne

In other words, women who are not covered, are a threat to Muslim men because they are truly liberated folks, the uncovered women.


42 posted on 10/26/2006 8:52:13 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Hmm, I think if we air dropped 100,000 Playboy mags over Baghdad we could probably win the hearts and souls of those sexually frustrated muslim men. I mean really, compare a smelly, hairy, mullah to a hot woman...who you gonna follow?


43 posted on 10/26/2006 8:53:32 AM PDT by Paco
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To: COUNTrecount
Women, he said, were 'weapons' used by Satan to control men.

This statement is the "dirty little secret" that explains the "snakes in the heads" of Islamic men. I've seen the same thing in a few "Christian" men as well. This belief puts men in such a deep mental conflict that it makes them crazy.

44 posted on 10/26/2006 9:18:28 AM PDT by badbass
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To: COUNTrecount
whose fault is it - the cats or the uncovered meat?

So there you have it. Muslim men have no more self-control than a feral cat.

45 posted on 10/26/2006 9:18:31 AM PDT by ikka
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To: Fighting Irish

What, no sheep?


46 posted on 10/26/2006 9:24:12 AM PDT by Nevermore
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To: COUNTrecount
He went on: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab (veil), no problem would have occurred."

using the twisted thing called muslim-logic, the real root of this problem is simple.

If the muslim men were not in the country, the rapes would not have ocurred. Furthermore, if islam did not exist then the rapes would not have existed.

hey.. i like this mulsim-logic... if islam didn't exist, then 9-11 wouldn't have happened. Therefore, islam can no longer be allowed to exist.

47 posted on 10/26/2006 9:34:37 AM PDT by sten
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When we lived in So Cal, in the eighties, there was an article in the LA Times, warning about the alarming increase in date rape cases, mostly perpetrated by Middle Eastern male students against white women. The article explained that the Middle Eastern men thought there was nothing wrong in raping a white woman because she was asking for it by the way she dressed and behaved. The article said that it was a cultural thing.


48 posted on 10/26/2006 9:45:16 AM PDT by Eva
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You know...I was thinking the same thing...Islamic dudes must not have to face much action in divorce court...no real attorney action...no pay-off to the wife. It would seem like every woman on the face of the earth would figure this deal out and work to bring Islam to an end.


49 posted on 10/26/2006 9:52:40 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: LongElegantLegs

I don't see any flies on them!

If I could find a picture of Gene Wilder with Daisy the sheep (suitably "clothed", of course) I'd post it :)


50 posted on 10/26/2006 10:00:29 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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