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5 deaths blamed on swollen river Drowning victims thought to be illegal immigrants [Texas]
Valley Morning Star/AP ^ | Oct 25, 2006 | LYNN BREZOSKY

Posted on 10/25/2006 11:07:17 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

HARLINGEN - Five bodies pulled from the Rio Grande are believed to be illegal immigrants who probably drowned while trying to cross into the United States through currents unusually turgid from recent rain, authorities said Tuesday.

The bodies of four men and one woman were recovered Monday evening, after a Mexican fisherman spotted them and notified U.S. authorities.

The bodies, found in a rural area below a dam about 65 miles west of McAllen, were decomposed and could have been dead for a week, said Carlos Delgado, an investigator for the Starr County district attorney's office.

Autopsies were to be conducted Tuesday, but Delgado said there was no indication of foul play.

"At this time it does not appear to be anything other than a drowning," he said.

Delgado said the bodies were fully dressed and wearing shoes, which could indicate a small boat or raft was being used for the crossing but overturned and got lost in the currents. No boat was recovered.

Immigrants planning to wade across usually undress and carry their clothing in a plastic bag.

None of the bodies had been identified Tuesday morning, but Delgado said the autopsy could turn up documentation. Mexican authorities have been notified.

The most recent Border Patrol statistics show 38 drownings from the Border Patrol's El Paso to Rio Grande Valley sectors between Oct. 1, 2005, and Sept. 15.

The river's calm surface is notoriously deceiving, and illegal immigrants drown trying to cross each year, said Todd Fraser of U.S. Customs and Border Protection in Washington, D.C.

"What seemingly looks like calm, tranquil waters can be very deadly," he said. "I think that part of the process of educating people on both sides of the border that the waters are very dangerous is also letting them know that the people most likely telling them 'Hey, you can make it across,' are smugglers who are making money off people's suffering."

In September 2004, two Border Patrol agents drowned after their boat capsized while they were patrolling the river.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; mexico; riogrande
"I think that part of the process of educating people on both sides of the border that the waters are very dangerous is also letting them know that the people most likely telling them 'Hey, you can make it across,' are smugglers who are making money off people's suffering."

How about "Hey, it's illegal!"

1 posted on 10/25/2006 11:07:20 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

"unusually turgid"
Hmmm


2 posted on 10/25/2006 11:09:50 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: SwinneySwitch

Bush's fault!


3 posted on 10/25/2006 11:14:01 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Rakkasan1

Maybe they were Americans trying to reach Mexico


4 posted on 10/25/2006 11:15:27 AM PDT by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between the terrorists and the Democrats)
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To: SwinneySwitch

5 posted on 10/25/2006 11:18:03 AM PDT by dubie
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To: dubie

Why did they notify US authorities???? So they can get a Social Security settlement..?


6 posted on 10/25/2006 11:19:58 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


7 posted on 10/25/2006 11:20:23 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: SwinneySwitch

Wetbacks??


8 posted on 10/25/2006 11:21:53 AM PDT by Waco
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To: SwinneySwitch

Sadly, this is only news because 5 drowned at once. If you've lived along the border you know that these are a common occurance, but usually only one at a time.

I have watched them float across with my own eyes. They strip to their underwear, carefully pack their clothes in a plastic bag. Then they tie a length of rope between two empty gallon milk jugs to use as a life preserver. They tie the plastic bag to another length of rope and tie that around their leg or waist to pull behind them. When they get to the US side they stash the ropes, jugs and plastic bag in the bushes and get dressed. Then they walk away unless the BP was also watching. This is in broad daylight.


9 posted on 10/25/2006 11:25:50 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: SwinneySwitch
I said this yesterday. Illegals/wet backs don't know how to swim...we've had lots of rain lately and the Rio is way up...any time the Rio is up you'll find lots of dead wet backs. This has gone on for many yrs, it's just lately being reported on a national level.

We'll we now hear of inflatables on the mexican side of the border for the wet backs?

10 posted on 10/25/2006 11:27:14 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Youngman442002

The bodies were on the US side of the river.


11 posted on 10/25/2006 11:30:50 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

The Rio Grande river is just doing the work the hacks in DC are too lazy and unwilling to do


12 posted on 10/25/2006 11:32:04 AM PDT by dennisw (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
The bodies were on the US side of the river.

IOW more illegal aliens expenses shoved over onto the taxpayers. Mexicans say "Let the rich stupid Gringos pay for it"

13 posted on 10/25/2006 11:35:01 AM PDT by dennisw (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
.......Drowning victims thought to be illegal immigrants.

No way!!! You must be joking!
14 posted on 10/25/2006 11:37:31 AM PDT by dennisw (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

little sympathy, if they'd come here legally they'd still be alive.


15 posted on 10/25/2006 11:37:32 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Rain?! TX got rain?!! Cool!! Bout time.


16 posted on 10/25/2006 11:41:12 AM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Maybe Lynn got confused with the bodies being turgid?


17 posted on 10/25/2006 11:42:36 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!!)
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To: Joe Boucher
little sympathy, if they'd come here legally they'd still be alive.

If anyone should feel guilty, it's the soft-headed do-gooders and the corrupt employers who encourage illegals to come here. These deaths are to be blamed on the likes of the Catholic Church, the US Chamber of Commerce, Ted Kennedy, John McCain, and all the others who give poor Latin Americans the hope of a better life if they can just make it across the border.

18 posted on 10/25/2006 11:45:42 AM PDT by AppleButter
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To: CAWats

yep. high demand for cheap, sequined sombreros.


19 posted on 10/25/2006 11:48:21 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: SwinneySwitch

Just immigrants feeding the fish that American workers won't feed...


20 posted on 10/25/2006 12:00:43 PM PDT by Syntyr (Food for the NSA Line Eater -> "terrorist" "bomb" "plot" "kill" "overthrow" "coup de tas")
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To: shield

More victims of the prolonged drought.


21 posted on 10/25/2006 12:07:36 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: AppleButter

Ya know any job is better then no job. Wherever these folks came from must relly be bad. No jobs, no hope.
They come here and send back most all they earn to make it that their families can live. Whose fault is all that?
The leaders of wherever they came from.


22 posted on 10/25/2006 12:15:24 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Yep. One of the definitions of "turgid" in Webster's Seventh Neww Collegiate Dictionary is "SWOLLEN, TUMID." Tumid, in turn, means "SWOLLEN, ENLARGED." Looks like the reporter got thatone right.
23 posted on 10/25/2006 12:20:03 PM PDT by libstripper (!!)
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To: libstripper

tumescent: adjective, `Filled up with or as if with something insubstantial: flatulent, inflated, overblown, tumid, turgid, windy.'
This thread is starting to read like a Harlequin novel....


24 posted on 10/25/2006 12:30:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (but what's its refractory period?)
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To: SwinneySwitch
A week or so ago it was posted on FR that they pulled out a 6 foot crocodile out of Rio Grande and placed it in animal shelter on the mexican side. As it was our Border Guard crocodile, we should lodge a protest and demand that they immediately put it back in.
25 posted on 10/25/2006 2:13:20 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Waco

Carefull now......... the LIBS don't like Americans refering to criminals as wet-backs. (it affects their self-esteme)


26 posted on 10/25/2006 2:18:22 PM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: Old Professer
Texas is a huge state drought in some parts, however, the Rio runs toward the Gulf from New Mexico...lots of rain in the region of El Paso...lots of flooding...that creates a flooding Rio...on top of that, the Rio moves fast in the area of the drowned wet backs. Mexico calls the Rio Grande Rio Bravo=fierce river...My grandparents lived in the valley yrs ago...drown wetbacks was a common occurance...
27 posted on 10/26/2006 9:19:04 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Joe Boucher; All

Mexican consular officials in McAllen said that five immigrants found drowned on the Rio Grande bank in Starr County this week were believed to be Guatemalan because of the currency found in their pockets.


28 posted on 10/28/2006 7:13:31 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

They were not immigrants, they were ILLEGAL immigrants.
There is a big f-ing difference.
And I don't give a damn if they were Guats. Mexican, or British, Illegal is illegal.
Round all 10 or15 million illegals up and throw them out.


29 posted on 10/28/2006 9:24:26 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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