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'Today': Wave Of Iraqi Violence Attempt To Influence US Elections
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/19/2006 5:17:11 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

There was a stunning bit of candor from NBC reporter Richard Engel at the end of his report on this morning's 'Today' on the situation in Iraq:

Speaking with US soliders, Engel reported:

"They believe insurgents are intensifying attacks against US soldiers to influence November's mid-term elections."

Shouldn't it give Americans pause to consider that in the eyes of our men on the ground, our enemy wants to see the Democrats take power?

Perhaps George Soros will sponsor a new MTV series: 'Rocket-Grenade The Vote'.

Finkelstein lives in the liberal haven of Ithaca, NY. Webcasts and podcasts of Mark's award-winning TV show 'Right Angle' available here. Contact Mark at mark@gunhill.net


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; richardengel; todayshow; violence

1 posted on 10/19/2006 5:17:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Today Show/NewsBusters terrorists-for-Pelosi ping.


2 posted on 10/19/2006 5:17:50 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Wow... It doesn't get much more blatant does it?


3 posted on 10/19/2006 5:19:11 AM PDT by jurroppi1 ("You can lead a man to Congress, but you can't make him think." - Milton Berle)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Isn't it interesting that the terrorists want the Democrats to be elected. Perhaps the MSM should do a story on that....ya..sure.


4 posted on 10/19/2006 5:19:18 AM PDT by when the time is right
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To: when the time is right
Isn't it interesting that the terrorists want the Democrats to be elected. Perhaps the MSM should do a story on that....ya..sure.

The stunning thing is that Engel effectively just did!

5 posted on 10/19/2006 5:20:12 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The media can't spin the failure of this modern day Tet offensive as this communist, did back in 1968
6 posted on 10/19/2006 5:20:48 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Shouldn't it give Americans pause to consider that in the eyes of our men on the ground, our enemy wants to see the Democrats take power?

One would think....

7 posted on 10/19/2006 5:21:38 AM PDT by demkicker (democrats, terrorists, Powell, McCain, Graham & Collins are intimate bedfellows)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The stunning thing is that Engel effectively just did!

I confess I am pretty amazed. I wonder if he fully realized what he was saying.

8 posted on 10/19/2006 5:24:40 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: Bahbah

My guess is .. nope


9 posted on 10/19/2006 5:25:57 AM PDT by Mo1 (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - BECOME A MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The enemies take notice of our dinosaur media...and use it to their advantage. CNN has an insurgent video out, hsowing how snipers are teargeting our troops. Of course they say "although the nature of the video is disturbing, we feel it must be shown". Honestly, sometimes I don't think they have a brain in their head.


10 posted on 10/19/2006 5:26:10 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The DNC's GOTV campaign is getting a boost from Islamic terrorists? I guess this how the terrorists show gratitude for Pelosi's, Reid's, and Murtha's "Retreat in Defeat" initiative.

That's one group the Republicans would never accept help from. I guess the Democratic Party truly has the bigger tent.

11 posted on 10/19/2006 5:26:20 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: demkicker

" One would think.... "

Well, just *stop* it!!

"Thinking" is one of the proscribed activities while watching MSM "News".

Your proper role is to mindlessly accept the predigested opinion-masquerading-as-news, and then dutifully go vote Democrat.


12 posted on 10/19/2006 5:29:11 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Stop the "tyranny of the 'offended' " -- say what you mean and stand by it!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

You mean they let some of the truth slip out of the MSM? Wonders never cease!


13 posted on 10/19/2006 5:29:42 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The troops are far more savvy than many people realize. War is always about politics. But some people, mostly Democrats, think it's always about other things, like poverty or Gay Rights or something else is motivating our enemies.

Just as we want a stable and preferably free and democratic Iraq for political reasons, the "insurgents" want chaos now for political reasons. The illusion of a civil war is propaganda by deed that the toppling of Saddam was a failure. So in an impotent rage they murder civilians in mass numbers and get the attention from the MSM to spread their image of ruthless success. These evil plotters know Americans are historically impatient. They know many Americans buy into the myth that insurgencies cannot be defeated, fed by wrong-headed readings of the American Revolution and the Vietnam War. They also know isolationism is a strong if latent elixir that Americans like to fall back on when things become difficult. They don't know how bullheaded George W. Bush is.

14 posted on 10/19/2006 5:30:52 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Jimmy Carter says out loud what most Liberals only say in their homes.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

One thing the socialists in this country have with the terrorists is they both seek the destruction of Democracy. The difference is the terrorists wish to do so with violence while the socialists want to do it through the political process.


15 posted on 10/19/2006 5:34:54 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"They believe insurgents are intensifying attacks against US soldiers to influence November's mid-term elections."

Our brave men and women on the ground know the score:

DemocRAT win 7 Nov = Victory for terrorists

It's up to us to see to it that never comes to pass.

We owe it to our men and women in uniform...past, present and future.

16 posted on 10/19/2006 5:36:51 AM PDT by Rivendell ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it " - Pope John Paul II 1920 -- 2005)
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To: Rivendell

So the media admit the terrorists want to elect Democrats! And with this in mind, a majority of Americans, if you believe polls, are inclined to go along. I sometimes wonder if this country isn't all through.


17 posted on 10/19/2006 5:38:37 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Rivendell

"DemocRAT win 7 Nov = Victory for terrorists"

God forbid, but the ensuing "happy fire" in Baghdad should provide our forces with a local intelligence bonanza.


18 posted on 10/19/2006 5:40:25 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: Man50D
The difference is the terrorists wish to do so with violence while the socialists want to do it through the political process corrupting the political and judicial processes.

Fixed it.

19 posted on 10/19/2006 5:41:13 AM PDT by pgyanke (We can't share the blessings of peace with those for whom violence is holy imperative. -andy58-in-nh)
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To: jurroppi1
Wow... It doesn't get much more blatant does it?

I agree.

20 posted on 10/19/2006 5:43:11 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: TNCMAXQ
I have to be honest, I was really getting frustrated with all the "polls" showing a huge sudden shift to the RATs, but the more I learned about these so called "polls" the more I realized it is all part of the DBM wing of the DNC's all out push to get the RATs back in power.

It is my firm belief that Americans in general are no where near as dumb and gullible as the RATs want to believe.

All we can do is our part and get out and vote and make sure we prove these lying, sniveling $%$#$#s wrong!

21 posted on 10/19/2006 5:50:16 AM PDT by Rivendell ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it " - Pope John Paul II 1920 -- 2005)
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To: Thrownatbirth
God forbid, but the ensuing "happy fire" in Baghdad should provide our forces with a local intelligence bonanza.

Not to mention a target rich environment...

22 posted on 10/19/2006 5:51:40 AM PDT by Rivendell ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it " - Pope John Paul II 1920 -- 2005)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

CNN just reported the same. I guess since the MSM wants to help the terrorist influence the elections and try to make this into another Vietnam, which it's not, the only option anyone really has is to stay away from the companies that advertise with them.


23 posted on 10/19/2006 6:02:28 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Boy, nothing gets by the "Today" Show!


24 posted on 10/19/2006 6:04:36 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Wave Of Iraqi Violence Attempt To Influence US Elections --

Wave of Democrat Propaganda Attempts To Influence Iraqi Violence

25 posted on 10/19/2006 6:28:13 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( Either hold your nose a little on Election Day ......... or grab your ankles for the next years)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Shouldn't it give Americans pause to consider that in the eyes of our men on the ground, our enemy wants to see the Democrats take power?

Hope this wasn't a signal for Democrats to try and mess with military absentee votes like they did in '00 and '04!

26 posted on 10/19/2006 6:42:38 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
IMHO I feel that all the dems and conservatives for dems have aided the terrorists with their talk of our Nation being in poor shape IE: economy; housing market; budget; etc.

The terrorists feel that if they kill more and more, the people of America will elect the dems and conservatives for dems and help them to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
27 posted on 10/19/2006 6:44:37 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This was entirely predictable, and I suspect the U.S. military leadership anticipated a upswing in U.S. casualties in the weeks leading up to November election.
28 posted on 10/19/2006 6:46:56 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Did the reporters discuss the soldiers accusation?
The record clearly shows the enemy increase their attacks when we have an election campaign.

They do so to affect our elections.

Us Casualties (combined wounded and killed) in Iraq compared for election and off-election years:

Aug-03 216 Sep-03 278 Oct-03 457 Nov-03 418

Aug-04 961 Sep-04 787 Oct-04 711 Nov-04 1566

Aug-05 626 Sep-05 594 Oct-05 701 Nov-05 483

Aug-06 647 Sep-06 847

http://icasualties.org/oif/


29 posted on 10/19/2006 6:51:32 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith

No, Engel and the hosts back in the studio let the soldiers' comments stand. I'd say that amounted to tacit consent. Pretty stunning.


30 posted on 10/19/2006 6:53:22 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: Uncle Ike

Kinda like in the army.

Trainee: "But I thought..."

Drill Sergeant: "You ain't paid to think. Drop and give me 20."


31 posted on 10/19/2006 7:01:53 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Okay...the terrorists have TOLD us they are going to go after Americans...and they are very savvy to our elections..

NOW, I consider ANY of the Americans that have died, and will die in Iraq and Afghanistan up till now and until election day....(this election season)...to be partly the fault of the DEMS AND RINOS!!!!

IF, we had a UNITED country and Congress behind the war, and the GOAL of WINNING....they wouldn't be able to USE the deaths of our troops to sway the voters...

But, instead NO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...


32 posted on 10/19/2006 8:17:18 AM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME--You need FR, you know you do, so please don't forget to donate!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Mentioned by Rush.


33 posted on 10/19/2006 9:41:39 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: All

Rush just played the clip of Engel's quote appearing here, along with a clip of a CNN reporter making similar point.


34 posted on 10/19/2006 9:44:16 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: mrsmith

Thanks for mentioning!


35 posted on 10/19/2006 12:35:36 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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