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What's up, doc? Move to create human-rabbit embryos[UK]
Scotsman ^ | 0ct 06 2006 | Scotsman

Posted on 10/10/2006 6:37:28 AM PDT by MrNationalist

SCIENTISTS are poised to press ahead with controversial plans to create hybrid human and rabbit embryos.

It emerged yesterday that three British teams - including one led by Professor Ian Wilmut at Edinburgh University - are due this month to seek licences from the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority allowing them to create embryos that are 99.9 per cent human and 0.1 per cent rabbit.

The scientists are also looking at the possibility of creating similar "chimera" embryos by mixing human and cow genes. The aim is to find a ready source of "human" embryonic stem cells without the ethical problems of tampering with human life.

Making the chimeras would involve removing the nuclei from animal eggs and replacing them with genetic material taken from human cells.

The embryos would be mostly human, but would contain animal genes as there are genes outside the nucleus that sit within tiny rod-like powerplants in the cell called mitochondria. These structures, which supply energy, would remain in the animal eggs after the nuclear transfer of human DNA.

Professor Stephen Minger, of King's College London, who leads one of the groups, wants to use stem cells extracted from the embryos to investigate human neurological diseases.

"The idea is to gain information that we can't get from animal models," he said."We want to create tools we can use in academic and pharmaceutical research. We want to create disease-specific cell lines - predominantly neurological disorders with a known genetic basis, such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease. It could lead to new therapies."

The team being led by Prof Wilmut is also looking at neurological conditions.

While at the Roslin Institute in Edinburgh, Prof Wilmut was in charge of the research that produced Dolly the sheep, the first mammal to be cloned from an adult cell.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Philosophy; Unclassified; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; embryo; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; hughhefner; human; playboy; rabbit; transgenics
Man, talking about playing God.

I don't think this is a wise thing. God destroyed the Earth for being Genetically altered(Fallen Ones breeding with Women) before.

'create embryos that are 99.9 per cent human and 0.1 per cent rabbit.'

If they are 0.1 per cent rabbit, are they still human?

1 posted on 10/10/2006 6:37:29 AM PDT by MrNationalist
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To: MrNationalist

Hey look what a little frog DNA did to the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park.


2 posted on 10/10/2006 6:45:30 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: MrNationalist

God destroyed the earth why? What are fallen ones?


3 posted on 10/10/2006 6:47:39 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/toilet_obsession.html)
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To: MrNationalist

Can't eat rabbits anymore people....that would be cannibalism.


4 posted on 10/10/2006 6:48:26 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/toilet_obsession.html)
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To: MrNationalist
."We want to create tools we can use..."

Hitler would be proud - and Mengele jealous

How long will God suffer these monsters ...

5 posted on 10/10/2006 7:15:51 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: Fawn

Gen. 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The only way then for Satan to avoid this predicted defeat was to corrupt the pure Adamite line so that the coming of the seed of the woman into the world would be make impossible. This, he tried to accomplish by sending some of his fallen angels to marry the daughters of men as in,

Gen. 6:1-4
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they choose.
And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

. . .and producing the giant nations through them.

There are two such eruptions of fallen angels taught in Gen. 6:4: There were giants in the earth in those days (before the flood); and also after that (after the flood), when the sons of God (fallen angels) came in unto the daughters of men (any daughters of men -- Cain, Seth and others), and they bare children to them (to the angels).

Satan almost succeeded in his plan during the first eruption, for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth; and of all the multitudes Noah and his sons were the only pure Adamites left to be preserved by the ark.

Gen. 6:8-13
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

1 Pet. 3:19-20
By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

The main object of the flood was to do away with all this satanic corruption, destroy the giants, and preserve the pure Adamite stock to as to make good the guarantee of the coming of the seed of the woman, as in the plan of God.


6 posted on 10/10/2006 7:24:59 AM PDT by MrNationalist (Isaiah 6:8)
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To: wagglebee

I plan to do some pingifying later today. Or you might get to this one.

Can you imagine being the kind of person who thinks this is a laudable activity? I just can't imagine what goes on inside their heads.

They have hell inside their heads.


7 posted on 10/10/2006 7:29:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: MrNationalist; NYer; Salvation
The embryos would be mostly human, but would contain animal genes as there are genes outside the nucleus that sit within tiny rod-like powerplants in the cell called mitochondria. These structures, which supply energy, would remain in the animal eggs after the nuclear transfer of human DNA.

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Yikes.

8 posted on 10/10/2006 7:31:56 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MrNationalist
SCIENTISTS are poised to press ahead with controversial plans to create hybrid human and rabbit embryos.

Part human, part rabbit. That would be a democrat right ?

9 posted on 10/10/2006 7:33:05 AM PDT by oldbrowser (ACLU, communism is the ultimate goal.)
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To: MrNationalist

The population folks won't like it....humans who literally breed like rabbits!


10 posted on 10/10/2006 7:36:52 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: MrNationalist

A move backed and sponsored by the Carrot Growers' Association of America. On the plus side, it would eliminate the problem of population growth and cut expenses for public housing, since millions would be living underground and in rocky warrens.


11 posted on 10/10/2006 7:46:05 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: MrNationalist

"Making the chimeras would involve removing the nuclei from animal eggs and replacing them with genetic material taken from human cells. "

This sounds like the cells are not from human embryos. The genetic material could be from umbilical cord or adult stem cells. For all of those here who support adult stem cell research, would you support this research since no human embryo is destroyed?


12 posted on 10/10/2006 8:08:33 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: MrNationalist

Now I can't get the Bugs Bunny carton out of my head..the one where he is being chased by the mad scientist afte inhaling 'ether' vapors...Come back little raaaaabbit


13 posted on 10/10/2006 8:42:31 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: MrNationalist

14 posted on 10/10/2006 8:46:29 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: MrNationalist

This is wrong, just wrong. I don't care how they justify it.


15 posted on 10/10/2006 9:40:53 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: MrNationalist

16 posted on 10/10/2006 10:11:38 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: MrNationalist

Been done! There are already a 50% human, 50 rabbit clones out there: They are called Frenchmen.


17 posted on 10/10/2006 10:27:23 AM PDT by wildbill
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I guess that every so often, the slippery slope veers off into total absurdity.

18 posted on 10/10/2006 10:29:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: MrNationalist

Gives new meaning to the phrase "make like a bunny"...


19 posted on 10/10/2006 10:33:58 AM PDT by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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To: MrNationalist

Jimmy Carter's Worst Nightmare!


20 posted on 10/10/2006 10:35:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MrNationalist
The aim is to find a ready source of "human" embryonic stem cells without the ethical problems of tampering with human life.

HUH?

Take human embryos, insert a small amount of rabbit DNA, and this is not tampering with human life?

21 posted on 10/10/2006 10:47:51 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting in Mahmudiyah)
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To: dfwgator
Jimmy Carter's Worst Nightmare!

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LOL!

22 posted on 10/10/2006 11:01:07 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MrNationalist

That's actually worse........eeeewwww.


23 posted on 10/10/2006 12:10:12 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: Kirkwood

Never.


24 posted on 10/10/2006 12:12:46 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: Jaded

Why not? Suppose you were dying from a disease, but you could use your own adult stem cells to cure you. The only issue is that it meant ending the life of a single celled rabbit egg. Would you do it or would you die?


25 posted on 10/10/2006 12:57:56 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: SoldierDad

"HUH?

Take human embryos, insert a small amount of rabbit DNA, and this is not tampering with human life?"

It is the other way around. Take a rabbit egg, remove the nucleus and then take DNA from yourself and inject it into the rabbit cell so you could grow your own personal stem cell line.


26 posted on 10/10/2006 1:00:46 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood

or Not. This is way past playing God.


27 posted on 10/10/2006 1:19:32 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: Kirkwood

Oh, my mistake.

Still, it sounds kinda science fiction at this point.


28 posted on 10/10/2006 1:22:15 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting in Mahmudiyah)
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To: MrNationalist

"God destroyed the Earth for being Genetically altered(Fallen Ones breeding with Women) before."

Time to start prayin' my FRiend. The Fallen Ones are mounting (and even occasionally breeding) women both on and off campus. Marxists are out-fornicating even Muslims.

How much more 'fallen' can one get than a Marxist academic, a presstitute, or even the garden (of evil?) variety Libroid?

And all are busy ape-ing the fallen One.

;-(


29 posted on 10/10/2006 1:23:03 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is *not* a Gods, Graves, Glyphs topic. These chimera topics are diluting the value of the keyword, and have been happening a bit more often (like, once a week) for a month or so. Anyway, just so everyone is aware.

Now, it's time for a little Spike Jones flashback.

"Bunnies, bunnies, bunnies, bunnies, everywhere,
there's bunnies on the table and there's bunnies on the chair,
bunnies on the sofa and there's bunnies on the floor,
and there's some new ones comin' throught the door! More?"


30 posted on 10/10/2006 9:49:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (North Korea is a rogue and illegal regime. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Kirkwood

Not on your life.


31 posted on 10/10/2006 10:00:01 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Kirkwood
Everyone dies sometime or another. Nobody is going to live forever. So what if you get that cure for cancer through this kind of abomination? You could walk out that hospital door *cured* and get hit by a car while crossing the street.
32 posted on 10/10/2006 10:02:45 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Why is this an abomination? We use animals for many things in life - food and clothing, tissues for surgery, hormones and drugs for medicine. If all we are doing is using the cell walls and mitochondria of a rabbit egg to more easily and more quickly regenerate our own adult stem cells (which we are already capable of doing), what is wrong with that? If your son or daughter could be saved by growing their own stem cells using a single rabbit egg, would you refuse and allow them to die? The next time you eat a chicken egg or any food made from eggs, will you consider that an abomination? Are you going to stop eating animal products because someday you are going to die anyway? How ridiculous.


33 posted on 10/10/2006 10:18:35 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood

Eating animals is not the same as making human/animal hybrids. The only thing that's ridiculous is thinking that messing with genetics like that is OK. There are other ways of treating disease that does not corrupt or pollute the human race like that. It's a Pandora's Box.


34 posted on 10/10/2006 10:53:13 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

"Eating animals is not the same as making human/animal hybrids. "

They are not "making" human/animals. They are growing adult human stem cells in tissue culture by using the shell of a single rabbit cell to trigger the process. That shell of a rabbit cell has no genetic code of its own, but it has the biochemical processing plant that can replicate human DNA in a natural way. The grown stem cells then get injected into the body and the body tells the cell what tissue to become. Remember when Don Ho had stem cells injected into his heart and they grew and replaced damaged heart tissue? Those cells were all processed in a lab. This technique is simply another way to grow and process human stem cells more efficiently.


35 posted on 10/11/2006 7:42:53 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood

Why are they called embryos?


36 posted on 10/14/2006 8:01:17 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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