Foley, Pirro, Allen - Political Set-Ups?

ChronWatch ^ | 10/03/2006 | Doc Farmer

[bobsunshine]

The real October Surprise hasn't yet arrived. It isn't going to help the Democrats.


This might be what is coming in October:

Remember this: "Grand Jury Probes News Leaks at NSA"

From MacRanger's site:

Via email:

Hey Mac.

“At this point, this is good information that is something HUGH is cooking in the “bunker” in Alexandria, where a Federal Grand Jury has been conducting an investigation of possible violations of federal criminal laws involving unauthorized disclosure of classified information”. If you noticed there have been very few if any real leaks since August as no one - who isn’t already subject of the inquirey - want’s to add their name to the list.”

But trickles do come, even through the tight security, and it may be sooner than later that we think.

[DocFarmer]

For the nation's sake, I hope that the DoJ grows a set and actually indicts/tries/convicts whoever has been leaking these security secrets.

[OESY]

Bill Clinton hated it when people said anything bad about him. And he'd often ask his staff if there was any dirt on anyone in Arkansas who he considered an opponent. So when Arkansans - as they call themselves - heard about the mysterious list of more than 300 Republicans whose FBI dossiers were pulled by an Army aide assigned to the White House they figured it was just business as usual. While Clinton never kept a written list of enemies while he was governor, everyone around him knew that they could curry favor with the boss if something bad could be acquired on an enemy.

"If something came out in the paper with someone saying something bad about him, he would ask 'do we have anything against them. What can we do to turn this around?" says Larry Patterson, a veteran Arkansas state trooper who spent more than six years guarding the Clinton family. Patterson is also one of the guys who revealed details of the underside of Clinton's personal life, so some folks may believe he's tainted goods as an informant. But Independent Counsel Ken Starr's office in Little Rock has questioned Patterson a number of times and seems to be taking his information very seriously. More important, I've never caught Patterson in a lie even though I've baited traps on a number of occasions.

Patterson says Clinton wasn't always on the defensive concerning his "enemies." Sometimes he took the offensive - like the time Patterson says he was asked to dig up dirt on a political opponent....

Was the FBI list requested by the White House a clumsy attempt to get dirt on people who might someday give the President a hard time? And why was the Clinton White House so concerned about its enemies in the Republican Party? Don't know for sure.

-- John Crudele, July 5, 1996, http://192.80.61.73/WebVAX/Colt/CrudeleFBI5Jul96.html

[OESY]

In a live interview on CNN's "Late Edition," Gore defended the White House's handling of the files and said a policy will soon be in place to prevent anyone there from having access to FBI materials.

"We are going to make sure new guidelines are further adhered to so something like this never happens again," Gore said from his farm in Carthage, Tennessee.

"To the limits of my knowledge," the files did not wind up in the White House for political purposes, the vice president said. "I was sure it was some kind of bureaucratic foul-up . . . We still don't know what happened, but the wrong procedures were used."

In a separate interview on CBS' Face The Nation, White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta said it was "inexcusable" that White House personnel requested background files on people who worked in the Reagan and Bush administrations. But Panetta said there's no evidence that the files were misused.

Both he and Gore criticized Republicans for attacking the White House.

"They can't talk about the real matters facing America. They're out of ideas . . . so they want to bring up all of these other matters and try to pretend that these are the matters of primary concern to the American people. They're not," Gore said.

-- CNN, June 23, 1996, http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/news/9606/23/travel.fbi.files/index.html

[B Knotts]

Thanks for the info. Sounds like a good candidate for the surprise.

[onef]

well at least I'm not alone

[tioga]

More like october fizzle to me...........

[Richard Axtell]

There is only one way I know of that these IMs messages could be recorded, as a "history log" by either the sender or receiver. Since IMs happen in real time bidirectionally, both can record the content of the exchange. Foley didn't give these logs to ABC, it was clearly the page or pages that kept the history logs, and they volunteered them to those who would be most interested, i.e. Foley's political enemies (Florida or Congressional Democrats).

There is no way Hastert could have known about these messages, unless the page(s) sent a copy of the history to him also. So, the Democrats sat on this info until the time was right, and that may have been as long as three years. ABC cooperated with the Democrats in this, they certainly didn't call ethics and refuse to use them, did they? If these IMs are a record of lawbreaking, then the Democrats are guilty of using knowledge of a felony to gain political advantage, which is a crime. Investigate this now, but leave Fitz out of it.

[defconw]

BTTT

[bobsunshine]

There are a number of bloggers looking into who held the IM's and why. One point, IM's are stored on the IP server of that initial account. Did someone hack into it or what? Here is more info from MacRanger at macsmind.

On Brian (didn’t talk about it in 2005 because I was busy with Katrina) Ross’s blog, he now admits to receiving “52 separate instant message exchanges, which former pages say were sent by Foley, using the screen name Maf54, to two different boys under the age of 18.”

He adds….

“This message was dated April 2003, at approximately 7 p.m., according to the message time stamp.”

Excuse me? 2003? So there are all these recorded chat messages - messages that have to be chosen to be recorded as no chat or im software does that by default, coming like a flury, all of a sudden. Again, WHO held these messages in a “undeclosed location” and incidently, withheld evidence, from 2003 until now.

The Democratic leadership ought to be worried, because this is precisely what the DOJ and FBI and looking to find out.

[DocFarmer]

Folks, you are NOT going to believe this BS...


Lawyer Says Foley Was Molested As a Teen
Oct 03 6:21 PM US/Eastern


Former Rep. Mark Foley's attorney said Tuesday that his client was molested between the ages 13 and 15 by a clergyman.

Foley had represented the West Palm Beach district for 12 years and was seeking re-election until his sudden resignation last week after the disclosure of lurid online communications with teenage congressional pages.

"This is part of his recovery," Roth said, declining to identify the clergyman or the church.

Roth also announced for the first time that Foley is gay.

He insisted Foley never had sexual contact with a minor.


http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/03/D8KHE4PG0.html

[bobsunshine]

Just saw the thread at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713107/posts

[DocFarmer]

Looks like that thread was a duplicate of this thread...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713082/posts

It's hard to keep track sometimes...

[Ol' Sparky]

Is all the spending and expansion of government a Democratic setup, too? How about all the proposals of amnesty for illegals?

The Republican party isn't based in any kind of principle anymore, if it ever has been since it gained the majority. It cares about one thing -- maintaining power, no matter how much it has to spend, no matter what principle is sells out and no matter how many blind eyes they have to turn to RINO, homosexual perverts like Foley.

Conservatives need to vote for conservatives and expel unprincipled sellouts, RINOs and liberal Republicans from the GOP. Such types are the biggest impedement to conservativism.

One man -- Ronald Reagan -- standing on principle did got more done with a Democratic congress than the present lukewarm conservative Republicans in charge now.

[1035rep]

The Democratic leadership ought to be worried, because this is precisely what the DOJ and FBI and looking to find out.

bttt