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Muslims in U.S. are wary
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH ^ | 09/30/2006 | Tim Townsend

Posted on 10/02/2006 9:10:43 AM PDT by newgeezer

West Pine Islamic Center
Sister Joyce, left, from St. Louis, watches Faiqa Hassan, center, from Maryland Heights, spoon out the last of the rice Wednesday evening in the pot held by Dr. Waheed Rana in the kitchen of the West Pine Islamic Center on the St. Louis University campus. They were preparing the meal for Iftar, the breaking of the fast, during this month of Ramadan for Muslims.
Since June, area Muslims have become increasingly uncomfortable and even fearful not because of overt attacks or threats against them, but because a sequence of incidents have built upon each other to form an intense, low-grade foreboding.

Beginning with the monthlong Israel-Hezbollah conflict through Pope Benedict XVI's inflammatory lecture last month, American Muslims say they feel more uneasy in their own country. Local incidents, including the August screening of a controversial anti-terrorism movie and an FBI raid on the home of a Muslim in Columbia, Mo., have heightened the anxiety, according to dozens of St. Louis Muslims interviewed over the last few weeks.

"Muslims are feeling like the world is closing in on them," said Orvin T. Kimbrough, executive director of the Interfaith Partnership of Metropolitan St. Louis. "They feel like they're being targeted."

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: enemywithin; fifthcolumn; infiltration; islam; muslims; rop; trop; waaambulance
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Perhaps, if they would condemn any of the violence done all over the world in the name of allah, ... naaaaaaaaahh...
1 posted on 10/02/2006 9:10:45 AM PDT by newgeezer
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To: newgeezer
Since June, area Muslims have become increasingly uncomfortable and even fearful not because of overt attacks or threats against them, but because a sequence of incidents have built upon each other to form an intense, low-grade foreboding.

Since September 12, 2001, Americans have become increasingly uncomfortable and even fearful not because of overt attacks or threats against them, but because a sequence of incidents have built upon each other to form an intense, low-grade foreboding.

2 posted on 10/02/2006 9:14:30 AM PDT by Zeppo
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To: newgeezer

They hate the West. Why are they here ?


3 posted on 10/02/2006 9:14:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: newgeezer

Cry me a river. Perhaps they would feel safer back home in Fubarstan.


4 posted on 10/02/2006 9:15:43 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: newgeezer

They should either learn to become real Americans or leave.


5 posted on 10/02/2006 9:16:08 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: newgeezer

But of course, I, as an American and a Christian, would NO DOUBT feel perfectly comfortable and safe in a place like Iran or Saudi Arabia or even the Palestinian area of Israel.


6 posted on 10/02/2006 9:16:20 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: newgeezer

They sure as hell aren't wary around here. They generally expect all Americans to kiss their @sses.


7 posted on 10/02/2006 9:17:31 AM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: newgeezer

Wait 'till they see the new mohamad bobblehead doll.


8 posted on 10/02/2006 9:17:50 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: newgeezer

"American Muslims say they feel more uneasy in their own country."

Given how muslims see sharia law, and the supercedence of the koran, I'd say that muslims feel uneasy in OUR country, not theirs.

We have spent generations teaching tolerance in the US. It's nearly impossible for some of us to recognize islam for what it is, and to realize there can be no middle ground. No negotiation.

Give up the death cult, that is the only way to solve the problem for these people. We are in the midst of a religous war, like it or not. And there are no bystanders, everyone will be affected one way or the other.


9 posted on 10/02/2006 9:18:14 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: newgeezer
Well, the good news is that it's not another article that Muslims are angry.
10 posted on 10/02/2006 9:18:32 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: newgeezer
"Muslims are feeling like the world is closing in on them," said Orvin T. Kimbrough, executive director of the Interfaith Partnership of Metropolitan St. Louis. "They feel like they're being targeted."

Hmmm. Interesting choice of words. Who is targeting whom?

11 posted on 10/02/2006 9:18:45 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: newgeezer
Beginning with the monthlong Israel-Hezbollah conflict

Israel was defending itself from Hezbollah. This wasn't an "attack".

The fact that the writer lead off with this statement means (to me) that the article lacks credibility.

12 posted on 10/02/2006 9:19:37 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: newgeezer

And non-Muslims are even more wary.

I love how these articles are quick to turn the aggressor side into the victims.

What mosques have Christians in the U.S. blown up? How many beheadings have the Muslims here suffered?


13 posted on 10/02/2006 9:19:47 AM PDT by Elpasser
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To: newgeezer
They feel like they're being targeted

We must be doing something right.

14 posted on 10/02/2006 9:19:50 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: newgeezer

Maybe they can join their brethren in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm sure they'd feel more comfortable there.


15 posted on 10/02/2006 9:20:06 AM PDT by New Girl
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To: newgeezer
The Muslims brought the whole thing upon themselves.

They (and yes, I mean the WHOLE LOT, "peaceful" or not) started it.

They didn't have to do 9/11, it was their choice.

Not the lives of over 3,000 innocent people.

Plug a big ole allah popsicle in your mouth and suck on it.

When you realize that you are responible for your own actions, and when you grow up, then come back to civilization and maybe, just maybe, we will talk with REASON and common respect with you.

16 posted on 10/02/2006 9:20:17 AM PDT by GulfWar1Vet (I will not submit to Islam. Too bad that the Democrats already have. Have you submitted to Islam?)
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To: newgeezer

Boo hoo hoo.


17 posted on 10/02/2006 9:20:27 AM PDT by Arpege92 (If you don't stand behind our troops...please feel free to stand in front of them!)
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To: newgeezer

I would like to believe this story, but it could be just another lie to elicit sympathy.


18 posted on 10/02/2006 9:21:08 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: newgeezer

"Americans must learn more about Islam so they can understand the differences and defuse the hate and misdirected anger," said Ishmael-Lateef Ahmad. "Given an opportunity, Americans will investigate and learn and, as time goes on, that will help."

Actually, the more I learn about Islam, the less I want any of its practitioners here in the US.
Islam and a modern Republic are not compatible.


19 posted on 10/02/2006 9:22:28 AM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: Ford4000

"I would like to believe this story, but it could be just another lie to elicit sympathy"

I agree. I have a difficult time believing anything a muslim says today.


20 posted on 10/02/2006 9:22:42 AM PDT by Arpege92 (If you don't stand behind our troops...please feel free to stand in front of them!)
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To: newgeezer
a sequence of incidents have built upon each other to form an intense, low-grade foreboding.

I have a subtle, more acidic retasting of my breakfast reading this kind of crap.

I don't give a good goddamn about their vague feelings of foreboding or the time they may have interpreted a odd look from somebody as a possible incident of racial animosity or whatever other crap they're feeling.

Islamics run around the globe killing thousands through beheadings and forced starvations and stoning, and it never makes the papers. But some muslim hump in Lansing Michigan experience an ominous sense of foreboding about his personal popularity at the bowling alley and they write another effing article about it!

21 posted on 10/02/2006 9:23:05 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: newgeezer

"through Pope Benedict XVI's inflammatory lecture"

If the Roman Catholic Pope's lecture is percieved as a problem, then Muslim's need a ton of self-examination because it is their problem in perceiving that lecture as "inflammatory".

The lecture was (1)a call for dialogue not violence, (2)a rebuke of violence as a tool in religiuous conversion, (3)the identification of reason as essential to a practice of faith in God, (4)and how tolerance of intolerance is an abdication of both faith and reason. If those elemental points are anti-Islamic, then the problem is Islam's.


22 posted on 10/02/2006 9:24:42 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: bordergal

"Actually, the more I learn about Islam, the less I want any of its practitioners here in the US.
Islam and a modern Republic are not compatible."

ABSOLUTELY!

The people who want to negotiate with muslims and think muslims are just another sect of religious people are ignorant of islam.
I've spent more time reading about islam than I wanted to, and I realize that I am their enemy. So, I have to deal with them on their terms. It's war.


23 posted on 10/02/2006 9:24:48 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: newgeezer

Since freedom is not allowed under Islam why would
a muslim choose to live where freedom is a fundemental
part of society, their muslim sensibilities are offended on every front here.My sense is that they should anticipate
much difficulty and even impending doom.


24 posted on 10/02/2006 9:25:16 AM PDT by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: newgeezer

"Muslims in U.S. are wary"

Kind of like a bunch of long-tailed cats in a room full of rocking chairs occupied by old folks.

Sorry. That was the image that came to mind, and I had to share it.


25 posted on 10/02/2006 9:25:24 AM PDT by alloysteel (In war, disproportionate force is the ONLY way to assure victory and subsequent peace.)
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To: newgeezer

Do me a favor and spare me the "in their own country" crap.

I'm an eighth generation American, and have checked alot of what is known about my ancestors, and have yet to find a single dam one that wore a turban.

They have their place. There is no need for them to come to our place to change it into their place. Period.


26 posted on 10/02/2006 9:25:34 AM PDT by djf (Its time for all patriotic Americans to get a new pet --- a pet PIG!!)
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To: newgeezer

I feel bad for them. They should leave.


27 posted on 10/02/2006 9:26:07 AM PDT by Millee (A joke then, a joke N.O.W.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"They hate the West. Why are they here ?"

Sleeper cells?
28 posted on 10/02/2006 9:27:18 AM PDT by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: wagglebee

Agreed, but they don't want to become Americans, they want Americans to become Islamic idiots willing to engage child sacrifice in order to mass murder innocent people.


29 posted on 10/02/2006 9:28:33 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: bordergal

I have yet to learn anything about Islam that isn't completely repulsive.


30 posted on 10/02/2006 9:29:16 AM PDT by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: newgeezer
...Pope Benedict XVI's inflammatory lecture last month...

Nice unbiased reporting there (/s).

31 posted on 10/02/2006 9:29:28 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: claptrap

"Since freedom is not allowed under Islam why would
a muslim choose to live where freedom is a fundemental
part of society"

hmmmmmm....maybe they're here to convert all of us pagans?


32 posted on 10/02/2006 9:29:50 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (Don't let reality ruin your day.)
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To: newgeezer
Muslims laying down the foundation for their present and future victimology.
33 posted on 10/02/2006 9:30:42 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: newgeezer
American Muslims say they feel more uneasy in their own country.
Perhaps they'd feel less uneasy here ...

The Japanese Internment
34 posted on 10/02/2006 9:31:26 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: newgeezer

Well that's just too bad .... if they are that scared they can fly home to middle east barbarian land.


35 posted on 10/02/2006 9:31:31 AM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: Hazcat

Want to bet the reporter didn't even research the speech?


36 posted on 10/02/2006 9:31:50 AM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: MizSterious

bttt


37 posted on 10/02/2006 9:32:41 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: newgeezer
""Muslims are feeling like the world is closing in on them,""

Hardly, Muslims are closing in on the world through violence. Muslims are in the middle of a world wide conquest as evidenced by the number of wars and conflicts currently taking place around the world. In almost ever one of these, Muslims are the ones waging the war.

Oh and for the title of this thread..."Muslims in the U.S. are weary." well, I'm weary of Muslims in the U.S.
38 posted on 10/02/2006 9:33:19 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: freeangel
Why not? There's already a bobblehead Jesus.


39 posted on 10/02/2006 9:33:21 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: bordergal

"Americans must learn more about Islam so they can understand the differences and defuse the hate and misdirected anger," said Ishmael-Lateef Ahmad. "Given an opportunity, Americans will investigate and learn and, as time goes on, that will help."

Oh, I see. The burden is on EVERYBODY ELSE, not them.


40 posted on 10/02/2006 9:33:21 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: newgeezer
Islam is bad, it's adherents are bad.

If, in fact, there is such a group as moderate and peaceful Muslims then they should organize to change the name, holy text, deity, prophet, beliefs, and ceremonies of their faith.


41 posted on 10/02/2006 9:34:55 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: FBD
"'Muslims are feeling like the world is closing in on them,' said Orvin T. Kimbrough, executive director of the Interfaith Partnership of Metropolitan St. Louis."

Good.
About damned time.

"They feel like they're being targeted."

HA!!
Is that rich, or what.

They need to thank Allah they're not losing.

...their heads.

42 posted on 10/02/2006 9:34:59 AM PDT by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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To: fivecatsandadog
Stop the Imperialist Islamic nations!!!!! Maybe that will get the moonbats on board. Then again.......maybe not.
43 posted on 10/02/2006 9:36:26 AM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: newgeezer
"Muslims are feeling like the world is closing in on them..."

If the 'good' muslims would be critical of the 'radical' muslims they wouldn't feel like the world is closing in on them. The fact that they feel they are being targeted leads me to believe that they are in agreement and fully support the 'radical' muslims. Truth is their despotic religion requires them to support the annihilation of all those who do not convert to islam. Not exactly what I would call the religion of peace!

44 posted on 10/02/2006 9:36:31 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: bordergal

and why should WE learn more about islam? we know enough to know that it reaps havoc and blood-letting wherever it goes. why don't THEY learn more about christianity and judaism or other more (truly) PEACEFUL religions that don't have their scriptural prophets commanding death for all 'unbelievers' (of islam)? bunch of whiners. can't handle it when the shoe is on the other foot.

can you guess how many of these wankers were dancing around on 9/11 with s.e. grins on their faces??


45 posted on 10/02/2006 9:36:58 AM PDT by thubb
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To: Neoliberalnot

A hundred years ago there was a lot of bias against eastern European immigrants and Italians, a generation before that it was the Irish. Even as recently as 30 years ago there was an influx of Vietnamese and Cambodian refugees. All of these groups made the conscious decision to become AMERICANS and work to achieve the American Dream for themselves and their children. And the very first thing many of them did was to learn English and use it as much as possible even among others who spoke their native languages. Except in cases of extreme racism, none of these groups are viewed in a negative way.

If Muslims don't want to become Americans, then why in the hell are they even here, unless it is to destroy America.


46 posted on 10/02/2006 9:37:13 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: newgeezer

What these Muslim Americans may not know, is that well over 3 years ago, the kids at MIZZOU where coming home talking about the large Al Qaida congration just outside Columbia, Missouri. They were like the poor guy who is telling the other guy his pants are on fire and no one was listening. We give our kids so little credit. If adults knew half of what is going on -- we'd be a little more on alert.


47 posted on 10/02/2006 9:38:05 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: bordergal

Sorry, I don't take sucker bets ;)


48 posted on 10/02/2006 9:39:19 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: Landru
"They feel like they're being targeted."



Not yet.
49 posted on 10/02/2006 9:39:28 AM PDT by djf (Its time for all patriotic Americans to get a new pet --- a pet PIG!!)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

that's Al Qaida congregation. If Muslims are on the up and up, they have no fears from me.


50 posted on 10/02/2006 9:39:55 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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