Don't mess with my toot-toot!
Posted on 09/25/2006 8:32:31 AM PDT by presidio9
Archbishop Desmond Tutu, in the first authorized biography of the Nobel peace laureate, said he was ashamed of his Anglican Church's conservative position that rejected gay priests. In the book "Rabble-Rouser for Peace," by his former press secretary, John Allen, Tutu also criticized the last apartheid president, F.W. de Klerk, for not accepting accountability for apartheid atrocities. He said the failure caused him to regret having nominated de Klerk, along with Nelson Mandela, for their 1993 Nobel Peace Prize.
Excerpts from the book were scheduled to be appear in South Africa on Friday and the biography was scheduled for release in time for Tutu's 75th birthday on Oct. 7. The retired archbishop was critical of Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams for bowing on the gay priest issue to conservative elements, particularly African bishops, in the 77-million member Anglican Church that includes Episcopalians in the United States.
In a 1998 letter to Williams predecessor, Archbishop George Carey, Tutu wrote that he was "ashamed to be Anglican." It came after the Lambeth Conference of Bishops rejected the ordination of practicing homosexuals saying their sexual relations were "incompatible with scripture."
Tutu also said he was deeply saddened at the furor caused by the appointment of openly gay V. Gene Robinson as bishop of New Hampshire in 2003. "He found it little short of outrageous that church leaders should be obsessed with issues of sexuality in the face of the challenges of AIDS and global poverty," wrote Allen.
Tutu's criticism of de Klerk stems from when Tutu was chairman of South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which offered perpetrators of apartheid crimes amnesty if they told the truth about their activities. During the hearings, Tutu sometimes wept along with the victims of human rights abuses. Allen wrote that the process left Tutu disappointed with some political leaders, particularly de Klerk, who he believed had not accepted accountability for apartheid atrocities.
In response to a request for his reaction to the book, de Klerk said Allen had tried to be fair in reporting on the tensions between him and Tutu, recording the steps taken to address the violence and saying no evidence implicated the president in the violence. De Klerk said he regrets the antipathy that Tutu subsequently developed for him and that their relationship has mellowed with time. He said he had the greatest respect for Tutu and for the constructive role he often played.
Tut-tut, Tutu.
AND, since they gave a prize to Yessir Iamfat, will TUTU return his prize?
Tutu should get together with Cardinal Mahoney.
What is Tutu's position on gay priest who fool around with little Boys?
Gay priests do not "fool around with little boys." Their victims are almost exclusively gay teenagers. The "pedophilia" construct is a liberal conspiracy against a Church which stands for everything the drive-by media opposes.
Anglicans are tradional not social engineering secularists. If he can't hack it the way its been for hundreds of years then he can go to some other church that ordains gays and lesbians so he won't be ashamed.
lol. "Desmond Tutu". He really should be the international Figurehead of the new-age Episcopalian movement. Nonetheless, his is a book I shall not waste my time with. It's subtitle should read: Politics rules the Church. Oh My! Back to the days of pre-Magna Carta England, shall we? not.
Sorry, couldn't resist...
'Scuse Me????????
Some Anglicans think that Desmond Tutu made them ashamed to be Anglican!
Perhaps His Grace, the retired Archbishop of South Africa, can explain why the Biblical admonishions against racism and classism that he used against apartheid should be followed to the letter, but the Biblical admonishions concerning homosexal behavior should be ignored completely.
hmm. anyone remember asking him?
What I can't understand is what is his point in all this? What possible good can come from inverts, in or out of clerical garb?
Besides, if he is retired, then his opinion isn't even worth considering as advice.
Sad, sad, sad.
Tutu is one of "them".
What an incredible feat.
ping
How can the challenges of AIDS and global poverty be removed from sexuality?
"Tutu Says Church Stand on Gay Priests Made Him Ashamed to be Anglican"
Catholicism teaches that homosexuality is wrong. Get over it. It's clearly stated in the Bible, so why does everyone act shocked and ashamed when they hear about it?
Pretend Christians (including Anglicans) are the ones who clearly think in terms of of The Ten Suggestions rather than Commandments.
If you don't like it,join the Unitarian/Universalist "Church" where pretty much anything goes!
TuTu is SoSo-------Ronald Reagan. What is wrong with all these lefties world wide. They all think the same. There is not international Conservative Movement. We are unique and I am afraid out numbered.
Easy. They are George Bush's fault.
Desmond Tutu should marry Vicky Gene Robinson. Then the two of them could go off into the sunset together.
Actually Reagan's. He had C. Everett Koop concoct the disease in a lab while he was in office.
I guess Tutu feels like he needs to make sure his liberal friends know he's still on their side. He's more interested in pushing liberalism than following God's teachings.
another anti-Christ show his ugly head.
Atheists who haven't kicked the Church habit.
Get lost Tutu. Bow down before the one you serve! (It isn't our Heavenly Father)
"It's clearly stated in the Bible, so why does everyone act shocked and ashamed when they hear about it?"
The answer is not far below your post, NavySon...
"What is wrong with all these lefties world wide. They all think the same."
There is exactly one leftist movement. Might as well call it a religion (Latin root, re-ligio, a thing that ties, what we might term a binding principle).
Its principles (along with socialist/communist economic thought and many other items) include that God is a social construct only. To a leftist, a position of power in any given church is only that, a position of power, and has no relation to any actual belief in God.
So a theoretically-Anglican liberal, an atheist liberal, a Buddhist liberal and an Episcopalian liberal can all have the same garbage coming out their mouths, because for them all the faith stuff is just part of the dress code, like a businessman wears a tie or the UPS driver wearing brown - they put it on only when it's expected of them.
-ccm
"There is exactly one leftist movement. Might as well call it a religion (Latin root, re-ligio, a thing that ties, what we might term a binding principle)."
Sounds like someone just read "Godless."
I've never read it, actually. I like Ann's columns but I'm not in the habit of buying political books.
Generally, IMO, they're just well-sourced volumes of the obvious. This is a valuable service but since I'm not appearing on talk shows nightly fighting against squawky libs I don't need a pile of citations ready at hand.
And here I was thinking that the African churches had a better idea than most of us, on what Christianity is all about. When Gene Robinson was ordained, I suggested replacing the pro-gay Archbishop of Canterbury with the Archbishop of Kampala. Now it looks like Tutu is proving me wrong. :(
When Tutu was considering the priesthood, he first asked, "do I have to believe in God to become a priest." ;')
That fool Tutu can kiss my former Anglican tailpipe!
For some reason, the MSM wants to distort what the word "pedophile" means and confuse the public. Ex-Congressman Mark Foley is also incessantly called a "pedophile" for have dirty chats with 16-18 year old guys.
Real life pedophiles exclusively prefer PRE-PUBESCENT CHILDREN (almost always UNDER the age of 14). Why does the MSM confuse the two? Could it be to make the "gay" agenda seem more normal?
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