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IL: Restaurant complaints relight smoking debate
Herald Advocate ^ | Sept. 21, 2006 | JENNIFER JOHNSON

Posted on 09/21/2006 6:39:52 PM PDT by SheLion

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To: KoRn

Well, the communists on our local city council voted last week to ban smoking in all businesses in this town except the bars!


21 posted on 09/22/2006 6:25:00 AM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: raybbr

How about no taliban? If I own a business, I'll decide whether smoking is allowed or not. If you don't like it you can get the f#$k out. There are plenty of bars that have gone smoke free of their own volition.


22 posted on 09/22/2006 6:47:07 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: SheLion

It's a dependable method of shutting down mom&pop bars and restaurants, whether it is by design or accident I cannot say but that is the result. The large mega-chains don't mind, that's for certain.


23 posted on 09/22/2006 6:51:23 AM PDT by Freedom4US (u)
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To: Sunshine Sister

You got it.


They want their red-headed step-child (smokers), and they want to beat him, too.(outrageous taxes and restrictions)


24 posted on 09/22/2006 6:52:28 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: Freedom4US
It's a dependable method of shutting down mom&pop bars and restaurants, whether it is by design or accident I cannot say but that is the result. The large mega-chains don't mind, that's for certain.

Yes.  The anti-smokers are pushing for that "level playing field."  Do away with the private business owners and let the franchise's have full rein.

I don't care.  I won't even spend my money on a big chain.  No smoking?  Then they don't get my business.

Simple as that!

If, as a citizen, society does not cater to my interests, why should I cater to the interests of society?

25 posted on 09/22/2006 7:13:58 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping. My friends and I will continue to boycott but the general feeling is tar and feathers would be more effective :)


26 posted on 09/22/2006 7:22:47 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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To: SheLion

Well, technically, as long as the government will have responsibility for the effects - that is, Medicaid paying for cancer care - it's quite reasonable to tax the revenue stream which leads to the cost (smoking). Of course, as usual with our government it's Tax now, spend now, and spend later (when taxes might or might not be there due to change in demographics or national habits).


27 posted on 09/22/2006 7:30:24 AM PDT by WizWom (Stupidty Hater!)
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To: elkfersupper

"let's call it McTacopizzabees,..."

I just saw an "Demolition Man" and they had a franchise war. Every restaurant was a Taco Bell, regardless of the food they featured. It kind of made me think....


28 posted on 09/22/2006 7:44:44 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: beltfed308
Thanks for the ping. My friends and I will continue to boycott but the general feeling is tar and feathers would be more effective :)

I'm with YOU!

29 posted on 09/22/2006 8:10:12 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: WizWom
Well, technically, as long as the government will have responsibility for the effects - that is, Medicaid paying for cancer care - it's quite reasonable to tax the revenue stream which leads to the cost (smoking). Of course, as usual with our government it's Tax now, spend now, and spend later (when taxes might or might not be there due to change in demographics or national habits).

Gosh.  I sure am sorry you feel that way and that you have been so easily swayed and do not follow the news that comes out.

Don't you realize that The WHO (World Health Organization) came out with their research that smoking DOES NOT CAUSE LUNG CANCER????  Pity that you still believe the lying thieves of the professional anti-smokers.

Pity indeed.

Smoking Does Not Cause Lung Cancer
(According to WHO/CDC Data)*

30 posted on 09/22/2006 8:15:51 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

I play bass in a number of bands. I love coming home with clothes that don't reek of smoke.

That said, I am vehemently against this law. The government at all levels needs to butt out of peoples private lives and businesses. If people don't want to go there, they don't have to.

On a side note, before the smoking ban there was this great smokeless bar I would go to to play. The place was always packed. A few months after the ban, they closed their doors.


31 posted on 09/22/2006 8:19:56 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is more dangerous to the world now that Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: RobRoy
That said, I am vehemently against this law. The government at all levels needs to butt out of peoples private lives and businesses. If people don't want to go there, they don't have to.

On a side note, before the smoking ban there was this great smokeless bar I would go to to play. The place was always packed. A few months after the ban, they closed their doors.

I know smoking isn't for everyone and I hear it a lot that non smokers are glad that smoking has been banned.  But they aren't looking at this from the private business owner's side.  When 25-30% of your patrons stop coming because they can't smoke, that loss is going to hurt.  Big time.

We hear it from band members all across the US about how business is down, or that they just can't play at a bar anymore that banned smoking.  The money is just not there anymore.

And at least smoke odors can be washed off.  And clothes can be washed.  :)

32 posted on 09/22/2006 10:49:45 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: WizWom

Not disagreeing with your point, but doesn't it make you wonder why they only tax smokers as they do, for health reasons? Why not exhorbitant taxation on other conduct that affects public health, such as AIDs? Why not an extra "gay tax?"

The list is quite long as to other health issues that are caused by conduct. Why only smokers?


33 posted on 09/22/2006 11:44:29 AM PDT by DakotaRed (The legacy of the left, "Screw you, I got mine.")
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To: lesser_satan
If you don't like it you can get the f#$k out.

That's rather childish. I was trying to have some fun. It seems that advocating health is akin to asking people to flay themselves.

34 posted on 09/22/2006 2:17:31 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: SheLion
FYI: raybbr is one of the biggest anti-smokers in Free Republic. So just overlook his rants.

Oh, come on. I stay off of these threads. How can I be "one of the biggest"? Besides, you don't know how big I am. (I am kind of big, though):^)

35 posted on 09/22/2006 2:18:39 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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