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Democrats launch Christian Web site
Chicago Tribune ^ | 9/6/6 | Frank James

Posted on 09/06/2006 6:55:11 AM PDT by ZGuy

A group of Christian Democrats seeking to compete against Republicans for the vote of religious Americans has started a Web site meant to serve as a forum for like thinkers and a political tool to raise money and volunteers for Democratic candidates who share their values.

The new site, FaithfulDemocrats.com, is partly the brainchild of David Wilhelm, a former Democratic National Committee chairman who also managed campaigns for Mayor Richard M. Daley and President Bill Clinton.

"So the main thing was to help reframe the values debate to be beyond wedge-issue politics, beyond fear and division and more focused on justice and the common good," Lava said. "So our site is explicitly a Christian community. It is explicitly a Democratic community."

Republicans have appealed to religious voters, particularly Christians, by prominently campaigning against abortion, gay marriage and other issues.

For years, progressive Christian groups such as Sojourners have tried to swing the debate away from those wedge issues and more toward such social justice issues as poverty and health care for those without insurance.

One of FaithfulDemocrats.com's leaders is a Tennessee Democrat, Roy Herron, his party's leader in the state Senate.

A folksy anti-abortion advocate, Herron is a former minister who probably would be an attractive candidate to numerous people who attend the huge, conservative-oriented churches that have provided significant support to GOP candidates.

"I'm tired of politicians and partisans and preachers spelling God G-O-P," Herron told reporters Tuesday. "Now many Americans think Jesus never rode a donkey and today only rides an elephant. The truth is God cannot be held hostage by a political party. And American Christians should not be, either."

FaithfulDemocrats.com's advisory council includes such Democratic political figures as Mike McCurry, who was Clinton's press secretary, and Minyon Moore, who advised Clinton and Jesse Jackson Sr.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2006; aratisarat; churchandstate; dncstrategy; faithfuldemocrats; fakechrisitans; fakewitness; fauxchristians; fiftymillion; religiousleft; valuesvote; whataload
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1 posted on 09/06/2006 6:55:11 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

I hope they have a lot of turd polish. They will need it.


2 posted on 09/06/2006 6:56:48 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: ZGuy

Here's a complete list of Democratic Christians:


3 posted on 09/06/2006 6:56:51 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: ZGuy
A folksy anti-abortion advocate, Herron is a former minister who probably would be an attractive candidate to numerous people who attend the huge, conservative-oriented churches that have provided significant support to GOP candidates.

The DNC, Michael Moore, NARAL, and MoveON.org will not have him.

4 posted on 09/06/2006 6:57:33 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: ZGuy
A group of Christian Democrats seeking to compete against Republicans for the vote of religious Americans has started a Web site meant to serve as a forum for like thinkers and a political tool to raise money and volunteers for Democratic candidates who share their values.

Once again, the Left creates an echo chamber; gets loads of sympathetic press; brands their gathering of fruits, nuts & flakes as "the voice of America"; and still loses come election time.

5 posted on 09/06/2006 6:57:45 AM PDT by Prime Choice (Kindness to the cruel is cruelty to the kind.)
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To: ZGuy

It's backwards. Politicians co-opting religion instead of religious interjecting into politics.

Bound to fail.


6 posted on 09/06/2006 6:58:16 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: ZGuy
Their religion is liberalism, not God. And this gimmick/stunt won't fool anyone except themselves.
7 posted on 09/06/2006 6:58:24 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Forth Century)
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To: TommyDale

Never work. Christians in favor of abortion?!


8 posted on 09/06/2006 6:58:28 AM PDT by CAWats (Insert Links without HTML. Click my name.)
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To: ZGuy

The Democratic religious view reverses the responsibilities of the individual and government. To a liberal, the only sin is declaring sin to be a sin.


9 posted on 09/06/2006 6:59:02 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: ZGuy

"Minyon Moore, who advised Clinton and Jesse Jackson Sr."

Bill Clinton and Jesse Hi-jackson. That says it all!


10 posted on 09/06/2006 6:59:27 AM PDT by Disturbin (Welcome to society -- morons with keys)
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To: ZGuy

So funny. A party that supports abortion, homosexuality, criminal rights, and calls dung on the Virgin Mary "art" wonders why they're losing touch with Christians?

One of these groups is stupid and it ain't the Christians.


11 posted on 09/06/2006 7:00:15 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: ZGuy

I thought this was from The Onion. Christian Democrats? Bwahahahahaha!


12 posted on 09/06/2006 7:00:15 AM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: ZGuy

The liberals never give up with their verbal faith of being pro-life but not wanting to do anything legally to protect human life.

This is as phony as Tony Campolo talking about a "third way" for Christians etc.

A liberal ploy to deceive the faithful.


13 posted on 09/06/2006 7:00:26 AM PDT by Nextrush (Chris Matthews Band: "I get high...... I get high.....I get high.....McCain.")
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To: P-40
Yup.

"Republicans have appealed to religious voters, particularly Christians, by prominently campaigning against abortion, gay marriage and other issues."

There's a world of difference between being Christian and religious.
Christians have a personal relationship with Jesus and really, really, really want the mind of Christ. I am (we are) not a political faction.

14 posted on 09/06/2006 7:00:39 AM PDT by knarf (Sevices for my lost, now considered deceased, tagline at 2 PM .. all welcome.)
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To: ZGuy

Since when is the forced redistribution of income a Christian value? There is a biblical mandate to care for widows and orphans, but giving must be an individual choice, not a collective imperative, or it's meaningless, both to the individual being forced to "contribute" and to God.


15 posted on 09/06/2006 7:01:45 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: ZGuy

More proof they still don't get it!
The problem I have with progressives when they talk about religious values is they want the government to do their job and espouse "moral relevance".


16 posted on 09/06/2006 7:01:58 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: ZGuy

Waht a waste of time...for that matter, what Christian Democrats?


17 posted on 09/06/2006 7:02:17 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: ZGuy
I wonder if Bill Clinton will be sitting in with his prop Bible.
18 posted on 09/06/2006 7:02:52 AM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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To: P-40

After checking out the site ... most of the content can be neatly summed up with the phrase ... "We hate Republicans"


19 posted on 09/06/2006 7:03:19 AM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: ZGuy
thinkers ??

Democrats ???

Thinking ????

Maybe the Dumbocrats "feel" they are thinking.

20 posted on 09/06/2006 7:04:04 AM PDT by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: LadyNavyVet
Since when is the forced redistribution of income a Christian value? There is a biblical mandate to care for widows and orphans, but giving must be an individual choice, not a collective imperative, or it's meaningless, both to the individual being forced to "contribute" and to God.

Correct. I believe St. Paul states to give out of your abundance but not to impose or burden this giving on anyone.

21 posted on 09/06/2006 7:04:07 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: ZGuy
But, but, I thought we were only about 1% of the voting population, I have heard that many times here on FR and elsewhere. We are just a fringe group who does not win general elections.....

Why on earth are the Democrats concerned with getting our vote? LOL!!!

22 posted on 09/06/2006 7:04:35 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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To: Disturbin
"Minyon Moore, who advised Clinton and Jesse Jackson Sr."

Speaking of which, has anyone ever heard the "Reverend" Jackson speak out against abortion?

23 posted on 09/06/2006 7:04:43 AM PDT by CAWats (Insert Links without HTML. Click my name.)
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To: ZGuy

Shouldn't that be "Christian-Like" website. Bibles break into open flame upon being touched by a dim. dim... the party of evil... the party of satan and all of his minions.

LLS


24 posted on 09/06/2006 7:04:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: TommyDale

Don't fool yourself. There's a lot of them out there. I think they're misguided, but for the most part, they haven't completely bought the dem line. They would like to reform the dems from within, I think. Their biggest difference with conservative Christians is that they think globally rather than individually. Even in their theology. Social justice is a huge issue for them. Most of them are our brothers and sisters. We need to treat them as such even if we don't agree with them


25 posted on 09/06/2006 7:05:11 AM PDT by twigs
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To: ZGuy

I cant believe the dems who are a tool of the athiests are trying to fool people into believing they actually believe in God. I wonder if the ok'd this with the aclu Jessm


26 posted on 09/06/2006 7:05:22 AM PDT by jesseam
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To: CAWats
Speaking of which, has anyone ever heard the "Reverend" Jackson speak out against abortion?

Why would he? He would have about one hundred kids by now if it wasn't for the left's final solution.

27 posted on 09/06/2006 7:06:26 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: ZGuy

'and more toward such social justice issues as poverty and health care for those without insurance. '

This is just socialism wrapped up as a Christian message.


28 posted on 09/06/2006 7:06:48 AM PDT by GregH
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To: ZGuy

Christian John Kerry:"I was a Christian, before I wasn't"!


29 posted on 09/06/2006 7:07:46 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: GregH
"Social Justice" means Marxism. Every time.

A choice has to be made between the atheism of Marx and the faith of Jesus. Democrats find the choice easy.

30 posted on 09/06/2006 7:09:01 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: ZGuy
FaithfulDemocrats.com

With apologies to these probably virtuous folks...

The truly "faithful" Democrats are dedicated to:

more taxes,

illegal immigration, amnesty for Identity Theft and Social Security fraud (provided you
broke the law to get into the country,

special rights for the GLBT crowd,

and, oh well, let's just say it: rum, sodomy and the lash.

Oops, I forgot: G-d erased from the scenery and bottled up at home.
31 posted on 09/06/2006 7:09:14 AM PDT by VOA
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To: frogjerk
He would have about one hundred kids by now if it wasn't for the left's final solution.

There's an especially hot seat awaiting Jerkson.

32 posted on 09/06/2006 7:09:22 AM PDT by CAWats (Insert Links without HTML. Click my name.)
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To: ZGuy
Matthew 7:15-18

15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

33 posted on 09/06/2006 7:09:59 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: twigs

Anyone who subscribes to the Democratic Party line of thinking is automatically disqualified as a "Christian" in many churches. I think it may fall on the definition of the word "Christian". A follower of Christ would not accept abortion, partial birth abortion, homosexual marriages or any other item of the liberal agenda.


34 posted on 09/06/2006 7:10:28 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: ZGuy
Once again, this is a fools errand. This effort seeks to snare the weak and susceptible among us with their counterfeit claims.

It is as simple as this for anyone who is wants to be a Christ follower: Jesus Himself said, "I am the Way the Truth and the Life, no man comes to me except through the Father."

Will these people acknowledge that Christ is the only possible way to heaven? Their response to that question will provide everyone with their true identity and motives.
35 posted on 09/06/2006 7:11:21 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: ZGuy

Yeah, I'm an ANTI abortion Christian but I vote for Democrats.Well I'm anti liquor but I'll probably drink a sixer watching the next football game !!!


36 posted on 09/06/2006 7:12:37 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: P-40

More likely, it is a "finger the Christians" website where every good and loyal Democrat can upload information on "Christians." The site will be the archive of the "list" for action when they have regained control.


37 posted on 09/06/2006 7:12:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ZGuy

Dems launching a Christian website? All that effort for a lone ranger? Geesh - why not convert to independent and save the bandwidth?


38 posted on 09/06/2006 7:13:09 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: ZGuy


Their revamped version of Jesus.
39 posted on 09/06/2006 7:13:17 AM PDT by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: CAWats
Speaking of which, has anyone ever heard the "Reverend" Jackson speak out against abortion?

IIRC, the "old" Jesse Jackson did.
But went over to the dark side for $ and votes.

I think I heard James Dobson say that he got to sit next to Jackson
at some function years ago. After pleasant conversation, Dobson
asked Jackson "what about that abortion stance?"
IIRC, Jackson simply said to Dobson something like "That's something
we'll never talk about".
40 posted on 09/06/2006 7:13:26 AM PDT by VOA
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To: TommyDale

I had a friend who passed away a few years ago. He was a died inteh wool new deal dem. He served in WW2, got out joined a union and worked in the plants his whole life. He was even a union shop steward. He voted in his first election 1940 and his last 1994. After that he could no longer stomach the rat party. He told me this once, "Son, if your family does not make at least $250K you have no business voting republican, but now days if you are a Christian you have no business voting democrat either."


41 posted on 09/06/2006 7:14:07 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: ZGuy

Separation of church and state. Applies to everyone else.


42 posted on 09/06/2006 7:14:21 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: ZGuy
If it wasn't for us "demanding" old, no funny business Christians these types of weenie Christians would have never survived to this day.

Let them squeal away about peace on earth and reducing poverty while they help the Anti-American leftists destroy one of few truly generous places on earth where they can practice their faith freely and peacefully.

Yea....I wanna be a Christian Dem about as much as I want to be thrown from a bell tower.

Take a hike "faithful" D's.

43 posted on 09/06/2006 7:14:37 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: twigs

I agree with you. Some of them are sincere. To some degree, Catholic Church also has ideal about social justice that is many Democrats share, as well as anti death-penalty. They're, however, also against things that most Democrats embrace, such as abortion, gay marriage, freedom from religion, and so on. These things really turn them off (and Christians in general) that at the end they prefer Republican.


44 posted on 09/06/2006 7:14:44 AM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: CAWats
Speaking of which, has anyone ever heard the "Reverend" Jackson speak out against abortion?

Imus used to play a clip of him doing just that way back when. Of course, now that abortion is a sacrament for liberals, Jessa knows where his bread is buttered and is happy to tow the party line. He's as much a reverend as I am the 12th Imam.
45 posted on 09/06/2006 7:15:17 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: paudio

Ooopss... social justice that many Democrats share...


46 posted on 09/06/2006 7:15:59 AM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: ZGuy

Time to infiltrate and make sure the scriptures aren't twisted to fit their agenda.


47 posted on 09/06/2006 7:16:20 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (There's a fine, fine line between a stoat and a sporkweasel.)
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To: VOA
IIRC, Jackson simply said to Dobson something like "That's something
we'll never talk about".


Unbelievable.

48 posted on 09/06/2006 7:16:47 AM PDT by CAWats (Insert Links without HTML. Click my name.)
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To: ZGuy
Mr. Wilhelm needs to spend a few minutes over at DU. There he would find that Christians are not allowed in the Democratic Party.

In fact, I think much of the Bush hatred by the left derives from his open Christianity.

49 posted on 09/06/2006 7:19:26 AM PDT by TravisBickle (Are you talkin' to me?)
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To: Hydroshock

Your friend was quite wise. I think the $250,000 level is a bit high, but certainly anyone with considerable assets and net worth would be more likely to be a Republican.


50 posted on 09/06/2006 7:21:57 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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