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WASH POST: It's unfortunate so many people took Joe Wilson seriously...(Drudge headline)
Washington Post ^ | Sept. 1, 2006

Posted on 09/01/2006 6:46:03 AM PDT by AZRepublican

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To: shrinkermd

Looks like "Fake but Accurate," to me.


141 posted on 09/01/2006 10:42:19 AM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: AZRepublican

Sometimes the MSM does have a conscience. But, not very often.


142 posted on 09/01/2006 10:59:14 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Texas Songwriter; All
Rather/Mapes/Burkett/Lockhart = DNC/MSM Scam1.0

Wilson/Plame/Cooper/Miller = DNC/MSM Scam2.0 with CIA OP's

143 posted on 09/01/2006 11:25:01 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: johnny7

I found this link over at JOM (to DU, an email from Joe Wilson) regarding the editorial in the WAPO:

ia email:

You may have seen this morning's editorial in the Post. It manages to recycle pretty much every lie and smear over the past three years in a last ditch effort to divert attention from the facts, and the role the Post itself played both in the march to war and in the leak (see Woodward).

I know many of you are better versed in Plamegate than either Valerie or I and I also know that some of you will be addressing the editorial.

I want to let you know how much Valerie and I continue to be buoyed by your support and your dedication to getting the truth out and holding the administration and its lackeys accountable for the terrible policies they have foisted on our country and on the world. We must keep fighting.

As you think about this, our website (Wilsonsupport.org) has a copy of the letter I sent to the SSCI when its report first came out, challenging some of its conclusions. The LeftCoaster has a terrific study by eriposte on the whole Niger forgery case from beginning to end. Firedoglake and the Next Hurrah both have highly informative analyses of the case by skilled researchers and former prosecutors. I recommend them all as resoruces to jog memories. by this afternoon, I expect that our own team will have an updated set of talking points to distribute for your use as well.

Each of you in one way or another has contributed to the public's (and in many cases our own) understanding of the issues from the beginning. Thank you for continuing to do so.

Joe Wilson

Thought everyone here would get a charge out of it! LOL.


144 posted on 09/01/2006 11:34:29 AM PDT by Laverne
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To: Enchante

Don't you think he sounded STUPID when he said he sipped tea all day long at the hotel. I think he did just the opposite.....don't know WHAT he did but it wasn;t sipping tea all day long at the hotel.


145 posted on 09/01/2006 11:35:56 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: shrinkermd; STARWISE; ravingnutter
In fact, Armitage learned about Plame's CIA association from a memo written in response to a request from Cheney's office for information about Wilson.

How the hell do they know that?

What memo is that? I've never seen one.

As for the rest of it, do they always just make stuff up like that?

146 posted on 09/01/2006 11:42:28 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: AZRepublican

"Unaware that Ms. Plame's identity was classified information..."

IT WAS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


147 posted on 09/01/2006 11:45:24 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: FreedomNeocon

"He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife."



It's amazing that they can say this with a straight-face. Why was Novak the "only" journalist even asking these questions if they were so obvious? Even now, some liberals are still claiming this was a smear campaign...even though they admit that the administration had a right to look into it. Of course they did...Wilson was implying that the VPs office had sent him, when Cheney had no idea who he was.

And then, Wilson lied about turning over the report to Administration officials who spiked it, when he did no such thing. All the media had to do was read the Senate Intel Report from long-ago to see what a fraud Wilson was...but they chose to ignore it and continue perpetuating his lies.
Even with this latest admission they are in still in denial, misrepresenting facts surrounding this case.


148 posted on 09/01/2006 12:05:55 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *sses.)
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To: All

I still can't get enough of these two sentences which describe this whole affair quite succinctly.
Joe outed Val and LIED about the Niger claims:

Nevertheless, it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming -- falsely, as it turned out -- that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials.


149 posted on 09/01/2006 12:41:58 PM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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To: Laverne

I heard Wilson sat down with Jason Leopold... when he composed this. ;)


150 posted on 09/01/2006 12:45:52 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: b4its2late
Like the WP didn't know the whole truth......

Correctamundo!

151 posted on 09/01/2006 12:50:57 PM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: AZRepublican

In my opinion, it's unfortunate that so many people take The Washington Post seriously...


152 posted on 09/01/2006 12:52:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: johnny7
Rather/Mapes/Burkett/Lockhart = DNC/MSM Scam1.0 Wilson/Plame/Cooper/Miller = DNC/MSM Scam2.0 with CIA OP's

I surmise that we have been putting up with these prevarications and confabulated hit pieces by the MSM since I was born. These people in the media in sinc with the DNC are about as despicable as any people on the face of the earth. I don't believe a g******mn thing they say anymore. We are screwed, blued, and tatooed if the dems gain control of any house or the presedency.

153 posted on 09/01/2006 1:10:15 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Texas Songwriter

TimesWatch Tracker: Our Latest Analysis
Friday, September 1, 2006

Plame-Gate: The Story the Times Would Now Rather Forget

Valerie who? The paper of record seems to need a reminder.

Judging by its sparse coverage, the Times is apparently trying to pretend the Valerie Plame "outing," which for three years was a matter of national import on its editorial page, news pages, and among its stable of liberal columnists, is no longer even newsworthy now that the inconvenient truth (Armitage?) is out.

Plame's CIA identity was leaked to Robert Novak, not by a vengeful White House out to get her husband (anti-war liar Joe Wilson), but by Colin Powell's Secretary of State Richard Armitage, not heretofore known as Bush's biggest defender regarding U.S. intervention in Iraq.

As a reminder, here are some of the accusations against the Bush administration that appeared in the Times that have now been proven false. We cite them here, since the Times certainly won't.

Reporter Scott Shane, July 24, 2005: "The White House response to Mr. Wilson's accusations, as it unfolded over the next eight days, would be aggressive and comprehensive. At home and from the African road trip, in on-the-record briefings and in background tips to reporters, the president's aides sought to rebut Mr. Wilson's statements and undercut his credibility....But in the enthusiasm of the campaign to discredit Mr. Wilson, someone would expose the real job of the diplomat's wife, Valerie, a C.I.A. officer who had worked under cover for two decades, hiding her position from even close friends and relatives. Whether thoughtless or deliberate, the shattering of Valerie Wilson's cover would prompt the C.I.A. to seek a criminal investigation into the leak. And the investigation would be turned over to a special counsel with a reputation for relentlessly pursuing his quarry."

A Dec. 31, 2003 editorial: "Mr. Fitzgerald is charged with finding out who violated federal law by giving the name of the undercover intelligence operative to Mr. Novak for publication in his column...."

Columnist Paul Krugman, July 7, 2006: "And President Bush is especially unworthy of our trust, because on every front -- from his refusal to protect chemical plants to his officials' exposure of Valerie Plame, from his toleration of war profiteering to his decision to place the C.I.A. in the hands of an incompetent crony -- he has consistently played politics with national security."

Krugman, October 31, 2005: "The fact remains that officials close to both Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush leaked the identity of an undercover operative for political reasons. Whether or not that act was illegal, it was clearly unpatriotic."

Krugman, Jan. 16, 2004: "…the Bush people really are Nixonian. The bogus security investigation over Ron Suskind's 'The Price of Loyalty,' like the outing of Valerie Plame, shows the lengths they're willing to go to in intimidating their critics."

By contrast, the Washington Post bluntly states in an editorial today that "one of the most sensational charges leveled against the Bush White House -- that it orchestrated the leak of Ms. Plame's identity to ruin her career and thus punish Mr. Wilson -- is untrue."

Citing history, Tom Maguire speculates the Times may feel obliged to respond to the Washington Post's dismissal of Plame-gate. That should be a fun read.


154 posted on 09/01/2006 1:14:19 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: CedarDave; justshutupandtakeit

Oops, my mistake. They were indeed porcine and not bovine creatures flying around this morning.


155 posted on 09/01/2006 2:02:19 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (I would never belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

The bovines do contribute mightly to the Party of Treason propaganda machine though.


156 posted on 09/01/2006 2:04:55 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Didn't one of the stories about this state that Colin Powell called then WH lawyer, Alberto Gonzalez, and tell him that he knew blah, blah, blah, and does the WH want to know what he knows or should he just tell the justice department???? And Gonzalez told him to tell the justice department? And isn't it protocol during investigations to say what you need to say to the authorities and no one else because you could jeopardize an investigation?


157 posted on 09/01/2006 2:21:37 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: george76

LOL!


158 posted on 09/01/2006 2:23:32 PM PDT by CarolinaGOP ("Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: AZRepublican

SNORT.


159 posted on 09/01/2006 2:36:08 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Texas Songwriter

" I surmise that we have been putting up with these prevarications and confabulated hit pieces by the MSM since I was born. "

Am I the only one who now questions any historical " facts " as reported by the media the last 40 years ?
If only we had talk radio and the internet during the 60s, 70s and 80s.


160 posted on 09/01/2006 2:57:34 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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