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Conservative Case Against Rudy Giuliani
Human Events ^ | August 30 2006 | John Hawkins

Posted on 08/30/2006 9:09:02 AM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: Jake The Goose

"Rudy is by far the leader of the pack right now. For a simple reason - he is a leader."

Do you think conservatives want to be led down the road of liberalism? There are lots of "leaders". We need to find a leader who will lead in the "right" direction.


21 posted on 08/30/2006 9:27:00 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: MikeA

"I guess now that trashing McCain has worn itself out, it's on to trashing Guiliani."

If you read the article and still believe that Rudy is a good conservative candidate you deserve him as your president.


22 posted on 08/30/2006 9:27:00 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Prokopton

Leaders don't poll - they lead - you choose to follow, lead yourself - or watch the rest of us.


23 posted on 08/30/2006 9:28:29 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: romanesq
Absolutely. I worked in NYC during Dinkins, it was scary and disgusting in NYC. Then Rudy. Before Rudy, I saw someone get arrested for Crack on the street near I work. Young and old people sitting in their own urine on 5th ave. I never felt safe walking to Penn at dark. Come in Rudy and made that city awesome. Just incredible. If someone did not see this, they could never believe the difference.

I do not agree with his social issues but if he's the only man who can win, he will be strong with our National Security. I'm voting for him. I fear the worse with lack of Troops support and terrorism attacks with a liberal winning. Common sense dictates.

24 posted on 08/30/2006 9:28:46 AM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: BaBaStooey

You base you selection on a President on abortion alone?

Please tell me that's not true.


25 posted on 08/30/2006 9:29:32 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Reagan Man

Thank you for posting all this. Really good to know as much as we can about the candidates -- where they stand on issues and so forth.

That said, I think we are going to be hard pressed to find a candidate who will have the qualities we need AND share our beliefs on issues such as abortion and homosexuality. Somewhere along the line, when choosing a candidate, we are going to have sacrifice something. None of the prospective candidates (both parties) is particularly appealing to me 100%. Seems they all have something I don't like. At this point, I don't know who I would vote for if the election were held today. It could be that Giuliani may still wind up being the best of the crop. And given the crop out there, that may not be saying much.


26 posted on 08/30/2006 9:31:31 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: mhx
I'll tell you what he knows about foreign policy. He essentially placed Yassar Arafat under house arrest when he was i NYC for the UN speech. The howl from the State Department and the Clintoon administration was loud enough to prove that Rudy was correct in his actions.
27 posted on 08/30/2006 9:31:40 AM PDT by noname07718
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To: Jake The Goose
I'll bet a lot of people do.
28 posted on 08/30/2006 9:32:03 AM PDT by linda_22003
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29 posted on 08/30/2006 9:32:28 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Tampa Bay, Florida. Prayers for all in the storms path.)
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To: linda_22003

That's a very very scary thought.


30 posted on 08/30/2006 9:32:34 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: GodBlessUSA

It's great to have another New York cite their personal experience from the time of David Dinky to Rudy. It's literally the transformation of a cesspool with no hope into the Reagan vision of a city on the hill.

Stats can point to the 1 million people on welfare and that transformation to I believe 400K today but the numbers don't tell the full story.

People need to understand that certain social issues will not be decided at the Executive level but at the state. Supreme Court may one day kick abortion back to the states, etc., but one should not be dissuaded from voting for Rudy as a result. In fact that would be a reason to vote for him as he would not be a central player at all on this and other social issues.

I don't believe he would kill the 2nd Amendment either.


31 posted on 08/30/2006 9:33:02 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Reagan Man
The writer's first sentence is bogus. The press and media have been conducting a slow, steady campaign against Rudy. There are books and even an anti-Rudy documentary due out soon.

I'm a Mitt Romney fan, but I would throw out any statement made by Rudy before 9/11. I believe he was transformed.

32 posted on 08/30/2006 9:33:32 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Jake The Goose
>>>>Look at FreeRepublics own poll.

There have been a whole lot of polls on Free Republic this year. The current one is the most hypothetical poll I've seen so far. We're over two years out from the general election and such a poll is worthless as tits on a bull. I'll bet many FReepers don't even know Giuliani's politics on some of the critical issues of concern to conservatives.

You and several other FReepers are spending a great deal of your time on rightwing Free Republic attempting to ram a liberal politico down the throats of conservatives. Instead of working to get a liberal as the GOP nominee in 2008, why not work to get a Republican who will advance the conservative agenda for America.

Rudy Giuliani doesn't even come close to being a moderate politician, let alone a conservative. Giuliani is a liberal to his core beliefs. John Hawkins does a good job of revealing Giuliani's liberalism in his article.

33 posted on 08/30/2006 9:36:07 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: romanesq

As a conservative, I cannot argue your points.

Giuliani is not who I'd prefer, but look at who's running...He's head and shoulders above the pack.


34 posted on 08/30/2006 9:38:20 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Reagan Man

I would vote Democrat before I would vote for Guiliani, just because if a liberal has to win I would prefer it be a Democrat. No Republican liberals allowed.


35 posted on 08/30/2006 9:38:35 AM PDT by Dreagon
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To: Reagan Man

Nice try.

Rudy runs circles around the rest of the Republican field - only one man can debate with Rudy and that's Newt - and Newt will never ever win a popular election.

Your knowledge of Rudy is based not on his words - but the words of others.

Better get used to the idea of Rudy as the republican nominee, or you can say you'll sit out - like many do.


36 posted on 08/30/2006 9:39:16 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: MikeA
The "macaca" word has use in several languages. Does anyone, for instance, know the meaning of the word as used in the Philippines?
37 posted on 08/30/2006 9:39:52 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Reagan Man

Great post. Wish the Rudybots would find someone else to worship.


38 posted on 08/30/2006 9:39:54 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: Reagan Man

The rules for being president these days are:
1)Be over 6ft tall
2)Have a full head of hair
3)Must have 1 and 2


39 posted on 08/30/2006 9:40:26 AM PDT by Marius3188 ( I have not told half of what I saw - Marco Polo)
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To: Jake The Goose

I agree with you!


40 posted on 08/30/2006 9:40:40 AM PDT by linda_22003
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