Schwarzenegger Squashes Religious Freedom (SB 1441 SIGNED!!!)

SAVE CALIFORNIA ^ | 08/28/06

[L.N. Smithee]

The wording of the bill your link led me to seemed fairly innocuous.

The devil is in the details. And I do mean "the devil."

You don't know Sheila Kuehl, Mark Leno, or the handful of homosexual California legislators whose lives are dedicated to using the Democratic majority in the state to ramrod laws onto the books that encode their agenda to normalize homosexuality and transgenderism (and YES! THERE IS AN AGENDA!!!). Their goal is to attach unnatural, abnormal sexual practices to the list of racial and ethnic minorities who are already listed as "protected classes" because of perceived institutional discrimination.

Take it from someone who knows. I have lived in San Francisco my entire life and have watched as marches to stop violence against homosexuals have morphed into demands for same-sex marriage and against the right of parents to change their child's classroom after a teacher "outed" himself to them.

[kinoxi]

You read it too? Glad somebody else did.
;)

[Heartofsong83]

What is the other option? Stay home? Lesser-evil politics gets you nowhere...

[FairOpinion]

"This person is more likely to be a DU troll making laughable comments than a conservative. "


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BINGO! Congratulations. You broke the code -- there is no prize, other than knowing that you are right.

Part of the Angelides win strategy IS to turn conservatives against Arnold, to get them to stay home or vote third party, to give Angelides a better chance to win.

I compiled just a few such Dem statements:

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A Recipe for Success (for Angelides) (Conservatives are Angelides' secret weapon)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1689690/posts

Here are some things he could do:

o Attack Arnold from the right :

§ Illegal immigration–Arnold has angered the conservative base with some of his comments on this issue. The Angelides campaign, or perhaps an anti-Arnold independent expenditure campaign, could attack Arnold in the mail or on the radio and use Arnold’s own words against him.

§ Taxes/government spending–The state government continues to run what is essentially a deficit and Arnold’s numerous proposals to increase government spending and borrowing turn off Republicans. This line of attack could also mitigate some of the tax attacks against Angelides.


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Schwarzenegger Hears Rumbles From the Right

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685932/posts


" low conservative turnout will loom as a key peril for the governor and a prime source of hope for Democrats."


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"Angelides ... must win 80% of the Dems and a solid majority of the DTS (declined to state) registrants, TO ACCOMPANY THE 15% REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T VOTE FOR THEIR PARTY'S TICKET"

ANGELIDES IS COUNTING ON THEM.


http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2006/07/new_poll_result.html


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Angelides team bullish on California's blue state math (counting on CONSERVATIVES, to win)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676818/posts

Angelides' camp believes that while the governor enjoys support among some Democrats now, by the time ballots are cast in November, the base will remain loyal.

They also believe that the opposite will occur with the Republicans because Schwarzenegger's recent move to the left on key issues such as immigration and the environment has alienated conservatives.



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To pull off a win, Angelides must seize his opportunities

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683377/posts


"But it will not be easy, and Angelides must take full advantage of the opportunities: ... the governor's sometimes tense relationship with conservatives; "

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[L.N. Smithee]

YES or NO?

[L.N. Smithee]

Notice how your question is avoided by staytrue? The silence is deafening.

[kinoxi]

You quote names I am unfamiliar with to reinforce situations I am unfamiliar with. If you can highlight what part of this bill contains the 'devil', I may be able to give a more coherent response.

[freepatriot32]

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[Plutarch]

I can't believe he did this.

[staytrue]

You don't like arnold, go ahead and vote for someone else.

But if you think that a third party candidate is going to win in November, you are a kook.

[staytrue]

So you think a third party candidate will be viable in November.

[goldstategop]

The course is simple. Religious institutions and private educational bodies will have to to refuse to accept state aid. Its either that or be taken over by the radical Left.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

[L.N. Smithee]

So you think a third party candidate will be viable in November.

One more time, you coward!

If you were a Republican Governor of California, WOULD YOU HAVE SIGNED THIS BILL?

YES, OR NO???

[goldstategop]

Arnold has never been a social conservative. If any one still fancied delusions on that score, they've been dispelled. He will do whatever it takes to stay in power, including giving the base the back of his hand.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

[staytrue]

You know, as I get older, I can't read fine print.

Could you make the font a little larger in your post 53?

[L.N. Smithee]

I can't believe he did this.

I can't honestly say I am surprised he did it. I am shocked he did it so quietly, without even giving the appearance of being conflicted.

[calcowgirl]

Exactly. This used to be a horrible bill, teaching in schools the accomplishements of homosexuals, etc., but Arnold told them he will veto it, so to save face they basically took out everything and just so they still have a bill , they have this, just added sexual orientation to the list of things state agencies are not supposed to discriminate against.

Absolutely 100% WRONG! Do you just make this stuff up? The language in this bill remains unchanged. Most likely, you are talking about SB1437 is still in process and hasn't hit the Governor's desk yet. Arnold never commented on this bill (SB1441), nor on the handful of OTHER PRO-GLBT legislation making its way to his desk.

Just like last year, he vetoed ONLY ONE of the PRO-GLBT bills sent to him, the marriage bill. In the meantime, the GLBT agenda continues to win victories through other legislation kept out of the media limelight.

[L.N. Smithee]

You know, as I get older, I can't read fine print. Could you make the font a little larger in your post 53?

Never mind. We know your answer. You would have signed this outrageous bill because you can't be counted on to stand for any principles if you think it might cause you to lose an election. Thank you for showing your true stripes.

[kinoxi]

What part of the actual wording do you object to? I am curious.

[goldstategop]

I'm not shocked it all. Arnold made it clear from the outset he had no problems with gay rights, gay marriage and the rest of the liberal social agenda. The only people shocked at those who chose to be in denial of his liberal views. His signature of this bill makes it clear where he stands. I can't vote for him and I couldn't vote for Angelides either. I'd be betraying everything I believe in. There's no way I can support this kind of Republican.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )