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Hip Hop Site Juxtaposes Cosby's Call to Responsibility With Gangsta Crime News
AllHipHop.com/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 08/24/2006 5:19:52 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

August 24, 2006 - 07:32

Talk about your culture clash! A hip hop music site juxtaposes a report on Bill Cosby's condemnation of that musical genre with news of the latest criminal doings of hip hop stars. AllHipHop.com bills itself as 'The World's Most Dangerous Site.' Currently up on the site is an article reporting a recent speech in which Cosby . . . "went on the offensive against rap music."

States the article:

"'They put the word 'nigga' in a song, and we get up and dance to it,' Cosby said.

"The two-hour Coppin State University-hosted event dubbed 'Fatherhood Works,' was the last stop on the entertainer's day-long visit to the city.

"In addition to hip-hop, Cosby expressed his views on teenage pregnancy, re-emphasized the importance of a good education and urged fathers to take a more active role in raising their kids, as he visited three West Baltimore elementary schools and the church."

So here was AllHipHop [which bills itself as The World's Most Dangerous Site] respectfully passing along Cosby's anti-hip hop message. Meanwhile . . . to the right of the Cosby article is a column with links to the latest news from the hip hop world. But while reports of new record deals and other doings were mixed in, much of it read like a 'rap' sheet of an altogether different sort. Examples:

Foxy Brown Misses New Jersey Court Date, Must Attend Next Hearing

Estate of Slain Man In CCC Club Files Lawsuit Against Proof Estate

Man Who Was Allegedly Beaten By Busta Rhymes Planning Civil Lawsuit

Busta Rhymes Arrested After AmsterJam

Young City Appears In Baltimore Court, Bail Set At $75,000

C-Murder Back On House Arrest

Judge Defends Decision in C-Murder Case

Lil' Wayne Arrested In Atlanta For Drug Possession

Young City Jailed On Armed Robbery Charge

Police Seek Suspects In Skanbino Mob Murders

Lil' Kim Off House Arrest Aug 3., Preparing Season 2 Of 'Countdown To Lockdown'

If proof were needed that the problem that Cosby spoke of is very real, here it was.

Juan Williams has recently written a book whose title tells it all: "Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-end Movements, And Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America." Interestingly, in his column of this morning, A Triumph of Felons and Failure [subscription required], NY Times columnist Bob Herbert praises the book and reiterates its message in these terms: "It is up to blacks themselves to embrace the current opportunities for academic achievement and professional advancement, to build the strong families that allow youngsters to flourish, and to create a cultural environment that turns its back on crime, ignorance and self-abasement."

Could Cosby's message be part of a hopeful trend among black leaders?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: billcosby; bobherbert; crime; hiphopmusic; juanwilliams; nytimes

1 posted on 08/24/2006 5:19:54 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Hip Hop/NewsBusters ping to all my homies in the Today show hood.


2 posted on 08/24/2006 5:21:04 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

RAP/HIP-HOP a dangerous delving into the gutter. It needs to wiped out along with Islam.


3 posted on 08/24/2006 5:23:53 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Word Yo!


4 posted on 08/24/2006 5:23:53 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt 08!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Some of the lines in the late Tupac Shakur's tracks could have been spoken by Cosby.

-Eric

5 posted on 08/24/2006 5:25:20 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
“I luv my niggaz... but where's my bitches?!” -DMX
6 posted on 08/24/2006 5:27:27 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I didn't go to the site, but they couldn't have done a better job of reinforcing Cos's viewpoint.

Having said that, I can't really say that rap is actually music anymore. There are no actual instruments being played, it's all electronic. It's more like karaoke.

Rap could be called poetry (bad poetry), but to me it's what some like to call music that is made for black AND white men who can't sing or dance.
7 posted on 08/24/2006 5:31:40 AM PDT by subterfuge (If Liberals hated terrorists like they hate Bush the war would be over by now)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Fo' Shizzle.


8 posted on 08/24/2006 5:36:45 AM PDT by JRios1968 (This kid knows how to wallop a baseball!!!!!!)
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To: subterfuge

[Having said that, I can't really say that rap is actually music anymore. There are no actual instruments being played, it's all electronic. It's more like karaoke.

Rap could be called poetry (bad poetry), but to me it's what some like to call music that is made for black AND white men who can't sing or dance.]

Tell me about it. I long for the days when the Beastie Boyz hit it old schoold. What ever happened to Hambone and Run DMC style hip hop?

Word?


9 posted on 08/24/2006 5:40:59 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (War Monger...In the name of liberty, let's go to war!!!!)
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To: JRios1968

Hip-hop isn't my native language, so I had to look this one up:

"fo shizzle ma nizzle" is a bastardization of "fo' sheezy mah neezy" which is a bastardization of "for sure mah nigga" which is a bastdardization of "I concur with you whole heartedly my African american brother"


10 posted on 08/24/2006 5:41:20 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Hip Hop is not music. Hip Hop is a rotten disease. Hip Hop is generally lazy crap.

Blacks are getting ill listening to it ............. along with whitey.

There, I feel better. (Doo-Wap was MUSIC!)

:-)

11 posted on 08/24/2006 5:41:45 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Oh good .............. it's August 24th and we're still here. Who'd a thunk it?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Cosby has made it clear to blacks exactly why there aren't more black doctors,lawyers and business executives.But it looks as if his advice is being ignored....if not ridiculed.
12 posted on 08/24/2006 5:42:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: beyond the sea
Doo wap was music.

Yes, but it was so long ago that there could lyrics like those below from 'Who Wrote the Book of Love?' in which 'gay' could be used without irony:

Why do birds sing so gay
And lovers await the break of the day
Why do they fall in love?

13 posted on 08/24/2006 5:45:10 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: Fresh Wind

14 posted on 08/24/2006 5:48:04 AM PDT by JRios1968 (This kid knows how to wallop a baseball!!!!!!)
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To: Fresh Wind

Excuse me, I speak Jive...
15 posted on 08/24/2006 5:49:57 AM PDT by JRios1968 (This kid knows how to wallop a baseball!!!!!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
It is up to blacks themselves to embrace the current opportunities for academic achievement and professional advancement, to build the strong families that allow youngsters to flourish, and to create a cultural environment that turns its back on crime, ignorance and self-abasement."

Black conservatives have been harping on this theme for years, heck, for decades. But watch the MSM herald Cosby and Williams as if they are the smartest and most courageous black men in the world to have come to this conclusion.

It's welcome to hear this viewpoint expressed, but as long as the Revs. Jackson and Sharpton are the ad hoc spokespeople for blacks, the message will continue to be that white people are to blame and only government, run by Democrats, can provide solutions.

16 posted on 08/24/2006 5:51:22 AM PDT by randita
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The "Gays" should just refer to themselves as "Perturbeds".

That's really what they are (not that there's anything wrong with that).

17 posted on 08/24/2006 5:53:39 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Oh good .............. it's August 24th and we're still here. Who'd a thunk it?)
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To: JRios1968

LOL - that movie was hilarious!


18 posted on 08/24/2006 5:54:33 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Get off my lawn!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Surely you can't be series...


19 posted on 08/24/2006 5:56:31 AM PDT by JRios1968 (This kid knows how to wallop a baseball!!!!!!)
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To: JRios1968

"Looks like I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue."


20 posted on 08/24/2006 6:02:59 AM PDT by RayStacy
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To: Tenacious 1

The only "band" I know of that has any integrity to their music at all in the hip-hop genre is a white guy named Kid Rock. Dude kicks it old school man!!


21 posted on 08/24/2006 6:20:19 AM PDT by subterfuge (If Liberals hated terrorists like they hate Bush the war would be over by now)
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To: JRios1968
Surely you can't be series...

Please don't call me Shirley
22 posted on 08/24/2006 6:21:03 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Get off my lawn!)
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To: randita
But watch the MSM herald Cosby and Williams as if they are the smartest and most courageous black men in the world to have come to this conclusion.

Maybe I misunderstand your post, but this is never going to happen. The MSM is totally on board with the genre and will actually emphasize Coz's "being out of the mainstream," as they push the notion that rappers are simply misunderstood and they should be free to explore the depts of their "oppresion".

23 posted on 08/24/2006 6:26:23 AM PDT by subterfuge (If Liberals hated terrorists like they hate Bush the war would be over by now)
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