Posted on 08/17/2006 3:37:53 AM PDT by goldstategop
(IsraelNN.com) A group of reserve soldiers, who were recently discharged and are setting up a forum, have called upon Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Defense Minister Amir Peretz, and Foreign Minister Tsipi Livni to resign. Tonight the soldiers will be holding a demonstration at Rabin Square in Tel Aviv at 7p.m. The demonstration is expected to be the first of several, under the banner, “You failed – resign!”
In a petition publicized by the forum, the public is asked to sign the following: “We are very worried about the fate of the country. From all ends of the political spectrum, we are calling upon the government, headed by the prime minister, to take personal responsibility for its failure and resign. We believe that we have the power as individuals rallying together, to declare, ‘Never again!’”
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)
Note to Israel: Next time around remember that you get what you vote for.
I often wish that our own returning soldiers would be more politically active, as in telling the rats and the media to STFU.
I didn't know John Kerry, Cindy Sheehan and John Murtha had duel citizenship.
Ehud would be fine as, say, the mayor of some nice suburban town in America where his biggest concern is dog doo and parking spaces. As an Israeli leader tho, he ain't cuttting it.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)
It's election time in Israel and this is politics at it's ugliest!
In every American ar since Korea , America has fought "Limited wars". and lost.
You cannot win limited wars against people with no limits.
So who's a "cowboy"?
I am under the impression that Israel is a parliamentary democracy. In most models of this form of government an election is called when the government loses the confidence of parliament. Could someone explain what the procedure is in Israel.
Israel, like the state of New York, is not likely to vote out the socialists that cause such dangerous national security conditions. Did anything change after Clinton's weakening of pre-911 security mechanisms? It will take millions dying to change the voting preferences of those seeking to vote themselves free stuff.
All this chatter about how the war could have, should have, beeen won in seven days like in days of old are similar to the insanity here from the likes of Kennedy. He did the count on how quickly we defeated the Japanese and the Germans and wants to know how is it we are still in Iraq.
Urban warfare is horrifically dangerous to the Israeli's for more than just the danger to the soldiers.....it's fighting world opinion as well. Israel feels a special obligation to protect innocent life.
Not much different than the socialists, America haters and deniers of danger here in the US.
Bibi is waiting in the wings. How sad for Israel.
Americans voted for Bill Clinton twice.
Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.
Encouraging to see that Israel still has a warrior class......perhaps there is still hope for the civilized world yet.
Here, here.
Did these guys want more fighting or more talk?
Are you saying that Bibi is bad for Israel?
That's a good tagline for someone... I'm going to keep mine, though...
It appears their male population has higher testosterone levels than ours.
Why would you consider Bibi sad for Israel?
"Is Benjamin Netanyahu a hardliner?"
He's as conservative, tough and hardline as they get. He long called for the death/imprisonment of Arafat when others were giving him a Nobel Peace Prize.
I love strong decisive men. I would vote for him in a heartbeat, but alas, I'm not eligible. I can instead pray for Israel to take a stand for their future and pray that the US does the same.
They didn't vote for Olmert directly, did they?
Israel's version of Mike Bloomberg, eh?
"Is Benjamin Netanyahu a hardliner?"
Yes Yes Yes, and we can only pray that this is the direction Israel is moving toward. This cease fire is only postponing a much greater loss of life. Savage put it simply last night: At some point Israel - or the US - will have to take out Iran's nuclear facility. It really is that simple
Are we waiting for the August 22 Iran reply to the UN regarding their nuke capabilities? Why wait, let's take them out now and spare the suspense.
Where can we donate?
More fighting.
FWIW, the state of NY is made up of red counties mostly. If Upstate had its own state, Downstate could have all the 'Rats and RINOs with our blessing.
Nope, but they voted for the pols who did.
Unfortunately, they are. They're called democrats.
Conservatives are by nature not activists....including FR if you think about it. FR is a place to go hide and agree with each other anonymously. Freepers can be found recently at counter-protests, but nothing like what leftists do running around door-to-door telling people that John Kerry served in Vietnam.
As Rush says, " Did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam?" Quick! Name a conservative veteran with that same name recognition and association with veteranness!
Actually, the toon got less than half both times. Gore is the one who got over 50% of the popular vote, but not of the electoral vote (THANK GOODNESS!!!!)
Olmerde also received less than half the vote.
Sorry. I keep forgetting that. Should have said that the city of New York, like Israel, has voted in socialists that will get a few million killed before voters see the error of their ways.
take Halutz with you too...
He has the same moral values as slick willie and managed to nearly destroy his party during his time in office. Sound familiar?
Seems like it's not different there than here in the US.
Their pols are no different than our leftist pols.
what is *NOT* debatable is that the a bosnia-style airwar, along with on-again off-again ground intervention, was worse than effective given the results we now have to live with.
sorry olmert, peretz, livni and halutz -- you guys are the ones who ratcheted up the kidnapping to a real war without having a gameplan... time to go.
"Are we waiting for the August 22 Iran reply to the UN regarding their nuke capabilities? Why wait, let's take them out now and spare the suspense."
Everywhere I discuss this, the debate usually runs this spectrum: from the Democrats in denial, who think diplomacy should should go on ad naseum and think Iran is another propaganda device for more war(these same people often refer to Hezzies as a social netweork). Then there's Bush's staunch supporters, who believe that diplomacy will go on as long as it has to, but that those in Bush's admin. know every angle of the situation, wiegh their strategies, and force will be used when the time is appropriate. Then there's those on the right who are labeled more "hard-line" who think that the longer we wait to deal with Iran, the more problematic the situation becomes. In other words, take them out asap. They still respect the president but wish he would be even more aggressive than he already is. The Israel/Hezbollah conflict seems to follow the same line of debate.
I must be a hardliner then. Why wait for the inevitable? How many times does Almadinanutjob need to say DEATH TO ISRAEL DEATH TO AMERICA before we take him seriously? He wants a fight, let's give him what he wants. So for me, it's DEATH TO ISLAMIC FACISTS everywhere. I don't care where they live.
Guess you wanted to wait to respond till the perfect plan was in place.
The Iranians had other ideas.
Bibi for starters.
There is really no other option excepting the untenable status quo on the one hand, or returning to full scale military governance of the disputed territories on the other. Although the later would clearly be to the benefit of the Palestinians (whatever they say) nothing is more obvious than that the political will to do this is nonexistent in Israel.
Israelis are understandably and irrevocably fed up with the thankless task of governing Palestinians, for which they are only demonized even when, objectively, they do a far better and more humane job of it than any Arab government (partially excepting Jordan). It just ain't gonna happen.
Once this is recognized then disengagement is the only option. HOWEVER a vigorous policy of deterrence is an absolutely ESSENTIAL component of the disengagement strategy. The Ohmert government has failed miserably in this regard, and the only way to reestablish deterrence is for it to resign.
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