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California selects plan to protect ocean wildlife
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 8/15/06 | Marcus Wohlsen - ap

Posted on 08/15/2006 10:34:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge
...to protect California's rich array of marine wildlife moved closer to becoming a reality...

Too bad they won't move closer to protecting California's rich array of preborn human life.

21 posted on 08/16/2006 3:19:37 AM PDT by libertylover (If it's good and decent, you can be sure the Democrat Party leaders are against it.)
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To: BlueDragon; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie

Thanks for clarifying that the fisheman's group was not another leftist plant. And thanks for all the background. My disgust and frustration with government comes from reading so many stories like yours. Many posters have offered similar anecdotes that have been quite telling as to what we are all up against.

I believe that your level of frustration may have eclipsed SierraWasp's disgust for the Sierra Nevada Conservancy (and that's sayin' somethin'!)

Hang in there. You ain't alone!


22 posted on 08/16/2006 11:46:19 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
I hope they won't mind the million gazillion off-shore oil rigs I plan to put there when I become King. (Oil rigs are good for fishies anyway.)

The Chinese will get to do it first.

23 posted on 08/16/2006 12:06:35 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: calcowgirl
Thank you for your reply...

After posting, I went to have a look at California's Fish & Game website. I don't know if the areas listed were what is newly prohibited, or had already been "closed areas". Those listed (in my area, SLO County) do not appear that big, to me, and seem rather senseless, other than to have some result to show "something" is being done. I can think of more "prime" areas, a bit farther away from harbor entrances, that might have been better, but then again, as is said of fish, 'they all have tails' and move around, many of them, a LOT.

Tons of money spent to develop and discuss all this junk, and more additional multi-hundred thousands of dollars spent on new patrol boats, for what??? There are hardly any (commercial) fisherman left. Shoot, one just died the other day, who had become in recent years one of the "near shore" permit-only fisherman.

His death was not a fishing accident...I hear he fell off the pier, onto his boat. That may or may not be completly accurate...I haven't investigated for myself yet...

One less guy, but he was fairly active. Though he owned a boat that was about 35 ft., he did the so-called near-shore "live" market fishing, out of an aluminum skiff.

About six-nine months ago, his 35 ft.'er sunk at the dock (and was later refloated) because some idiot re-tied the dock lines in such a way that the boat was trapped by a rising tide. Then, the Fish & Game, and local Harbor patrol barred him from going onto or closely near the boat, with Fish and Game threatening him with arrest if he tried to get closer (I witnessed that part, personally), while the Harbor Department simultaneously attempted to get him to sign a paper stating that it was all "his" fault. It was a bad deal, all the way around. I do think the City has gotten stuck with the cost of raising the boat, so far.

Now he's dead, and his boat and skiff are surrounded by police tape, in impound in front of the Harbor office. He leaves behind a divorced wife, and a surviving daughter.

24 posted on 08/16/2006 1:02:05 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Carry_Okie
The Chinese will get to do it first.

I'm afraid you're right, and considering that we seem to be doing our best to raise a generation of lactose intolerant, fat, lazy PC bedwetters, they'll do it right soon.

:(

25 posted on 08/16/2006 5:11:44 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
I'm afraid you're right, and considering that we seem to be doing our best to raise a generation of lactose intolerant, fat, lazy PC bedwetters, they'll do it right soon.

That's not it.

They loan us money.

26 posted on 08/16/2006 11:40:36 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie
They loan us money.

By golly, you're right! Why fight for it when you can just foreclose.

27 posted on 08/17/2006 1:16:32 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Why fight for it when you can just foreclose.

Taking advantage of collateral for borrowed money has become a feeding frenzy. It's happening all over the country, the real source of the internationalization of America.

28 posted on 08/17/2006 7:23:07 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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