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Panic on 43rd Street (NYT/Dinosaur Media DeathWatch™)
Vanity Fair ^ | August 14, 2006 | Michael Wolf

Posted on 08/14/2006 10:18:06 AM PDT by abb

http://www.vanityfair.com/commentary/content/articles/060814roco02

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccrm; dbm; deadtreemedia; liberalmedia; liberals; mediabias; michaelwolff; msm; newspapers; newyorktimes; nyt; nytimes; pinch; trysellingthetruth; vanityfair; wolff
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1 posted on 08/14/2006 10:18:07 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

Broken link.


2 posted on 08/14/2006 10:18:46 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: abb
Raoul's First Law of Journalism
BIAS = LAYOFFS

3 posted on 08/14/2006 10:18:55 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

That link takes me to a "domains for sale" page.


4 posted on 08/14/2006 10:19:01 AM PDT by Xenalyte (God, please be with Flyer.)
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To: abb

http://www.vanityfair.com/commentary/content/articles/060814roco02


5 posted on 08/14/2006 10:19:15 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: knews_hound; Grampa Dave; martin_fierro; Liz; norwaypinesavage; Mo1; onyx; SmithL; petercooper; ...

Ping


6 posted on 08/14/2006 10:20:05 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Xenalyte
That link takes me to a "domains for sale" page.

Heh - wouldn't THAT be a kick? But it's supposed to be .COM, not .NET.

7 posted on 08/14/2006 10:23:04 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: abb

What the article actually says is that it is all Bush's fault.


8 posted on 08/14/2006 10:23:10 AM PDT by cosine
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To: abb
The calculation in the White House may well be that the Times is one of the few organizations that the weakened Bush people are strong enough to go after.

Or maybe you shoot at the generals, not the lieutenants.

9 posted on 08/14/2006 10:25:57 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Yo-Yo

"The Times's current predicament—its share price has fallen by 50 percent since 2002; almost 30 percent of its shareholders protested the company's slate of directors at the annual meeting this spring—gets closer and closer to that of the Knight-Ridder papers, forced into a sale..."



I would like to see its management fired at all levels. Editorial staff as well. That would be a good first step.


10 posted on 08/14/2006 10:27:20 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: abb

"Here's the identity crisis: when the president is attacking it with all the media available to him, can the Times count on this new reader, and the advertisers who are courting him, not to doubt it?"



I don't recall the President attacking the NYT. And the notion that the President commands any other media outlet or the advertisers is simply too ridiculous for words.

The NYT's troubles are its own creation.


11 posted on 08/14/2006 10:31:10 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: abb
Here's the identity crisis: when the president is attacking it with all the media available to him

LOL! What a freakin joke. How many times has Bush commented on the NYT through his spokespeople, once or twice?

12 posted on 08/14/2006 10:31:33 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: Brilliant

Lol, if he's going to get blamed, he really should take credit...


13 posted on 08/14/2006 10:32:26 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

"it was under Raines's watch that Blair wrote his fabricated stories—had the publisher's absolute support until the day he didn't and was fired..."



Who would have guessed at the time that the Jayson Blair fiasco would be one of the high marks of journalistic integrity and credibility at the NYT for the next 5 years?


14 posted on 08/14/2006 10:34:22 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: abb

This is like sitting in on a private conversation among utterly deluded leftists. Who tell each other all the right things.

Their hate for ordinary Americans outside of their little group is something they usually try to keep a secret.


15 posted on 08/14/2006 10:34:47 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: squarebarb

There was a Thomas Sowell book I read once, "The Vision of the Annointed." Says it all...


16 posted on 08/14/2006 10:38:08 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: cosine

"The activist shareholders are—not dissimilar to the Bush White House—waging a press campaign against the Times. The dissidents—only Morgan Stanley Asset Management, with 5 percent, has taken a public stand, but Bruce Sherman's Private Capital Management, which forced Knight-Ridder into a sale, is one of the Times's largest shareholders—are claiming that the B shareholders, presiding over scandal, are being reckless with the Times's brand and with their stewardship of a national treasure."



The shareholders need to hold their feet to the fire.


17 posted on 08/14/2006 10:40:49 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Xenalyte
That link takes me to a "domains for sale" page.

Before long you'll get that message when you type in newyorktimes.com, cbs.com, washingtonpost.com, etc.
18 posted on 08/14/2006 10:42:20 AM PDT by JayNorth
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To: abb

I found this article quite disappointing given Wolff's reputation as the ultimate insider. The facts are mostly well known and his commentary is a tissue of cliches.


19 posted on 08/14/2006 10:55:02 AM PDT by joylyn
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To: abb

Thanks for the great excerpts.


20 posted on 08/14/2006 10:57:18 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: JayNorth
Before long you'll get that message when you type in newyorktimes.com, cbs.com, washingtonpost.com, etc.

ROFLMAO!!!!

I just now finished reading the entire article. Astounding. Wolff writes about how The Times' brand may actually be losing value in a "how can that be?" tone. And he takes Pinch to task for wrecking the company. I get the sense Wolff hopes that someone, somewhere will wake up and "fix things."

Won't they?

21 posted on 08/14/2006 10:58:12 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: expatpat

Vanity fair doesn't allow excerpts or direct links. That's why the original link didn't work.


22 posted on 08/14/2006 10:59:37 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb
While the administration's anti-Times rants juice its base—made up of people who don't read the Times—the White House appears to be trying, with its drumbeat about treason and banking secrets, to stir up trouble with Times readers too (banking, unlike other hot-button conservative issues, is something that Times readers might get huffy about).

This is perhaps the most poorly constructed sentence I have ever read. Where did Wolff learn grammar? He gets paid to write. Presumably, someone gets paid to edit him. Unbelievable.

23 posted on 08/14/2006 11:08:00 AM PDT by Oschisms
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To: abb
"Vision of the Anointed" is one of the best books out there on the subject. Anyone interested in the media should read it.
24 posted on 08/14/2006 11:08:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: abb
LET'S REJOICE! :)))


25 posted on 08/14/2006 11:10:32 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: abb
I think what is especially good about this news is that this writer clearly doesn't have a clue because he also has quaffed the Koolaid.

For me, the money quote is:

The right-wing editorialists at The Wall Street Journal, which also printed the story about the banking secrets, ...
(Emphasis added, duh.)
The WSJ based it's decision to publish that story on the prior decision of the NYT. But Wolff leaves that aside in his effort to portray the WSJ as hypocritical, as, of course, are all conservatives. And, as so many of these articles do, it supposes that "we all KNOW" that Bush is a jerk, that we Red Staters who don't read the times really aren't smart enough to understand and agree with it, and so forth.

The "sub-text", as always, is that we are bigoted, stupid, knee-jerk, unimaginative, and totally lacking in the finer perceptions of nuance, irony, and that special sophistication which arises from just being better than everyone else and which leads finally to existential ennui and immobile passivity in the face of one's deserved an inevitable destruction.

Why can't these idiots understand that a newspaper which held up on the analysis and tried it's level best to tell the TRUTH would succeed wildly? I guess that's too simple for them. .

Vanity Fair, indeed! Vanitas vanitatum.

26 posted on 08/14/2006 11:50:35 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Reality is not optional.)
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To: Oschisms

Well, I DO read the Times and everything the administration says about them is true and more!!


27 posted on 08/14/2006 12:22:08 PM PDT by fschmieg
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To: abb
By attacking The New York Times for reporting secret anti-terrorism measures, the White House has evoked the government-defying glory days of the “paper of record.”

It's hard to read an article where the first sentence will make someone throw up.
28 posted on 08/14/2006 12:26:01 PM PDT by Vision (“I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me" Philippians 3:14)
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To: abb

This is one of the happiest articles about the NY Times I have ever read.


Happy for me that is.

WTF is the Slimes thinking investing in a white elephant office building when it's likely they wont need the space down the road?!


29 posted on 08/14/2006 1:03:15 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: abb; Landru; ForGod'sSake; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Copernicus; Mr. Mulliner; thesummerwind; ...

.....one that causes people inside the Times to gulp—is that difficult, less-than-humble, not-ready-for-prime-time descendants of 19th-century newspaper owners have been the cause of the decline and fall of a great many newspapers.....

Ouch!! Ithink I see blood on the floor.

You have done a yoeman's job posting the news defining the Death Watch, but this is without doubt the best of all. Vanity fait.....just imagine the pain and suffering anf oughtright embarassment this piece will cause.

It's wprthy of a ping to all the old guys


30 posted on 08/14/2006 1:30:27 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Keep watch for the Mahdi...... he's coming on 22 August!!)
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To: bert
Thanks Bert!

This old guy still posts keyword additions to CCRM

Best regards,

31 posted on 08/14/2006 3:13:59 PM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: bert

CATFIGHT!!

http://poynter.org/forum/view_post.asp?id=11724
From CHARLES KAISER: Michael Wolff's latest piece about the New York Times is an excellent example of the sensibility that informs all of his work: contemptuous envy. The article also highlights his nearly-pristine ignorance of the history of the media as well as an unquenchable appetite for non sequiturs.

A few examples: Wolff writes that because of its decision to become a national newspaper, "The New York Times is no longer principally a metropolitan paper...the Daily News and the New York Post, have far more readers in New York City" than the Times does. True enough; but Wolff doesn't mention that the Post and the News have outsold the Times within the city for at least thirty years, and probably quite a bit longer than that.

Wolff says the Times believes "some things should not be revealed because of national-security considerations, except when, in its own wisdom, it decides they should be." He calls this "its essential and contradictory defense." Actually, there is nothing contradictory about this at all. It is, quite simply, the way the Times exercises its news judgement, a concept which is clearly alien to this "critic."

Wolff claims that because Arthur Sulzberger Jr. exercises "editorial power," he has subverted "the traditional autonomy of the Times newsroom." Actually, there is nothing different about the way executive editor Bill Keller reports to Sulzberger from the way Abe Rosenthal and Max Frankel reported to his father. Most of the time, major news decisions are the sole provenance of the executive editor. Occasionally, when issues of extraordinary importance are involved, (the Pentagon Papers, or the Times recent N.S.A. story), the executive editor consults with the publisher. It has been forever thus.

Then there are non sequiturs like this one: "If this were the 50s, I asked, would he want the Times to buy a television network? "You bet I would," said Arthur." What is noteworthy about that? The Times was famously slow to get into television (and unlike the Daily News, never had its own New York City station) and it would surely be a more profitable company today if it had purchased a network in the 1950's. So what is Wolff trying to convey with this anecdote? I have no idea.

Full disclosure: I am a friend of Arthur Sulzberger Jr. I am aware that he has a few weaknesses as well as many strengths. But articles like Wolff's are both so vicious and so unfocussed that they aren't truly informative at all. They merely offer the author an opportunity to vent his limitless venom.


32 posted on 08/14/2006 4:29:21 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

..... I am a friend of Arthur Sulzberger Jr. .....

Ho ho..... what a great chain of events.

It is going to be very bitter.


33 posted on 08/14/2006 4:47:32 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Keep watch for the Mahdi...... he's coming on 22 August!!)
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To: bert

And you got to know that if the New York Times is the New Testament to these type people, Vanity Fair would be The Gospel According to St. John...


34 posted on 08/14/2006 4:52:10 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

Typical left...the world is soo wrong...they know just how to change it and fix it...if only we would pay attention!!!Sheesh!!! Basically substance abuse "thinking".....


35 posted on 08/14/2006 5:01:32 PM PDT by mo
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To: abb
I forced myself to read the entire article; its "echo chamber" undertext gives you an idea of how out-of-touch Wolff really is. Even more illuminating, the Times has no focus except what pleases Emporer Pinch these days, and writes for him and no one else these days.

The Internet has been coming on for ten years now, but these dinosaurs have ignored its democratic power and now they can't react.

Here's the money quote for me:

The Times, in newsprint form, with its daily 1.1 million circulation, and Sunday 1.7 million, makes between $1.5 and $1.7 billion a year (the company does not break out the exact figure). Times.com, with its 40 million unique online users a month, likely makes less than $200 million a year. Cruelly, an online user is worth much less—because his or her value can be so easily measured—than a traditional reader.

Translation: we've overcharged our print advertisers for years because we had the only available ad vehicle, and were at our mercy; now, they know what ads work and who clicks on them, so they refuse to pay more. We've throttled the goose that laid the golden egg.

36 posted on 08/14/2006 9:29:38 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

The Times does have an excellent website, however. I don't know why they can't go completely digital. New Yorkers got laptops and cellphones now to get stock quotes and the news.


37 posted on 08/14/2006 9:36:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: abb

That's a well-written article by Michael Wolf.

My main problem with the article is that Wolf, with no real evidence, paints a clever Bush conspiracy - - orchestrated of course by the ultimate bad guy, the man behind the curtain, Karl Rove - - to stealthily kick the Times while it's down.

Additionally, Wolf never points out that the accelerating leftward drift of the Times has led the paper to come off as downright indignant - - in-your-face indignant - - in its editorial positions. The angry, barely-controlled sputtering seen all too often these days on the editorial pages has impacted the quality of the writing. It's as if the paper has decided to dig in its heels and engage in a peeing contest with the conservative-dominated "new media" (talk radio, the internet, Fox News Channel). This childish attitude problem has very likely chased away a lot of readers, IMO.

The New York Times has become an embarrassment. I agree with Wolf that the Times' problems start at the top, with Pinch, and the paper's decline into irrelevancy and oblivion will only be hastened by his meddling.


38 posted on 08/14/2006 10:06:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: bert; abb

Heh; old guys eh? At the risk of commenting without having read the VF article(which I intend to do), could it safely be said this Wolff character is troubled by the wheels falling off the Times' wagon but by way of suggestion, he would like to see more grease added to the remaining hub??? IOW, another clueless "progressive"?


39 posted on 08/14/2006 10:10:24 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: bert

CATFIGHT, ROUND TWO!!

http://poynter.org/forum/view_post.asp?id=11725
View Forum Post
Topic: Letters Sent to Romenesko
Date/Time: 8/14/2006 9:09:19 PM
Title: Wolff: I'm as meek as a mouse next to Kaiser
Posted By: Jim Romenesko

From MICHAEL WOLFF: Re Charles Kaiser. I am, as it happens, sort of a friend of Charlie Kaiser's (we were at the Times together many years ago; my in-laws know his parents, etc). Everybody who is, or has been, his friend, knows that friendship with Charlie can be dangerous--you don't want to be on the receiving end of an email from Charlie, less a public email. (Somebody should really take away his account.) While I may be sometimes guilty of overstating my case, compared to Charlie I'm meek as a mouse. Among his extreme passions--both for and against--is the New York Times. He, as much as anybody, exemplifies that terrible Times syndrome that nothing exists, or will ever exist, so large in his professional life as the Times and the days he spent there (often unhappily, as I recall). Nobody can talk about the Times without him feeling he should be in on the conversation. If I'd praised the Times, Charlie would be vilifying it (and vilifying me for praising it). Anyway, the points I made were largely business points, which Charlie would not have much interest in: a) The Times' national strategy is at the expense of its core audience; b) Given the mass market economics of the Internet, the Times, if it is to succeed as an online proposition, cannot stay the Times; c) Charlie Kaiser's friend, Arthur Sulzberger, is a problematic corporate leader who has dramatically changed the nature of his family's stewardship. I look forward to seeing Charlie in the flesh--away from his email--where he is always mild, humorous, and temperate. [Permalink]


40 posted on 08/15/2006 4:46:35 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: All

pertinent...

Vanity Fair Publisher Out; Editor’s Ally Named
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/17/business/media/17mag.html?_r=1&ref=business&oref=slogin


41 posted on 08/17/2006 2:52:52 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
This fits that book.

The Sulzbergers...are supposed to be the British monarchy

42 posted on 08/17/2006 9:54:05 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: abb

That whole site is interesting. Just reading some of this bilge sharpens the fact that liberals dominate the media and are a bunch of whiney Bush haters. Amazing stuff..


43 posted on 08/18/2006 3:33:10 AM PDT by commonguymd
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