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To: neverdem
But children and adolescents in the study who were taking antidepressants were about 50 percent more likely than those not on the drugs to try to kill themselves. And they were about 15 times as likely as those not on the medications to complete the act, although the number of suicides was too small to draw definitive conclusions, the authors cautioned.

The problem here is that the depressed are more likely to commit suicide or other self destructive acts.

Those receiving anti-depressant medication are therefore deemed more depressed than others and therefore, more likely to commit suicide.

3 posted on 08/11/2006 9:10:13 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

At least 30 years ago this was known. It was thought then that the drugs created enough lift to help them perform the act. Another reason could be that irregular doses create withdrawal, a worse depression.


5 posted on 08/11/2006 9:15:38 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Confidential to Bush: protect the borders. The first word in "illegal immigrant" is...?)
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To: fso301

I second that. Another thing I have read is that those who just start taking anti-depressant medication are more likely to commit suicide. One hypothesis is that medication can also elevate energy levels. Should the medication do that before helping with the depression, a suicidal but tired person might suddenly find the energy to kill himself.


6 posted on 08/11/2006 9:18:24 PM PDT by psychoknk
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To: fso301
The problem here is that the depressed are more likely to commit suicide or other self destructive acts.

True, but that wasn't found with adults taking these SSRIs. From the 2nd link in comment# 1:

"In adults (aged 19-64 years), antidepressant drug treatment was not significantly associated with suicide attempts (odds ratio [OR], 1.10; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.86-1.39 [521 cases and 2394 controls]) or suicide deaths (OR, 0.90; 95% CI, 0.52-1.55 [86 cases and 396 controls])."

8 posted on 08/11/2006 9:40:16 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: fso301
the depressed are more likely to commit suicide

I think what will ultimately be discovered is that there's a group of depressed suicidal patients whose depression is so disabling that they're unable to carry out their self-destructive desire. As they begin to respond to the anti-depressants they recover their ability to act before they lose their desire to act.

Essentially, we're taking suicidal people who lack the energy to kill themselves and making them more energetic.... with predictable results. Sort of like giving taxi fare to the nearest span to a broke bridge-jumper.

15 posted on 08/12/2006 12:46:03 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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