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Mel, Poor Mel
The Chronicles Magazine ^ | Thursday, August 03, 2006 | Thomas Fleming

Posted on 08/05/2006 5:59:35 AM PDT by A. Pole

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To: veronica; A. Pole
Marx I can see

You should look again.

This article is anti Semitic trash- the Gibson incident has been a cornucopia for anti Semites to let lose.

Lets evaluate the "Jewish" trouble makers of the last bloody 150 years. Let's concentrate on Marx, ignoring that Marx's family had converted or was atheistic so his thoughts were anything but Jewish.

Marx wrote crackpot theories. So what. Read the Internet, tens of thousands, if not more, have crackpot theories.

Suppose I sat down and wrote my solution to all the World's problems. My solution is that all human beings should have their right arm cut off. And I published my idea on my web site.

Now suppose most people who found my obscure site immediately recognized someone nuts but A. Pole happening on my web site decided that my solution was brilliant. So A Pole buys an ax and goes out into the World to spread "my" idea and starts attacking people and chopping off their right arm.

Who's the trouble maker? If A Pole goes on trial, is it a defense that he couldn't help himself after he read my brilliant prose of arm removal and therefore it is all my fault?

Same for Fraud and the Jewish neocons and all the other Jewish "trouble makers". All they did was postulate ideas and opinions. some would point to another Jewish "trouble maker" with ideas was called Jesus (but Jews rarely get credit/blame for that "trouble maker")

The great irony about passive anti Semitism (as compared to active anti Semitism were Jews are physically harmed) is that it is so very insulting. Not to Jews. It is so insulting to Gentiles. It assumes them brainless and defenseless from Jewish influence .

The premise of passive anti Semitism is The Gentiles can just not help themselves. When a Jew thinks, Gentiles must obey. Marx writes his theories, Gentile armies are raised to enforce his ideas. Fraud writes, Gentiles diagnose. Neocons write in magazines and WASP George W Bush goes off to war.

Now if I just could have ever channeled this super Jewish ability of persuasion to cause leggy Gentile supermodels to perform to my direction, then you would have seen a real troublemaker.

41 posted on 08/05/2006 11:22:52 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Rice: She can put US pressure on Israel and she plays the piano.)
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To: hgro
It is what Mel says when sober that counts.

Actually Fleming is right. Who cares what any actor thinks!!!!!

42 posted on 08/05/2006 11:41:34 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Madeline Albright ZaPeezda, no doubt about it!)
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To: Westlander
I wasn't talking about the movies Mel Gibson acted in...there are a lot of those that are most memorable..unforgettable.

I was talking about Mel Gibson's genius in picking sources that he knows will make great movies then directing them. That's what Hollyweirdo hates about him. If he was only an actor...then he could/is easily black balled...helping for them to bring him in line. It's not possible since he's the movie maker with his own production company. Which has made him a very wealthy man!!! That's what they hate!!!!

43 posted on 08/05/2006 11:41:47 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Sabramerican
Now if I just could have ever channeled this super Jewish ability of persuasion to cause leggy Gentile supermodels to perform to my direction...

What, Jewish supermodels aren't good enough for you?

Supermodel Bar Refaeli, Leonardo DiCaprio's Israeli girlfriend...

44 posted on 08/05/2006 11:42:58 AM PDT by veronica (Clown Posse - where every thread is a stupid vanity thread...)
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To: veronica

Jewish "persuation" doesn't work on other Jews. We usually can't even get family to agree with us about anything.

It seems only Gentiles are so easily led by the nose by our powerful Jewish brain waves.

That's how Jews "start all the wars".


45 posted on 08/05/2006 11:49:02 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Rice: She can put US pressure on Israel and she plays the piano.)
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To: Sabramerican

Your post was awesome. I was just throwing down some humor.

We Jews not only produce "trouble makers" but some merry makers too, comedians and such. Or is Jerry Seinfeld a trouble maker?? :)


46 posted on 08/05/2006 11:54:26 AM PDT by veronica (Clown Posse - where every thread is a stupid vanity thread...)
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To: A. Pole
I wonder what Nick Noltey, Sean Penn, Robert Downey Jr., Richard Dreyfus, Peewee Herman, Roger Clinton and Mullah Omar said when they were arrested?

I don't remember any mention of drunken arrest ravings before Mel and that includes the Baldwins, the Carradines and the Waynans.

47 posted on 08/05/2006 11:55:05 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Just mythoughts
The French built the Suez Canal, not the communists. A man named Delesseps was the engineer.

Of course, Stalin had much to do with communism being established in North Korea, but the Chinese paid more in blood to assure it remained there.

And I agree with you that it's always safest to hold individuals responsible for their actions, for good or for bad, and not the group they're attached to.

48 posted on 08/05/2006 11:57:07 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

The Chinese were the victims of the rape of Nanking. I suspect they cared then and I believe they're still bitter about it. Read the Rape of Nanking by Iris Chang.


49 posted on 08/05/2006 12:01:08 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: Sabramerican
I agree with 99% of what you said, but I believe Marx's was more of an active revolutionary than is generally thought. He did more than write in the British Museum in London; he was in jail on several occasions. I don't think Irving Kristol or Norman Podhoretz ever spent a night in the joint. :-)
50 posted on 08/05/2006 12:04:33 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: Sabramerican
Jews also control the CIA, the NBA, the IRA and the PTA, when they're not busy swaying witless Gentiles. Bobby Zimmerman's voice caused the revolution of the 60's, and the Neo-Cons tricked the gullible Bush into invading Iraq. Basically, non-Jews are just dolts, or at least anti-Semites profoundly believe that.
51 posted on 08/05/2006 12:08:29 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: A. Pole
"If people get convinced that the the key driving force in human beings is sexual in character and if the civilization is based on suppression or sublimation of this force than the result is perfectly predicable."

Indeed it is. To counter this, another Jewish neurologist by the name of Viktor Frankl (author of the classic Man's Search for Meaning) maintained that man's main driving force is not sex, nor power, but "the will to meaning." ....and he was right.

52 posted on 08/05/2006 12:08:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: veronica

Marx never considered himself a Jew and was baptized a Christian even though he was descended from a line of Rabbis.
Freud was a brilliant man no matter what some people say about the virtues and drawbacks of psychiatry.
From my experiences,people of Jewish descent have a long history of intellectual and scientific achievements.I think when you boil it all down to its simplest elements,the real cause of anti-Semitism is JEALOUSY!


53 posted on 08/05/2006 12:15:16 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: A. Pole

You don't think libido is one of the key driving forces of the human experience?
it sure was MY key driving force from about 15 to 30!


54 posted on 08/05/2006 12:17:02 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: veronica

Adam Sandler is the Jewish trouble maker. Everyone knows that.


55 posted on 08/05/2006 12:42:50 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: elhombrelibre

And Mel Brooks has made a career out of subverting the Dominant Paradigm.


56 posted on 08/05/2006 12:44:50 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: A. Pole
Flem writes like Ann Coulter on some drug or hormone treatment. Is there some rule that you have to post pictures of him when you post his articles?

I find the whole Mel Gibson saga depressing, because it reminds me of the grotesque stupidity of American Catholic conservatives, who insist on putting their faith in actors like Ronald Reagan and Mel Gibson. Have they ever read an interview with Gibson? He cannot frame a three-word sentence that does not sound like it comes from the mouth of Malibu Barbie.

That's largely what chat about recent movies is: superficial and trivial. So when you read Gibson talking about his movies that's pretty much what you get. It's a lot better than aiming at something deeper and more thoughtful and ending up with a column like Fleming's.

57 posted on 08/05/2006 12:47:34 PM PDT by x
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To: Riverman94610
Well, there's Milton Berle too, and don't forget Jackie Mason, or Ben and Jerry Stiller. Bob Hope was a crypto Jew, or was he a crypto Brit. This stuff gets way confusing.
58 posted on 08/05/2006 12:56:11 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: A. Pole

Cindy Sheehan has been saying the same kind of things as Mel for over a year and nobody pays any attention.


59 posted on 08/05/2006 12:59:20 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO WANT TO TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY !)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Have you read Godless yet?
60 posted on 08/05/2006 1:05:44 PM PDT by magslinger (Without Freedom, Utopia isn't paradise after all. It's just hell in a fancy prom dress. Steven James)
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