Posted on 08/01/2006 10:39:51 PM PDT by summer
A federal prosecutor may inspect the telephone records of two New York Times reporters in an effort to identify their confidential sources, a federal appeals court in New York ruled yesterday.
The 2-to-1 decision, from a court historically sympathetic to claims that journalists should be entitled to protect their sources, reversed a lower court and dealt a further setback to news organizations, which have lately been on a losing streak in the federal courts.
...The case arose from a Chicago grand jury’s investigation into who told the two [NYT] reporters, Judith Miller and Philip Shenon, about actions the government was planning to take against two Islamic charities, Holy Land Foundation in Texas and Global Relief Foundation in Illinois. Though the government contended that calls from the reporters tipped off the charities to impending raids and asset seizures, the investigation appears to be focused on identifying the reporters’ sources. No testimony has been sought from the reporters, and there has been no indication that their actions are a subject of the investigation.
...Patrick J. Fitzgerald was the prosecutor ...
... the court rejected The Times’s central argument, saying that neither the United States Supreme Court’s 1972 decision in Branzburg v. Hayes, which considered the scope of the protections offered by the First Amendment, nor later developments in other areas of the law provided the paper with the ability to protect the phone records at issue in the case.
The majority ruled that the government could overcome any privilege that even a broad reading of the Branzburg decision allowed. It also declined to adopt a so-called common-law evidentiary privilege based on the shield laws almost all states have adopted, saying the government could similarly defeat any plausible version of such a privilege...
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
FYI.
I'm thinking the NYT must really hate this administration by now! LOL...
Maybe we are seeing a small chink in the reporters armor.
...especially when GW wins in court.That must drive the NYT absolutely bonkers.
A lot of court decisions have come out these past few years. I am guessing journalism schools may need to again offer updated courses, just to keep up!
..yeah.....we've now got their little black book....lol
Seething rage from the Id doesn't even begin to describe it.
Yeah it's an interesting article. My question to the OWNERS, AND EDITOR'S of the N.Y. Slimes is have you ever heard the term 'PUCKER FACTOR"?
EVEN MORE interesting with FairOpinions thread!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676199/posts
Leakers Of Classified Information Will Topple Our Dam Of Security (by Sen. Bond -R)
>>>We must send a message that leaks will not be tolerated and give prosecutors a modern, clear and appropriate tool to go after those who violate the law, violate their oath and make America less safe.
— Bond, R-Mo., is a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee.<<<<
HMMMM!
I hope something comes of this. I have had it with these reporters getting away with murder and then claiming they are the bright beacons on journalistic morality. There has to be a line drawn.
Oh, and how I would have loved to be a fly on the wall at the NYT when that ruling came down.....
you bet...maybe we can bring down a drug and prostitution ring too while we are at it....those seedy little journal-whores
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George Freeman, vice president and assistant general counsel of The New York Times Company, disputed the majority’s characterization. Ms. Miller and Mr. Shenon, he said, “were conducting their journalistic duties by getting reaction to an ongoing story.”
Mr. Freeman added: “The move against the charities was not a surprise. No one has ever alleged that any federal agent was hindered or hurt or didn’t succeed.”
As I recall, the issue was not the hindering of federal agents, but the fact that the advance warning may have enabled the Islamic charities to destroy or hide potential evidence of wrongdoing. The move "wasn't a surprise" because the NYT warned them.
The Times conveniently ignores the central point, IMO. Fitz wants to know who in the government tipped Miller off to the raid.
Unless and until the federal government recognizes that the New York Times is essentially a fifth columnist extension of al Qaeda, Hezbollah, and works to undermine the U.S. war effort at every turn, we will continue to see leaks show up in print, provided by traitors within the government itself.
Sulzberger and the lot of them need to be sent on an extended trip to Gitmo for the duration of the war.
I wonder how long it is going to take before judges ALL figure out that we're in a war, and that the executive branch must have all its traditional tools to prosecute this war. At least some judges are getting it . Long way to go, though.
So now Patrick J. Fitzgerald is the good guy?
Say it ain't so!
Maureen Dowd hates Judith Miller. Miller was much the superior reporter and her books have won widespread academic acclaim.
Look at this post and note FairOpinions with it in post 10 for an interesting picture! :)
Another thread worth reading again:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1559773/posts
Rosenbergs’ Granddaughter Sues NSA Over Spying
>>>...the "plaintiff" in the trumped-up New York lawsuit is none other than the granddaughter of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg — Rachel Meeropol.
The Rosenbergs were executed in 1953 for helping to pass US atom bomb secrets to the Soviet Union. Julius’s KGB nom de guerre was "Liberal."
Rachel is a Communist in her own right. She is a Vice President of the New York City chapter of the communist National Lawyers Guild.<<<
(snip)
>>>>The Detroit lawsuit said the plaintiffs, who frequently communicate by telephone and e-mail with people in the Middle East and Asia, have a "well-founded belief" that their communications are being intercepted by the government.<<<<<
I read somewhere that Souter at oral arguments questioned the government attorney about whether we are "at war". He said President's war powers only apply when Congress has declared war. What a nebbish. Ivory tower, head in sand (or where sun doesn't shine).
The Times conveniently ignores the central point, IMO. Fitz wants to know who in the government tipped Miller off to the raid.
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All of media are ignoring this central point. The Bush Administration really does want to find and stop government employees from sabotaging our national security.
They - the media - turned their world upside down when they deliberately chose to support the side of Plame/Wilson against the Administration. They heard President Bush say at the beginning of the Fitzpatrick appointment "that if anyone in the admin had broken the law, he should be fired." The media said to themselves, yeah, right, knowing that would never happen in a Dem admin, so they absolutely did not believe President Bush for a minute.
from that article:
In the past few days I have asked intelligence professionals whether they believe that introducing legislation on leaks would be a good idea.
One of our top intelligence experts said he would be extremely grateful if that were to happen.
He said such action would help restore his profession's reputation, which has been tarnished over the past few years.
Legislation I am introducing seeks to aid the executive branch in prosecuting individuals engaged in these damaging leaks.
The bill seeks to unify current law and ease the government's burden in prosecuting and punishing leakers by eliminating the need to prove that damage to national security results from a disclosure.
Simply put, if someone "knowingly and willfully" discloses classified material to an individual not authorized to receive it, that person will face federal prosecution.
So it is saying they are looking to lighten the consequences?
The govt employees that handle classified information SIGN an agreement NOT to leak or they will be prosecuted......what part of that don't they understand??
The Rosenberg's granddaughter....could she be a spy/traitor also?? Or just a lefty stooge?
>>>could she be a spy/traitor also?? Or just a lefty stooge?
I'm seriously not being a wise guy (although I really am by nature), is there a difference?
lol....guess not!!
What's unknown (or forgotten) to most Freepers is that Patrick J. Fitzgerald has a day job - in Chicago (Northern Dist of IL actually). And he's doing one hell of a great job too.
He's brought down the totally corrupt maggot and ex-Gov, Geo Ryan (RINO) and his criminal cronies, and now is going after Chicago City Hall and the Daley Machine (convictions coming monthly).
Fitz is the best thing to happen to the Chicago area since the Bears won the Super Bowl.
From that Rosenberg link, lawsuit was jointly filed by:
>>>The Detroit suit, which also names the NSA, was filed by the ACLU, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Greenpeace and several individuals.<<<
CAIR and Greenpeace, together.
If you ever sign up for any activism newsletter, campaign forums, there are links you will get to get involved with group efforts. Islamic is always included with any lefty list.
That is just a minor example. I have harder connects. But that is for other threads.
From my reading of Senator Bond's article, he is seeking to strengthen the laws that right now make it difficult to prosecute leakers.
I had the same question as you, - what part of that signed agreement is not already clearly understood. Perhaps the slap on the wrist that Sandy Berger got is evidence that the current laws need strengthening.
No kidding. Sandy Burglar should be in PRISON.
The media has become extremely arrogant. Think they can make things simply not-happen by ignoring it, or twistng it beyond distortion. Americans are becoming restless at this tyrrany.
Good point. The truth is bypassing the trad media more and more effectively. They are not only ignoring or distorting the "news" but they are convincing themselves that they are reporting "truth."
I call that self-hypnosis. Not sustainable.
I wonder if the leaks are occurring from the FOIA that is signed during public/private partnerships created with foundation funding?
Re your post #26 - Good question.
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