Condi Rice appears on BOR

Fox News Channel ^ | 8/1/06 | rodguy911

[rodguy911]

Sec. of State Condi Rice just appeared on the Bill "O' Reilly Factor" show.

[rodguy911]

Condi was awesome BOR asked her all the usual stuff but she was up to the task as usual.He tried the "the whole world is against us" on the Lebanon thing "what oh what will we do" but she handled it extremely well. Condi Rice is a class act and as W says she is "44"

[Danae]

Did W say she was "44"?

I know she was being aimed for the Calif. Gov role, but Arnie got in the way, and took her Domestic Exp..


I would Vote for her!

[ElkGroveDan]

Condi Rice is a class act

She's pro-abortion. Nothing classy about that.

[NorCalRepub]

....she did a great job....savvy, intelligent and firm grasp of the issues and smacked BOR down when he said everyone was against us.....She smoothly told him that there are more with us then he thinks....because sometimes....."he doesn't think".....

[NorCalRepub]

....you are right EGD...but I think Laura Bush is pro choice too....haven't found anyone yet I agree with 100%..

[BunnySlippers]

I would vote for her too.

[rodguy911]

Yeah W has been going around and calling her 44, makes you wonder! Although I don't agree with everything she stands for I think she would make an excellent VP and one day who knows.
My guess is W is probably trying her to change her "absolutely no" stance she has now on running.

[Stultis]

Oh, Lord. I don't think I could stand to watch the rebroadcast. Watching someone that dim, oblivious and self absorbed interviewing someone that sharp, aware and engaged has to be just painful.

[nutmeg]

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[rodguy911]

I you plan on being a one issue voter for our side, rots a ruck.

[pookie18]

& Rudy will be on tom'w.

[rodguy911]

I'm glad BOR didn't try and hammer her too hard I would hated to have destroyed a perfectly good t.v.I almost died when he took a commercial break in the middle of her interview what a true putz.

[dead]

Did O'Reilly try to sell her some of his crap?

[rodguy911]

She is a classy lady and IMHO would do what is right for the country first, and what is politically expedient last.

[rodguy911]

Are you sure you didn't see it, because you just nailed it IMHO!

[areafiftyone]

Woo Hooo! I'm definitely going to watch it tomorrow. Cute picture!

[rodguy911]

I know that a Rudy/Condi ticket is not what we are looking for here but at the same time neither is a McCain or Hillary in the White House either. It is frustrating but its' called politics.

[areafiftyone]

Did W really say that? If she ran I would vote for her!

[rodguy911]

Yeah he did but he is such a bush leaguer in front of her it was just a matter of which side she spanked him on. Funny thing is, he admitted it to her that he knew he was a dud.

[areafiftyone]

That would be a powerhouse ticket!

[NorCalRepub]

...I think BOR has a good heart...he has just become so successful that he believes his opinions are facts....I love it when he tells authoritative attorneys' that they are wrong....like BOR knows the law better then they... I have to chuckle to myself when he lectures experts about the fallacy of their opinion......lol

[rodguy911]

I am totally biased when it come to Condi since she has always been a huge favorite of mine. But when you go down the list of potential candidates and you consider intelligence, like ability, charisma, worldliness, whom you want running the show when the country is at war, and a couple of hundred other things like that, she scores in the 99th percentile in my book every time.

[RedStateRocker]

Same here.

I would be very interested to see the polling data and demographic breakdown on a Condi vs Hillary '08.
-it would take the gender issue completely out of play
-it would split the African American vote

I do think Ms. Rice could use some work on speaking, she sounds like the professor she is, without passion, emotion or fire but she has such a logical mind and gets to the point well.

Oh, I think she's a lot easier on the eyes than any other POTUS we could ever have.

[rodguy911]

that would be a powerhouse ticket

my ultimate ticket would be stormin' Norman and Tom Tancraedo, but since that's not gonna happen and I don't want hillary, Condi and Rudy look darn good.

[uglybiker]

My guess is W is probably trying her to change her "absolutely no" stance she has now on running.

Unless I've missed one, all her statements I've come across on the matter have gone along the lines of: "I have no intention of seeking the nomination..."

Which could be diplo-speak for 'I might accept if it were offered to me'. And the way things are going, the office could be hers for the asking. No one else Republican Party garners as much attention as she does., and the Dems sure as H*LL don't have anybody.

Who are they going to run if they have to go against her? The Tree? Hildebeast? Cynthia "Frightwig" McKinney?

[rodguy911]

BOR is O.K. o t.v. but he needs to give up the radio gig. He seems to be jealous of Rush, but Rush is the radio guy of "all time" he needs to learn that.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Why is it "BOR", and not "ORF"?

[rodguy911]

...she sounds like the professor she is, without passion,emotion or fire...

[gentlestrength]

The quotes I've seen, she is NOT pro-abortion, but you can see why she would get misunderstood if taken out of context:

Washington Times, March 11, 2005

"I'm very comfortable with the president's view that we have to respect and need to have a culture that respects life. This should be an issue pretty infrequently because we ought to have a culture that says that, ?Who wants to have an abortion? Who wants to see a daughter or a friend or, you know, a sibling go through something like that?? And so I believe the president has been in exactly the right place about this, which is, we have to respect the culture of life and we have to try and bring people to have respect for it and make this as rare a circumstance as possible.?

"...[I am ]kind of Libertarian on this issue, and meaning by that that I have been concerned about a government role in this issue. I'm a strong proponent of parental choice, of parental notification. I'm a strong proponent of a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite people and I think that that's where we should be."

"What I do think is that we should not have the federal government in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other. So, for instance, I've tended to agree with those who do not favor federal funding for abortion, because I believe that those who hold a strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it."
"I've called myself at times mildly pro-choice.....That's what that means. I think that there are a lot of things that we can unite around, and that's where I would tend to be." (from http://www.4condi.com/issuequotation.htm>

(I think one could read these quotes contrary to her meaning, but more importantly, I think they CAN be understood in a PROlife way.)

[rodguy911]

I have thought about it a lot and here is how it shakes out to me. Some time early next year if she has a serious sit down with W and Laura and they both tell her, in so many words, "Condi your country needs you", she will have a hard time saying no. Absent that, I'm not sure she will make the run.

[rodguy911]

I guess it could be either one but I have always seen "BOR" references to the factor on here for some time now.

[vikzilla]

Condi Rice is a class act She's pro-abortion. Nothing classy about that

You're exactly right, when I don't agree with politicians 100%, there is no way I would vote for them.

Let Ted Kennedy or Hillary have the White House, I will stick with whatever principles that make me feel superior, no matter what.

[rodguy911]

I am kind of Libertarian on this issue and meaning by that I have been concerned about a govt. role in this issue.

It's near impossible to argue with logic like this, the last thing I would want personally is a govt. official or edict telling or enforcing my wife or daughter when they can and can not have an abortion. It's really not the business of govt.

[gentlestrength]

A Bio of Condoleezza Rice from a radio show on music she did a few years ago"

Dr. Condoleezza Rice became the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, commonly referred to as the National Security Advisor, on January 22, 2001 and has been nominated to become Secretary of State.

In June 1999, she completed a six year tenure as Stanford University's Provost, during which she was the institution's chief budget and academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion annual budget and the academic program involving 1,400 faculty members and 14,000 students.

As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford faculty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors -- the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distinguished Teaching.

At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions.

From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military.

She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula . In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco.

Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995, the National Defense University in 2002, the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of Louisville and Michigan State University in 2004. She resides in Washington, D.C.

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/mam/episodes/2005/01/02

[fso301]

She's pro-abortion. Nothing classy about that.

Ever wonder why Billy Graham never took a public position on abortion?

[NonLinear]

Pookie! I almost didn't recognize you outside of the 'toons! Mercy started barking, though, and kept me from passing by without saying hi!

[gentlestrength]

Her videos on O'Reilly Part 1 and 2 are at foxnews.com under Video

[rodguy911]

Thanks for that much appreciated. She's a truly great American IMHO and I think would be slam dunk on the ticket in 08.

[gentlestrength]

And like a good professor she doesn't accept slang...it's status quo ante instead of just status quo! Ha!

But boy, she looks a bit tired. Extra prayers.

[Salvation]

I thought Condi shone like a star.

[rodguy911]

You could almost tell that an appearance on the O'Reilly show would probably not merit any prep time for her like an MTP grilling would.

[Salvation]

I didn't know that. Guess we have to pray for her.

[rodguy911]

No question, O' Reilly almost pushed the envelope a few times a bit hard but he kind of held back knowing he was facing a far superior intellect. My guess is he didn't want to go home and half to explain freshly made spike heel marks on his forehead again.

[gentlestrength]

I agree, if I'm reading her correctly, it seems very logical. The context MUST be that no one likes abortion, which is code for no one likes killing live human beings in the womb. We also don't like paying for it with tax dollars.

But remember that the government is NOT saying your wife or daughter MUST have an abortion. But by even "allowing" the murder of a child in your wife's or daughter's womb,the government is not protecting its helpless citizens as it should.

[gentlestrength]

She was nodding her head to his "Now you've known me a long time" when he continued saying "and I can be pretty dense" and ust for a second jher head still kept nodding...!

[rodguy911]

Its' a tough topic and one I usually stay away form since I am a male and won't likely be having any kids any time soon.But I get your point.

[rodguy911]

Yeah it was obvious who was in charge and who was not.

[gentlestrength]

B: Richard Armitage says you should have direct talks with Syria.
C: "Rich Armitage was one of the last to talk to the Syrians, and they didn't react very well or react at all, and it was a very strong message...the problem isn't that people don't talk to the Syrians but that the Syrians don't act."

[rodguy911]

Everyone but BOR knows that Armitage is a village idiot! Condi could have really spiked him on that one but she let him off with a gentle warning. She truly is a class act, why beat up the mentally impaired.

[samantha]

It is not ORF because that is too close to what he really is an OAF.