Posted on 07/28/2006 2:42:57 PM PDT by John Jorsett
The lynching of Israel continues, this time with United Nations boss Kofi Annan accusing it of the “apparently deliberate targetting” of a UN observation post, killing four observers.
The usual suspects are now running with this line, with The Age front page screaming: “UN told: please explain.’’
The venom against Israel - as splashed about by former Deputy Prime Minsiter Tim Fischer on ABC 774 this morning - is extraordinary. Do these people seriously think Israel aims to kill UN staff, and that this was not simply - as Israel insists - a tragic mistake?
What makes Annan’s allegation so unforgiveable is that his UN Interim Force in Lebanon has been warning for days about what almost certainly caused this tragedy. Hezbollah fighters, who have already been firing behind screens of women and children, have also been shooting from behind and next to the UN positions, presumably hoping Israel will not dare shoot back and risk exactly this kind of propaganda disaster.
Read the UNIFIL press releases for yourself to learn that Hezbollah has not just shot at and seriously wounded UNIFIL observers - without any protest from Kofi Annan or The Age. You’ll also learn that UNIFIL has repeatedly reported Israeli shelling and bombing near UNIFIL outposts because Hezbollah fighters were shooting from right beside them .
Says the UNIFIL press release of 20 July:
Hezbollah firing was also reported from the immediate vicinity of the UN positions in Naquora and Maroun Al Ras areas at the time of the incidents (of Israeli return fire).
Can the jeering critics of Israel stop catcalling for a minute and explain how Israel is to defend itself against an enemy that shoots from among women and children, and from behind UN soldiers? Can they explain why they are such apologists for terrorists? Can Annan explain why he did not call on Hezbollah to stop risking the lives of his staff, or pull them out when they were being used to screen terrorist fighters?
UPDATE 1: More evidence. Retired Canadian Major General Lewis Mackenzie says he recently received emails from the Canadian peacekeeper killed at the UN post who’d told him that Hezbollah was using his post as cover.
We received emails from him a few days ago, and he was describing the fact that he was taking fire within, in one case, three meters of his position for tactical necessity, not being targeted. Now that’s veiled speech in the military. What he was telling us was Hezbollah soldiers were all over his position and the IDF were targeting them. And that’s a favorite trick by people who don’t have representation in the UN. They use the UN as shields knowing that they can’t be punished for it.
(Thanks to Little Green Footballs)
UPDATE 2: Canada’s prime minister Steven Harper also makes sense:
Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper said an Israeli attack on a UN outpost that killed four, including a Canadian, was a “terrible tragedy” but not likely deliberate.
At the same time, he questioned why the UN had manned the outpost in Lebanon near the Israeli border as bombs exploded all around.
“We want to find out why this United Nations post was attacked and also why it remained manned during what is now, more or less, a war during obvious danger to these individuals,” he told reporters.
UPDATE 3: Hezbollah is listed here and in the US and Canada as a terrorist group. Yet The Age today gave one of its spokesmen, Ali Fayyad, a senior member of Hezbollah’s executive committee, a quarter of a page to put his case against Israel. Am I alone in finding this shameful? I guess the paper at least “balanced” it by running alongside it a piece by an Israeli minister. Can someone older than I tell me if it was the habit of The Age in World War 2 to run pieces by Mr Hitler alongside ones by some Jewish spokesman not yet dead for the sake of a “balanced” argument? We can’t be far from the day that The Age hires Mr Osama bin Laden as a columnist. When Michael Leunig retires, perhaps?
Some posts just need bombin'.
The UN is basically allied with terrorist Hezbollah and other Islamo-fascist groups. The terrorists do the mass killings while UN imbeciles provide diplomatic "cover" and propaganda for it all.
The U.N. is not just disgusting but it is extremely unintelligent. If you do not support Israel then you support Hezbollah. If you support neither side then you support Hezbollah. The U.N. people are such a bunch of appeasers. Europe doesn't even matter anymore. If they dosend in an international force it better be NATO and not those pansies in light blue helmets.
The UN has been claiming that over the last 28 years over 200 members of UNIFIL have been killed. Is the UN claiming that Israel whacked them all? Who died? How and when did they die? Who was responsible? Paging the UN....
Hezbollah use apartment complexes, and use women an children as human shields, so it stands to reason that they would have no qualms about using the U.N.
I think it's important that we distinguish between the hanky-wringers inhabiting the tall building at Turtle Bay and the poor slobs who are told to don a blue helmet and go "observe." I wouldn't get too exercised about the former getting themselves blown up, but the latter certainly don't deserve it.
UNIFIL officials were seen sipping tea with Hizbollah guerrillas before Israel began defending herself. UN offices were mixed in with Hizbollah, so that H would have human shields.
The UN was expecting loyalty. Or something
I was speaking only figuratively. Of course I know the difference between the bureaucrats who sit inside air conditioned office buildings(who are the ones that need "bombin'" and the poor folks out in the field.
Somewhere on Free Republic is a post that includes an image of UN observation post, possibly the one that was bombed, with a yellow islamic flag flying next to it.I believe it was posted shortly after the IDF began their incursion.Can someone help find it?
Once again, Kofi demonstrates the art of stating a false premise and then building on it with multiple lies.
I'll tell you what I believe is much more likely:
1..Kofi was advised by the Isrealis that Hezzies were operating in the area of the UN observers.
2..Kofi was told to get his UN observers out of the area as it would be targeted.
3..Kofi withheld that info and allowed the UN observers to be killed
4..Kofi WANTED the UN observers to be killed so he could claim an incident against Isreal.
That makes a heluva lot more sense to me than any lie that Kofi spews.
Anyone know the disposition of the remains of the four UNIFIL members?
Hezbollah has been using the UN troops as human shields -- a typical tactic. They do this and hide behind babies because they know that they will not be condemned for putting them in danger. Instead their enemy gets the blame when non-combatants die due to their cynical cowardice.
Further, Israel has objected to similar peacekeepers being emplaced in the West Bank or Gaza. They know that a line of blue helmets will serve as a one-way membrane through which terrorists will pass but Israeli troops will not.
The loss of civilian lives is tragic, but HAMAS and Hezbollah have metastasized within their respective civilian populations, many of whom supported their cause and methods.
Right.....Now send this to FOX right now.
I really don't understand why these UN "peacekeepers" stayed at their post. They knew Hezbollah had rocket launchers in their back yard (and how is it called "peacekeeping" when you just watch one side prepare to annihilate the other?) and they knew Israel said they were going to wipe out the rocket launchers, and indeed had been doing so for days.
Did they really think that Israel was going to declare defeat without even a battle?
I am rather weary of anything Isreal says. For more information, take a look at the USS Liberty attack on Wikipedia. That sure as heck seemed deliberate.
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Rather weary?
That was inb 1967.
Spock had sex more often then that didn't he?
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Sounds like a good theory. No matter what the situation they were up to no good.
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Happened during the Six Day War in 1967, at that.
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A very reasonable theory.
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The USS Liberty was not sunk with all hands lost. The survivors, in other wars and eras, would today be counting their blessings. Instead, like many in those parts of Maryland, too many count grudges.
Why was the UN post bombed?
A Christian refugee from Lebanon explained that the Hezbollah would deliberately set up their rockets between houses......civilian houses, places where living breathing people lived.
When they fire their rockets, they are immediately picked up by radar.
Modern counter-battery fire relies on counter-battery radars, which calculate the source of incoming artillery shells very accurately and quickly -- so quickly, in fact, that return fire can sometimes begin before the first enemy shell has landed.
I have been hearing about this photo, thanks Gunny for posting it. Interesting which flag appears to be flying higher.
I have a few questions about Kofi and the U.N.
1. Is Kofi a closet terrorist? Maybe a sympathizer or facillitator? It seems to me he is pulling for the fricken terrorists. COME OUT OF THE CLOSET KOFI!!!
2. Hasn't he already been proven dirty? Remember the oil for food scandal? Why is he still allowed to represent the U.N.?
3. Wasn't it a UN resolution which mandated the disarmament of Hizballah so Israel would leave Lebanon?
4. If the UN refuses to enforce their resolutions then what would compel countries to comply with said resolutions? For example the North Korea resolution that was recently passed as well as the greatly anticipated Iran resolution? Jeeze I just can't wait to hear the strong language in that one (sarcasm).
I just don't get it. Why waste time on this crap (UN meetings) when we all know no one gives a damn what they say?
He is at the very least a facilitator of terrorism and a sympathizer of terrorist organizations. He will do anything he thinks he can get away with, up to and including the murdering of his own UN Troops.
"2. Hasn't he already been proven dirty? Remember the oil for food scandal? Why is he still allowed to represent the U.N.?"
He and his family are as dirty as they come. That he has been allowed to remain Secretary-General is just more proof how corrupt and feckless that organization is.
"3. Wasn't it a UN resolution which mandated the disarmament of Hizballah so Israel would leave Lebanon?"
If we're speaking of 1982, I don't think so. There was an agreement sponsored by the US, France and Italy for the cessation of hostilities but I don't think it was ever ratified. Israel pulled back on it's own to a buffer security zone.
This from Wikipedia on a later action (2004).."United Nations Security Council Resolution 1559 was adopted by the United Nations Security Council on September 2, 2004, echoing many elements of the Taif Agreement."
"4. If the UN refuses to enforce their resolutions then what would compel countries to comply with said resolutions? For example the North Korea resolution that was recently passed as well as the greatly anticipated Iran resolution? Jeeze I just can't wait to hear the strong language in that one (sarcasm)."
To my knowledge, the UN doesn't have the power to ENFORCE anything, at least not militarily....and that's probably a good thing. Would you really want an organization that's so corrupt and so full of 3rd world tin horn dictators actually capable of military action?
Militarily speaking they are basically a peace keeping/observation force.
Spread the word.
You've forgotten 9/11, Bali, London, Madrid, etc. The Western world is under assault by Islamic terrorists. We can fight them in the middle East, or we can fight them here. They have already said they want to kill all infidels - that means all Christians and Jews. They target civilians, because those are easier to kill than armed military.
And if we were so desperate for oil, we would drill offshore or in ANWAR. There's plenty of oil there.
And forget the UN. That is a corrupt organization without either the will or the means to settle any conflict. Passing toothless resolutions is the limit of their power.
War is messy, and mistakes happen. But it's a better alternative than just waiting to be killed.
Also, if you'll excuse my skepticism, I've been on FR for over eight years, and have seen maybe three references to the USS Liberty during that time, up until the last couple of weeks, when I've seen several posts about it. Without getting into the politics, Israel was in a three front war, and the Liberty was fifteen miles off their coast, and had a profile similar to Egyptian warships. US command had sent orders for the Liberty to increase it's distance from the coast, but these were never received by the ship.
What I find curious is that during the last couple of weeks I've seen several posts about the Liberty, usually from people with less than a month on the board. I am starting to sniff a little coordinated anti-Israel posting. You may or may not be one of those people, but ever since the "Moby" declarations of the 2004 elections, FR seems to get waves of coordinated seminar posters.
Oh, and it's not spelled Isreal. It's Israel.
RedNail may be new, but based on his/her other posts prior to the Liberty one, he/she didn't sign up just to bash Israel. Usually people who sign up with an agenda in mind launch right into it, they don't have the patience to wait a week. (Or am *I* suddenly implementing my master plan of deception, having waited 5 long years? Mwaahahaha.)
Oh yeah. Like I haven't been keeping an eye on you, anyway.
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Still confused. If they can't enforce anything then why the hell do we have them and even better yet, how can they been peace keepers if they have no power?
To my knowledge, the UN doesn't have the power to ENFORCE anything, at least not militarily....and that's probably a good thing. Would you really want an organization that's so corrupt and so full of 3rd world tin horn dictators actually capable of military action?
You did make a good point though, I definitely would not want them taking any military action, they are not trustworthy.
Militarily speaking they are basically a peace keeping/observation force.
Right now they are just observing themselves get their butts kicked.
It's what we do..
it's all we do..
and we won't stop...
EVER!
I think you've answered your own question.
Roger that, time to stop paying my taxes:-)
Thanks for posting this.
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50
"....Just last week, Maj. Hess-von Kruedener wrote an e-mail about his experiences after nine months in the area, words Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie said are an obvious allusion to Hezbollah tactics.
"What I can tell you is this," he wrote in an e-mail to CTV dated July 18. "We have on a daily basis had numerous occasions where our position has come under direct or indirect fire from both (Israeli) artillery and aerial bombing.
"The closest artillery has landed within 2 meters (sic) of our position and the closest 1000 lb aerial bomb has landed 100 meters (sic) from our patrol base. This has not been deliberate targeting, but rather due to tactical necessity."
Those words, particularly the last sentence, are not-so-veiled language indicating Israeli strikes were aimed at Hezbollah targets near the post, said Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie.
"What that means is, in plain English, 'We've got Hezbollah fighters running around in our positions, taking our positions here and then using us for shields and then engaging the (Israeli Defence Forces)," he said.
That would mean Hezbollah was purposely setting up near the UN post, he added. It's a tactic Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie, who was the first UN commander in Sarajevo during the Bosnia civil war, said he's seen in past international missions: Aside from UN posts, fighters would set up near hospitals, mosques and orphanages....."
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