Skip to comments.Dump Condi: Foreign policy conservatives charge State Dept. has hijacked Bush agenda
Posted on 07/26/2006 2:36:52 PM PDT by red meat conservative
Conservative national security allies of President Bush are in revolt against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, saying that she is incompetent and has reversed the administrations national security and foreign policy agenda.
The conservatives, who include Newt Gingrich, Richard Perle and leading current and former members of the Pentagon and National Security Council, have urged the president to transfer Miss Rice out of the State Department and to an advisory role. They said Miss Rice, stemming from her lack of understanding of the Middle East, has misled the president on Iran and the Arab-Israeli conflict.
"The president has yet to understand that people make policy and not the other way around," a senior national security policy analyst said. "Unlike [former Secretary of State Colin] Powell, Condi is loyal to the president. She is just incompetent on most foreign policy issues."
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LOL..didn't know there were two of us, although I substitute chocolate eclairs for the gummy bears.
That's silly! What "demeanor" does a woman not have to express that the USA is their "ally?" Physical strength? Size is not automatically equated to strength, as we see with the small country of Israel, yet its powerful defense.
Her physical size, looks, have absolutely zero to do with the policies of this country, which instead have boundaries set by our democratically elected leaders, in our representational system. Leaders try to implement plans. It has nothing to do with gender.
Cojones? In my book, Secretary Rice sure had them to be there in the midst of all of this.
It's not "demeanor," which will cause other countries to agree with us. They have to find benefit as to why our plans and ideas will be better than their own plans. Israel knows when we support their actions and when we don't.
Again, if it were a gender issue, if only men were capable of adequately expressing what they expect in behavior of these nations, the men we have had working on the Middle East would have accomplished the tasks. It has nothing to do with gender.
There were female nation leaders mentioned in the Bible, and they were not recorded as something sinful or inadequate for the righteous ruling of a people.
Unintentioned, or intentioned, underestimation of the value of an entire half of the world's population, also created in the image of God, is still misogyny and wrong. Women are guilty of this, as are men.
We judge people based on their actions, not their gender or race.
Hamas can't run a slate here in the US, nor can any other terrorist group, we have democratic elections.
The participation of armed groups in elections was banned under Oslo. Parties participating in elections had to be approved both by the PA and Israel. The US didn't allow al Qaida to run a slate in Afghanistan, or in Iraq. We did push for Hamas in the PA, Hizbollah in Lebanon, al Sadr in Iraq, and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. So far no one is dying in Egypt, but imo it was a mistake as well.
Frankly GWB's emphasis on "Democracy", as defined by single elections, is incomplete. Seems to me "Democracy" must also include political and religious freedoms, a unitary system of governance and justice, and a demonstrated ability to transfer power peacefully. Terrorist groups don't fit in that equation.
You are yet another waste of time who twists the words and meanings of others so you can ramble on meaninglessly.
I NEVER mentioned race, you did. One cannot say anything slightly politically incorrent around you or any other liberal without being labelled with one of your buzz words, like misogynist.
Also, I disagree with you that U.S. knows better than other countries as to what they should do in their own best interests. Israel knows best in this situation.
Your RINO horns?
No one need look any further than Nicholas Burns - he with a long history rotating in and out of State Department, congressional staffs and think tanks, leaving the State Department sometime early in the first Bush administration to become a senior foreign policy advisor to the presidential campaign of...................................................................... .............................................................................
Burns then got rehired at State by Condi after Colin left.
That's the facts.
Do you think Colin knew something Condi didn't? And are you the least bit curious how Condi - with her "loyalty to Bush" - reconciled herself to Burn's active work on behalf of Kerry?
I brought this strange fact up to Condi's defenders here months ago when - after repeated warnings directly from Abbas - Condi claimed to be surprised by the Hamas election victory. I said then she has been captured by the experienced permanent government types like Burns, who, like the executives of a dying multinational conglomerate believe their own PR against all observable evidence to the contrary - the world is always as they believe it to be, not as it really is. Condi might truthfully be naive as to the validity of the "exerienced advice" of the snakes like Burns who manage to sell appeasment as a strength.
Nicholas Burns, a Kerry supporter: that is the BOMB! Literally.
Not simply a Kerry supporter - an active paid senior advisor.
I have to go now, but I think you should ping some interested parties back to this thread.
'Tain't no pleasin' some folks, Canard.
I certainly did not say you did. No one here did. I brought it up to make the point that sometimes we have unintentioned prejudice against race and women.
Instead, you chose to associate me with a liberal which is lying, slander, wrong, and namecalling, (activities dishonest people which includes liberals would do).
Misogynist is my "buzzword" as you claim?? It's just a shorter way of saying "someone who has a dislike of women." It's called editing a post to make it shorter.
Standing up for the validity of women should certainly not be a liberal cause. Because radical feminism was wrong, does not mean that conservatives have to throw out the good lessons: like women can have value. Otherwise, on this point we're no different than Islamicists.
I don't like when a girl Sheriff responds to a call, pulling up in the squad car with painted daisies on her fingernails. She may be skilled, but I don't "feel" the comfort of protection I was hoping for. But my point was that Dr. Rice IS skilled, and being a woman, particularly the way she handles herself, is not a detriment at all, and is instead an asset.
You're exactly right! Nor does it fit most of these countries, because they can turn around and with a majority 'democratically' elect an evil person and system.
Freedom, Liberty, those would have been much better terms to use than Democracy.
I meant SOLELY a liberal cause.
BTW, when someone says "Islam means peace", it really doesn't mean the same thing so don't bother us with one of those quotes. Get one that says what you said ~ nothing less than that will suffice.
I'll give it a hotkey on my desktop.
When it comes to State, your ambition to "clean" it out suggests that you know where there's a ready supply of folks to replace the current staff.
How much you willing to pay for them? Right now, DC is so difficult to commute into every day, and housing prices are so high, downtown agencies find they have to pay entry level analysts (GS7/9) salaries (with bonus) they were paying GS 15s just a couple of years ago.
Frankly, no one with the requisite skills wants to work at State ~ there are plenty of other places, just as interesting, scattered hither and yon in cheaper (or easier to commute to) areas.
The State Department has been pro-Arab and vehemently anti-Jew since before WWII. And I say anti-Jew because Israel didn't even EXIST at the time the State Department picked up it's hatred.
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