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Dump Condi: Foreign policy conservatives charge State Dept. has hijacked Bush agenda
Insight Magazine ^ | July 26th | Daniel

Posted on 07/26/2006 2:36:52 PM PDT by red meat conservative

Conservative national security allies of President Bush are in revolt against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, saying that she is incompetent and has reversed the administration’s national security and foreign policy agenda.

The conservatives, who include Newt Gingrich, Richard Perle and leading current and former members of the Pentagon and National Security Council, have urged the president to transfer Miss Rice out of the State Department and to an advisory role. They said Miss Rice, stemming from her lack of understanding of the Middle East, has misled the president on Iran and the Arab-Israeli conflict.

"The president has yet to understand that people make policy and not the other way around," a senior national security policy analyst said. "Unlike [former Secretary of State Colin] Powell, Condi is loyal to the president. She is just incompetent on most foreign policy issues."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
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I've written a lot about my disdain for Condi's support of a Palestinian terror state. Here are some excerpts:

Every reader knows by now that I don't hide my disdain for the current Secretary of State Condi Rice. Her vociferous advocating of a Palestinian Hamas terror state in the midst of the war on terror, along with other appeasement policies in regard to Iran, have really rattled my nerves as a "red meat conservative". Well, it looks like other major conservatives are now calling for her removal. Here is an article from Insight Magazine that reports about major conservatives such as Richard Perle, Newt Gingrich, and top aids to Cheney and Rumsfeld calling for Bush to remove Miss Rice from the State Dep't. Newt explained his position, "We are sending signals today that no matter how much you provoke us, no matter how viciously you describe things in public, no matter how many things you're doing with missiles and nuclear weapons, the most you'll get out of us is talk. Also, "Condi was sent to rein in the State Department, a senior congressional staffer said, "instead she was reined in".

The article goes on to say, "the critics said Miss Rice has adopted the approach of Mr. Burns and the State Department bureaucracy that most if not all problems in the Middle East can be eased by applying pressure on Israel. They said even as Hezbollah was raining rockets on Israeli cities and communities, Miss Rice was on the phone nearly every day demanding that the Israeli government of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert exercise restraint." This article has confirmed my fears about the Clintonian foreign policy of Miss Rice.

Rice has just met with arch terrorist Mahmoud Abbas. She announced that she expects two states to exist side by side. So lets get this straight. She meets with Arafat's top deputy and demands the creation of a Palestinian terror state in the midst of a war that was triggered by these very Clintonian suicidal policies of concessions and appeasement that she is advocating once again! She is actually calling for a Hamas state! Also, keep in mind that Abbas, besides for being out of power and irrelevant is just as much of a terrorist as Hamas. He is the head of Fatah which fields the Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades, which is based in Syria. So this guy who was the top aid of Hitler in a headscarf and who has ties ti Syrian terrorists is able to have a cordial audience with an American Sec. of State?! And by the way, nobody has ever explained to me how it is geographically possible to create two states (in an area the size of New Jerzey) without breaking one in half? Only one of them can be contiguous

1 posted on 07/26/2006 2:36:53 PM PDT by red meat conservative
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To: red meat conservative

What a steaming pile!


2 posted on 07/26/2006 2:40:25 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: red meat conservative

I agree, we are being too soft and slippery


3 posted on 07/26/2006 2:40:31 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (If you love peace more than you love freedom, you are bound to be left hopeless with neither one)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

The thing is that during the first term Rumsfeld/Cheney were closer to Bush than Colin Powell, thus the Defense Dep't was more influential than the State Dep't. In the second term, Condi is closer to Bush than everyone, thus the State Dep't was brought closer and given more power.


4 posted on 07/26/2006 2:43:37 PM PDT by red meat conservative (http://www.redmeatconservative.blogspot.com/)
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To: red meat conservative

It sounds like a good idea. She is quite a naif. She calls Islam a religion of peace and love.


5 posted on 07/26/2006 2:43:52 PM PDT by Stepan12 (NY Times: Bush finds cure for cancer; healthcare workers to suffer massive layoffs)
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To: Stepan12
She calls Islam a religion of peace and love.

Please tell me the name of a current office-holder, congressman or senator who does not.

I'ts got to be a short list.

6 posted on 07/26/2006 2:46:12 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: Stepan12

"It sounds like a good idea. She is quite a naif. She calls Islam a religion of peace and love."

Do you advocate 'sacking' your President on the same basis?


7 posted on 07/26/2006 2:46:29 PM PDT by Canard
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To: red meat conservative

Sad, but true.

Ol' George got rid of one incompetent - the treasonous Powell - only to give Rice the job, and watch her foul it up.

Most importantly, she doesn't understand the job. It's her job to coordinate the tools of statecraft to achieve US foreign policy objectives.

I don't see that happening.

The problems facing the nation are relatively few, and those that are not important must be ignored. Focus on the crazed mullahs and kill them when you get a chance.

At her disposal, the Secretary of State has the world's most powerful military, economy, and citizenry. Where is the comprehensive plan to use these resources?

She wanders around the world, and the nation, saying whatever comes into her little-bitty head.

I'd hoped for better, but it's just not happening.

Fire her.


8 posted on 07/26/2006 2:48:06 PM PDT by Santiago de la Vega (El hijo del Zorro)
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To: pissant; proud_yank; MNJohnnie

Ping


9 posted on 07/26/2006 2:49:15 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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I've written a lot about my disdain for Condi's support of a Palestinian terror state. Here are some excerpts:

Gee, I'm sure glad you're not posting for self-promotion./sarcasm

10 posted on 07/26/2006 2:50:11 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: capt. norm; red meat conservative
I wanted Dr. Rice to clean out State, like Goss cleaned out the CIA. Right now there is no indication how she's doing.
11 posted on 07/26/2006 2:50:27 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: jazusamo

She's fine. Leave her alone.


12 posted on 07/26/2006 2:51:02 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: capt. norm

This should be sent to a special section of FR, the Steaming Pile Section.


13 posted on 07/26/2006 2:51:33 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Stepan12

Go to a dictionary and look up "tactical".


14 posted on 07/26/2006 2:52:13 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I agree.


15 posted on 07/26/2006 2:52:28 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: red meat conservative
THIS IS BULL FARKING SPIT!
16 posted on 07/26/2006 2:54:01 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: red meat conservative

Well, there are only so many John Bolton's to go around...


17 posted on 07/26/2006 2:54:18 PM PDT by xjcsa (The internet is not a truck. It's a series of tubes.)
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To: Perdogg
I wanted Dr. Rice to clean out State, like Goss cleaned out the CIA.

That would be excellent! Darn near impossible, as entrenched as these Clinton time-bombs are, but I'd sure like to see it happen.

Goss did good, but was unable to finishe. Maybe Hillary found his FBI file in her collection.

18 posted on 07/26/2006 2:56:34 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Al right. Advocating a Hamas terror state in the midst of a war that was caused largely due to those type of policies is a good idea?

She has it right on Hizbolla, not on Hamas.


19 posted on 07/26/2006 2:56:50 PM PDT by red meat conservative (http://www.redmeatconservative.blogspot.com/)
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To: red meat conservative
Every reader knows by now that I don't hide my disdain for the current Secretary of State Condi Rice



Rather full of your own importance aren't you, having only been a member for 20 days? I for one had never heard of you and don't recollect reading any of your posts/threads.
If they're all like the one above, that's explains everything. You sound like one of the plants/trolls who were given instructions how to embed themselves in right-wing forums and cause trouble to me.

Leave Condi alone.
20 posted on 07/26/2006 2:57:51 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Spreading the truth - Doing the job the MSM won't do!)
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