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Dump Condi: Foreign policy conservatives charge State Dept. has hijacked Bush agenda
Insight Magazine ^ | July 26th | Daniel

Posted on 07/26/2006 2:36:52 PM PDT by red meat conservative

Conservative national security allies of President Bush are in revolt against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, saying that she is incompetent and has reversed the administration’s national security and foreign policy agenda.

The conservatives, who include Newt Gingrich, Richard Perle and leading current and former members of the Pentagon and National Security Council, have urged the president to transfer Miss Rice out of the State Department and to an advisory role. They said Miss Rice, stemming from her lack of understanding of the Middle East, has misled the president on Iran and the Arab-Israeli conflict.

"The president has yet to understand that people make policy and not the other way around," a senior national security policy analyst said. "Unlike [former Secretary of State Colin] Powell, Condi is loyal to the president. She is just incompetent on most foreign policy issues."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; bushdoctrine; condhimmirice; condi; conservatives; dump; foreign; jamesbaker; newt; perle; pimpinforbloghits; policy; readmyblog; seminarposter; sleeper; statedept; term2; uberconalert
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To: section9

Good post Chris. Thanks.


121 posted on 07/26/2006 5:55:16 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: section9

Good post.


122 posted on 07/26/2006 5:58:18 PM PDT by marron
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To: dakine

Well you answered my "did you read" question.

If you read the article it has her finger prints all over it. Read her research from the past. The directive is quite conservative. We are going to help not do. Like the conservative stance on welfare etc.

The word may be thrown around, but she can use it properly in a sentence...


123 posted on 07/26/2006 5:58:53 PM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: dakine
I would have won any argument against you, for you are an idiot. Don't post to me again, loser.
124 posted on 07/26/2006 6:00:36 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: marron
I agree with you on the four and their relationship and I would love to see her run for President.

As far as being tough, I'll just say that I wouldn't want to mess with her and leave it at that. I think there are those on this thread who would get themselves decimated in a few seconds flat under the right circumstances and left to lick the wounds resulting from a tangle with a (gasp) nice, talented little black woman.

125 posted on 07/26/2006 6:00:49 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog
A lot of people seem to be suffering from the If I don't know about it, it isn't happening syndrome these days, huh?
126 posted on 07/26/2006 6:03:14 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: red meat conservative

For years, it has been common knowledge that State is populated by alot of silly lefty types. It's no secret, and no Secretary of State, or President has solved the problem by firing the lot of them. A Secretary of State is a temporary employee, and Presidents to date have not had the stones to do what needs to be done.

Clean the place out if you want a change. Appoint a Secretary of State whose first action is to demand a resignation of every employee, union or not. Fire the whole bunch of them and re-hire those that deserve employment.

Think that will happen, think again.


127 posted on 07/26/2006 6:05:24 PM PDT by alarm rider (Those that vote for RINOS knowingly, have already admitted defeat.)
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To: pollyannaish
It is really unbelievable, these know-nothing numb-skulls do a lot of talking, but apparently not a lot of reading.
128 posted on 07/26/2006 6:05:50 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

You say something? You stated "massive" changes at the State Dept., I questioned your knowledge of such (I have vested interest, being D.C.centric).
You still have stated nothing of the "MASSIVE" changes, and finally you resort to flippant name calling.

hahaha...


129 posted on 07/26/2006 6:06:31 PM PDT by dakine
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To: dakine
You must not like it here. Keep posting to me, and someone will soon show you out.
130 posted on 07/26/2006 6:08:38 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: red meat conservative

LOL red meat conservative; you've been a Freeper for 20 whole days and you're the brain child of the Conservative Cause.

Let me tell you something Bozo; Condi Rice is one of the most intelligent and capable people in the Bush Administration. She is the most powerful and respected woman in the world.

As for Newt wanting her kicked out of the State Department: While Newt was whoring around on his first wife who had cancer, she was making a name for herself, honorably, by hard work and dedication; not as some sleazy politician who couldn't even win his own party's primary for reelection in his home district.

Neither you nor Newt Gingrich would make a decent scab on Condoleezza Rice's a**.


131 posted on 07/26/2006 6:09:25 PM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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To: red meat conservative

She's just advocating the same policy pushed by the President himself - which predates her coming to the position. This is nonsense.


132 posted on 07/26/2006 6:09:54 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: dakine

Dakine,

You hear that.....?


me neither....


133 posted on 07/26/2006 6:09:59 PM PDT by dakine
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To: red meat conservative

Rice fails everywhere.

Her advice to the President has been disastrous.

She is the Harriet Miers appointee to State. With apologies to Miers because we don't know that Miers would have been incompetent. With Rice there is now no question.

When her supporters stoop to compare her to Albright and others failures, you know they have lost.

We don't need to compare Bolton to others. We see daily that he is superstar in his league. Rice is out of hers.


134 posted on 07/26/2006 6:10:22 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Hold the Rice, Serve Bolton.)
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To: Pukin Dog; pollyannaish
It is amazing to me that criticism of Condi is apparently based on mainstream media and the idea of "if I don't see it on TV it didn't happen."

Do any of these people who think she is a lightweight even understand what her credentials and experience are?

And Newt Gingrich can go pound sand. He has lost his mind, or someone is blackmailing him...take your choice. I was already steamed at his comment a few days ago that "President Bush need to decide if this is a real war and if he wants to win it." Now with this comment, I think that the men in the white coats need to come get him.

135 posted on 07/26/2006 6:11:08 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Pukin Dog
What the hey. It's easier to talk than read. That said, it's easier to read than do, so I have to be a little careful. ; ).

I admire Condi and always have. I am now a steadfast Condi defender because she took the time to be unbelievable gracious to my 13 year old son.

What is ticking me off around this place these days is the unbearable patronizing. It's more than disagreement. It is part of a plan.

I'll be glad when November is over. And we win. Again.
136 posted on 07/26/2006 6:11:52 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: red meat conservative; capt. norm
I've written a lot about my disdain for Condi's support of a Palestinian terror state. Here are some excerpts:

Yet another "true conservative" come to USE FR for their own end.

137 posted on 07/26/2006 6:14:19 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Sabramerican
Rice fails everywhere.

Her advice to the President has been disastrous.

Such colossal ignorance has earned yours the distinction of Dumbest Post of the Day.

138 posted on 07/26/2006 6:15:14 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: capt. norm

My gosh! She's a "diplomat" for heaven sakes! I'd say she's one tough lady. It showed this morning when she stood up to Kofi.


139 posted on 07/26/2006 6:15:51 PM PDT by zook ("We all knew someone in primary school who had a really powerful magnet")
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To: Sabramerican
We don't need to compare Bolton to others. We see daily that he is superstar in his league. Rice is out of hers.

I will agree with you on Bolton. The guy is top notch, I keep thinking, where has he been all these years.

I like Rice. I don't like the so-called two-state solution (which is really a three-state solution), as you probably know. It pre-dates Bush (and Sharon, and Olmert), but Bush was wrong to continue it. The present festivities give us a chance to deep-six this unworkable plan, or at least I consider it unworkable.

I fear that we will continue to cling to it for some time longer, and as we waste time pursuing a plan that, in the end, can't work, more people die.

But its Bush that will have to make that decision. Rice will execute it when he does.

140 posted on 07/26/2006 6:16:08 PM PDT by marron
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