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1 posted on 07/26/2006 9:35:02 AM PDT by cajunman
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I was just about to post a thread...glad I checked first....I am watching Court TV.


2 posted on 07/26/2006 9:36:10 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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She's got to be found guilty. There's no way she didn't know she was harming those children.


7 posted on 07/26/2006 9:40:18 AM PDT by katieanna
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She should get the needle.


8 posted on 07/26/2006 9:40:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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MSPlayer live feed link to Click2Houston:

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10 posted on 07/26/2006 9:42:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Click2Houston commentator says this jury is probably more lenient and that the 'do you support the death penalty' question was not asked of them. Thus, we probably can expect a 'mental illness' decision.


15 posted on 07/26/2006 9:45:48 AM PDT by TomGuy
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At least the cable outlets will have something to talk about. They always fail us so terribly on the really important stuff, but let some nutcase knock off a family member, and they are wall-to-wall. How many "Trials of the Century" does this make, so far?


22 posted on 07/26/2006 9:54:19 AM PDT by thelastvirgil (Incumbent politicians: PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE.)
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Maybe she pleaded "not guilty due to insanity" so that she will be released and free to give herself the death penalty.

Well, one can hope, anyway...


25 posted on 07/26/2006 9:59:17 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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She's a woman, therefore she must have been insane to kill her children.

Not Guilty, BROI.


26 posted on 07/26/2006 9:59:36 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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Looks like she's been eating pretty good.
30 posted on 07/26/2006 10:01:43 AM PDT by TomGuy
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The Mother who Drowned her FIVE children in cold blood has been rendered NOT GUILTY by Reason of Insanity

Idiots!!!!!!!!

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40 posted on 07/26/2006 10:04:41 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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She should be found guilty, IMO. She waited until Capt. Useless (Rusty) went to work and BEFORE her MIL came to help her out. She knew it was wrong. She's crazier then a s---house rat, but she knew it was wrong.


42 posted on 07/26/2006 10:04:47 AM PDT by retrokitten
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47 posted on 07/26/2006 10:05:02 AM PDT by TomGuy
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I want to cry right now.


60 posted on 07/26/2006 10:07:52 AM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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This is the fruit of liberal feminazis being in charge in the judicial system. Abortion is OK no matter how long after birth.


63 posted on 07/26/2006 10:08:10 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is the ideology of nihilism, despair, nothingness and death.)
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Not guilty because she was nuts. Bingo. Only problem is that her husband never stood in the dock. The family knew Andrea needed a lot of help, and she didn't get it.


65 posted on 07/26/2006 10:08:20 AM PDT by hershey
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This is a sick, demented, and yes…INSANE society to find this woman not responsible for the 5 murders she committed.

Jesus…It sounds cliché but who the hell is looking out for the children!!!

The damn “culture of death’ issues in this country get me so riled up that I can barely think straight.


66 posted on 07/26/2006 10:08:27 AM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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Holy crap!


67 posted on 07/26/2006 10:08:42 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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I'm not surprised, I think she is clearly "not right in the head", insane at the time she did it. Not saying she shouldn't be found guilty, but I agree that she was insane.


72 posted on 07/26/2006 10:09:13 AM PDT by Paradox (Removing all Doubt since 1998!)
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Those kids would still be alive if Bush hadn't lied. Clearly Yates was unable to contain the pent-up rage she held within herself over Bush's lies and then took it out on the kids. Bush is clearly responsible.

Just wait, it's coming.

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82 posted on 07/26/2006 10:10:42 AM PDT by Arcy
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Well sure she is insane, but so was Ted Bundy and any number of long-since executed murderers.

Where do we draw the line?


88 posted on 07/26/2006 10:11:34 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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It's all Bush's fault.


101 posted on 07/26/2006 10:13:38 AM PDT by Arcy
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She is a serial killer and she got away with murder under the eyes of Texas.

What a shame that this is what our society has become.


103 posted on 07/26/2006 10:13:59 AM PDT by TomGuy
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This is a travesty and I am ashamed that a Texas jury did this.
That woman was sane enough to kill her children while her husband was at work. She was sane enough to fill the tub with water. Sane enough to pull one child into the bathroom at a time and CLOSE THE DOOR so the others wouldn't be able to defend. She was sane enough to call the police and her husband afterward saying "I've done something awful". she's not insane. disgusting.


127 posted on 07/26/2006 10:17:32 AM PDT by katieanna
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Post Abortion Syndrome. Let's just hope she gets locked up for at least the same period of time as John Hinkley Jr.


137 posted on 07/26/2006 10:19:10 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Rabid ethnicist.)
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If she were sane she would kill herself. She'll be on suicide watch for the rest of her life. She will be a self-loathing and loathed-by-all monster for the rest of her life, pumped so full of drugs that she probably does not even know who she is. Don't hate her. Just shudder at the grace and mercy of God who could impose a such a living hell on everyone who deserves it, yet does not.


140 posted on 07/26/2006 10:19:14 AM PDT by Theophilus (Abortion = Child Sacrifice = Future Sacrifice)
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Does the verdict rendered,under Texas law,allow for her to be released from the hospital for any reason?

For example,if...say 2,or 5,or 10,or 20 years from now...the hospital declares her to to be "completely cured",does she have the legal right to be unconditionally released?

151 posted on 07/26/2006 10:21:32 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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How ridiculous!

She should be swinging from a gallows, but since she's a woman, she gets to live. BS.


154 posted on 07/26/2006 10:21:53 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Down with Half-Assery!)
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Verdict Reached in Andrea Yates Case (UPDATE: Not Guilty by reason of insanity)

Absolutely INSANE!!

156 posted on 07/26/2006 10:22:12 AM PDT by evad
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Punish a mass murderer for drowning innocent children.
Why she did it, might make an interesting read for some liberal, but it should have no affect on punishment.

Example; "Religious" male leaves Mosque and proceeds to food market where
he plants a bomb that later kills 16 shoppers.
His reason for murdering the innocent was that he wanted to be a martyr and be received by a truck load of virgins.
If you call him insane, you will be labeled an insensitive bigot.


157 posted on 07/26/2006 10:22:17 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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Of course the woman was insane. But who cares? Murder is murder. And it's even worse that it was children. Shows EXACTLY how much society values its children...


158 posted on 07/26/2006 10:22:30 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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A victory for NARAL, Planned Parenthood, and NOW


184 posted on 07/26/2006 10:25:26 AM PDT by npg
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Hey guys, have pity on this poor woman, her children are dead. /SARC


209 posted on 07/26/2006 10:29:28 AM PDT by Surtur (Free Trade is NOT Fair Trade unless both economies are equivalent.)
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Good. I've followed this tragic story right from the beginning and believe this was the right decision for her.


282 posted on 07/26/2006 10:48:45 AM PDT by GraceofGod
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The court reporter then read the brief transcript, in which Dietz said Yates "believed that Satan was at least present. She felt or sensed the presence."

There's no doubt in my mind that some demonic spirit was present at the time, since this kind of evil is well outside the order of natural evils. I hope that doesn't make me "insane."

The fact that Yates was behaving irrationally doesn't preclude the possibility that she was behaving with malice. Evil is irrational by nature, but not all irrational acts are evil, such as a person's mistaken belief that he is the King of England.

Apparently, the jury believed that her acts fell into this latter category (irrational but not evil), but this seems to me to be impossible, since a mother's natural disposition is to care for her children. An evil force outside of the normal course of nature is a necessary to cause such a profoundly evil and disordered act.

Regardless of the jury decision, I'll be happy as long as she is confined to prison for life. I skimmed the article, and didn't see any reference to her sentence.

307 posted on 07/26/2006 10:58:02 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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I believe it is insane to murder people and cut up their bodies into pieces, which is what the islamic terrorists do all the time. Maybe they should just be institutionalized and have counseling.


319 posted on 07/26/2006 11:03:07 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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Not guilty because the jury is nuts. Thats the reason.
333 posted on 07/26/2006 11:11:48 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)
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Unbelievable.

That jury needs to be committed.

385 posted on 07/26/2006 12:29:31 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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What have they done?!!!
There is no justice.
The blood of the innocents cries out from the ground.
-- Genesis 4:10

414 posted on 07/26/2006 1:08:40 PM PDT by XR7
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It is what it is, MURDER. She should be staring at striped sunlight instead of bouncing off rubber walls because she's mentally unstable. Charles Manson isn't serving life in a rubber room.


415 posted on 07/26/2006 1:08:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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Found this. Many good points.
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0322-02.htm

(excerpt)
"Rusty Yates is Culpable, Too
Father's Bizarre, Domineering Actions Played a Role in Children's Deaths

by Barbara Robinson

Who is responsible for the death of Noah, John, Paul, Luke and Mary Yates? A jury unanimously voted Andrea Pia Kennedy Yates, a registered nurse, guilty of killing her children. Interviewed after the verdict, some of the jury members have said her husband should have been on trial instead of Andrea.
OK, so the demeanor of Russell (Rusty) Yates -- all-American, Eagle Scout -- didn't persuade me. I couldn't understand how a man could repeatedly impregnate a mentally ill wife and force or allow her to home-school their children. Yates exhibited a sense of arrogance as he explained why his children had to be home-schooled: "The social integration that the world claims is so essential is exactly what we need to protect our children from." So the Yates didn't integrate with their neighbors, who didn't agree with Rusty's beliefs.

Rusty Yates claims he and Andrea jointly made decisions -- including Andrea giving birth to all five children without pain control measures; Andrea abandoning her nursing career to become a homemaker; Andrea home-schooling the children; the family moving from their four-bedroom house into a 38-foot trailer and an adjacent 350-square-foot motor home.

On June 26, just six days after the Yates children's deaths, Harris County, Texas, Judge Belinda Hill imposed a gag order prohibiting Rusty and any persons who had given statements to the police and to the district attorney from discussing how Andrea got to this point. This prevented Rusty, his family and Andrea's family from speaking to the press until the trial was over.

Since the day after the trial ended, Rusty and the families have appeared on every major television network to recite their version of what happened. In his need to share the blame for the deaths of his children, Rusty asked why anyone would blame him for Andrea's condition when a doctor trained to deal with mental illness wasn't able to predict her actions.

Rusty has repeatedly shared his disgust with the medical system's handling of Andrea's case. He has asked how she could have been so ill while the medical community failed to diagnose her, treat her and protect the rest of the family from her. He plans to sue Andrea's last psychiatrist, Dr. Mohammad Saeed, who took Andrea off her medication three weeks before she killed her five children.

Andrea's family, the Kennedys, claims Rusty was not attentive enough to Andrea's mental health needs. The Kennedy family has a history of mental illness that affects several members. Time magazine has reported that Andrea's brother and sister both suffer from depression, another brother has bipolar disorder, and the father who died after years of Alzheimer's may have had depression. This family demonstrates the genetic nature of mental illness. "


446 posted on 07/26/2006 2:40:41 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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Oh great!

When she is sane, she can move to my neighborhood.

She is a nurse. She can get a job at an abortion clinic doing what she does best murdering children!
464 posted on 07/26/2006 3:35:04 PM PDT by after dark ('Tis now the very witching time of night;)
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She gets off, but Susan Smith gets convicted?

I hope she never gets pregnant again.

485 posted on 07/26/2006 4:34:01 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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This sure feels like open season on children. Imagine how the millions of children who learned about this case feel now, knowing thier mothers could drown them at any time and not be punished.

It was bad enough that all these children know that mothers are free to kill their siblings before they are born, now they know that their lives are never protected.


504 posted on 07/26/2006 5:05:31 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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"If Yates is found innocent by reason of insanity"

One cannot be found "innocent" by any means; one can only be found "not guilty".

ESPECIALLY in this murdering b#$%h's case, she is guilty as sin of killing her children, and regardless of what make-shift defense is used, the fact remains and always will remain that she murdered her defenseless children.

For a jury to acquit her, they are playing games with words and socially-engineering the intent of the law. Period.

506 posted on 07/26/2006 5:16:00 PM PDT by traditional1
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Sickening. I do not believe she didn't know what she was doing.


514 posted on 07/26/2006 5:23:59 PM PDT by ladyinred (The NYTimes, hang 'em high!)
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lame, lame, lame.

If anyone drowns their 5 childen they are OBVIOUSLY INSANE.

Its not an excuse or a reason for lesser punishment.

In a different media age, people who thought they would be given 72 virgins in heaven if only they blew themselves up in a church during a wedding would be considered INSANE.


546 posted on 07/26/2006 6:45:14 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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FYI


562 posted on 07/26/2006 7:22:14 PM PDT by HitmanLV (All hail, King Booker! All hail. King Booker! New WWE Champion!!)
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Here is a link to a very good, very detailed and very long ... stay with it, it's worth the time and effort if you're really wanting to learn what's going on here ... discussion of the insanity defense:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/insanity/1.html

568 posted on 07/26/2006 7:24:36 PM PDT by GB
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Who will play Andrea, in the movie?


591 posted on 07/26/2006 7:49:31 PM PDT by greasepaint
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Has anybody posted this comment from a juror:

Juror Todd Frank said it was clear to him that Yates had psychosis before, during and after the drownings. "She needs help," Frank said. "Although she's treated, I think she's worse than she was before. I think she'll probably need treatment for the rest of her life."

Also, the DA is recommending against a trial for the other 2 kids. So basically, it's over.

593 posted on 07/26/2006 7:53:22 PM PDT by GB
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