With a grandfathered exception for Billy Goat Tavern?
Posted on 07/24/2006 3:11:31 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
CHICAGO - If you're a cell phone-using, goose liver-eating, cigarette-smoking, fast food-loving person, Chicago might not be your kind of town.
In this city that once winked at Prohibition, members of the City Council are trying to crack down on things they deem unhealthy, immoral or just plain annoying.
A proposal that would restrict fast-food chains from cooking with artery-clogging trans fat oils got a public airing last week, and in the past year alone aldermen have banned smoking in nearly all public places and the use of cell phones while driving.
In April, Chicago became the first U.S. city to outlaw the sale of foie gras, a goose liver delicacy that is decried by animal-rights activists because it is created by force-feeding birds to fatten up their livers.
Critics, including the mayor, wonder if the City Council has suddenly deemed itself the behavior police.
"We have children getting killed by gang leaders and dope dealers," an angry Mayor Richard M. Daley said earlier this year. "We have real issues here in this city. And we're dealing with foie gras? Let's get some priorities."
Aldermen say they are addressing real problems and protecting their constituents. And they deny the proposals are diverting their attention from major issues like a city budget crunch.
"The fact that there may be greater wrongs to address doesn't mean we cannot also address what we might also view as lesser wrongs," said Alderman Joe Moore, who led the effort to ban foie gras.
Some observers say aldermen who used to do what Daley wanted them to do are feeling emboldened because Daley has been weakened by a City Hall scandal that has snared some of his top aides. Others wonder if the proposals have more to do with a changing city, one that is no longer home to steel mills and stockyards.
"This is the legislation of refinement," said Perry Duis, a University of Illinois-Chicago historian who has written extensively on Chicago. "This is a city of Starbucks rather than the steel mill."
Alderman Burton Natarus, who has sponsored a host of noise ordinances aimed at turning down the volume on street musicians, construction workers, boom boxes and motorcycles, agreed with those who argue the council is sticking its nose where it doesn't belong.
"I think we are trying to control people's behavior too much," said Natarus, who regrets voting for the foie gras ban. "We are trying to itty-bitty regulate every facet of somebody's life."
The latest target is trans fat, found in some oils used to fry chicken, fries and other foods. A proposed ordinance would limit the use of such oils by fast-food chains in the city. Like the foie gras ban, the proposal earned the mayor's scorn.
"Is the City Council going to plan our menus?" he asked.
When the trans fat idea first came up, the Chicago Sun-Times weighed in with an editorial facetiously referring to the council's "special Committee to rid Chicago of Everything That is Bad for Us," and wondering if it was "only a matter of time before they propose ordinances against certain cell phone ring-tones, secondhand barbecue smoke and bug zappers."
More than a few Chicagoans say they don't need the City Council looking over their shoulders at lunch time.
"I'm a big boy," Kerry Dunaway said as he ate fried chicken recently. "I can take care of myself."
BUMP
All your freedom are belong to us.
Resurrect Bugsey Moran, please!
How long until Valentine's Day?
Will the city prosecute if a citizen imports some through the post office (by mail) or by car (buys it in another city)?
Is possession criminalized or just sale?
And I believe the anti-WalMart "Big Box" vote will come up on Wednesday.
With a grandfathered exception for Billy Goat Tavern?
"We have children getting killed by gang leaders and dope dealers," an angry Mayor Richard M. Daley said earlier this year. "We have real issues here in this city. And we're dealing with foie gras? Let's get some priorities."
The city council in Chicago is the cantina scene in Star Wars.
Did they outlaw "Passing gas in an elevator" yet?
"...members of the City Council are trying to crack down on things they deem unhealthy, immoral or just plain annoying."
This is always where it starts. Is there some reason that people in government don't understand that government solves NOTHING? People solve problems...and these aren't even PROBLEMS!
Why not tackle crime or allow IL citizens to arm themselves? How about cutting spending and lowering taxes? But no, it's always got to be these stupid Nanny State missions.
I HATE using this term, but the majority of City Councils in blue areas are truly stuck on stupid! I lived under a regime like this when I was a property owner/business manager in Madistan. I fled the city limits as soon as I could. Friggin' socialists!
I gotta tell you, I am LMAO. And wondering where I will move when my small town gets to this point.
Aren't they also trying to pass a minimum wage increase that requires Target and similar stores to provide mandatory health care etc?
I heard on the radio that if passed, Target would close three stores and stop plans for more stores...
Hear anything like that?
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Actually most eloquent Mr. Mayor, I think they've got their priorities.
Maybe they'll go in in the dark of night with bulldozers to enforce them.
Of course. Lefties don't care about people being hurt by crime in the streets. To control that would violate their ideas on political correctness. But they do want to intrude into and control peoples' lives. No surprise, when you understand libs.
I live about 100 miles north of Chicago - I may just set up a foi gras stand at the Wisconsin border - ya know like a fireworks store or a cheese hut or a "gentlemen's club" . . . . but only selling fois gras . . . . .I'd make a mint!!
Interesting, the trans-fat ban would kill Chicago's famous pizza and hot dog restaurants. It would close down black soul food restaurants.
Sounds like it's degenerated even further...like the Mexican cantina scene in From Dusk To Dawn.
I look forward to the ban on artery-clogging, love-handle-causing Chicago style pizza and hot dogs. Pretty soon obesity will be illegal, also.
soon only outlawas will have foie gras
outlaws
OMG.........NANNY STATE PING.......and YES, I AM SHOUTING.
Criminy.
"Well, there [they] go, again."
And wondering where I will move when my small town gets to this point.
I am already pursuing this, as my city has been amalgamated into the greater borg.
I live in the 'rural' area of my city, and for the $2400/year I pay in taxes, I get police and fire service, garbage pickup, and mail delivery to a community mail box.
My road is not paved, there are no city services of water or sewer, no street lights, no bonfires allowed.
If I sell, and move only 15 mins. further out from the city, I can have some freedom again.
The nanny state can bite me.
:-)
Sheer genius...
ROFL.........stay outta my small town........your "small town" has a larger populatino than the entire county I live in.
This reminds me of the movie "The Island" which was sort of like 1984.
Alderman Burton Natarus looking like the picture of health last year. :o)
You can't get French fries at the Billygoat Tavern; never could...just potato chips.
Good for you!!!!
Good going!!!!!!
Going to see the family, at the end of August and since my daughter has LOVED pate, from childhood, I'm gonna smuggle some in for her; with truffles, naturally. :-)
I like the way you think!!!!!!!
And I always bring my own cigarettes, so that I don't EVER have to buy them in Chicago!
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(in 1962...)
MOVE! ;)
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Not that long ago, this sort of thing would cause the tar and feathers to make an appearance.
do they have White Castle in Chitown?
if so, this law would really put a crimp on them.....
Only after your federal and state governments have pared down the choices first.
So very true Elk. I was watching a documentary on the Revolutionary War on the Military channel Saturday. It had some interesting stories on what happened to the Tories/Loyalists during the war and after. It makes me so angry that the people have become neutered over time.
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