Posted on 07/22/2006 7:32:38 PM PDT by freedom44
Liberation yes but not with large numbers of American boots on the ground.
Their liberty can only come from themselves. We cannot and should not force it upon them.
How about Iran liberates themselves. We did it. They can too. And yes, they'll have to bleed and die for it. Better they do it than we sacrifice our young men's lives for them. That sounds cold and it is. Maybe we should send them guns and train them how to beat the mullahs. That works for me. Like the French did when we were fighting the British. Otherwise the Iranians need to pay their own way - freedom isn't free.
Yep, no US personnel in iran. Nuke 'em or nothing.
I seem to remember similar words being spoken about another country two or three years back. Not so interested in sticking our collective hand in a hornet's nest again.
Iran is the engine that is driving terrorism in the ME. Iran is fomenting problems in Iraq (Al Sadr), funding Hizbollah, Hamas, and has made Assad their b*tch.
I don't think a full scale infantry will be effective, but I do think we need to act quickly and boldy. The chessboard as it is now is unacceptable and bold action must be taken to change it.
We need to do enough to tip the balance of power to enable an Iranian revolution.
Then the Iranians better hurry up and liberate their own country. Let them earn it. The Iraqis have shown they don't deserve the freedom we gave them a chance to win.
I think it's pretty likely that we have people in the country cultivating relationships in the event of an unexpected regime change.
Winning over Iran is the key to ending the nuke issue, the key to peace in the middle east and successfully fighting the WOT.
The current regime must be overthrown.
Time is running out.
We need Iran as an ally again, and attacking them won't do that. We need to help them as we've helped other countries gain their freedom from dictators and we need to start helping them do it now.
I'm fine with removing the Mullah's in Iran, but NO staying to build them an "Islamic Democracy". Go in and remove the regime as a lesson to other enemies of the United States is just fine by me. The Iranians can take over from there, though I think an awful lot of people will be disappointed to discover that perhaps a majority of Iranians are not so unhappy with exactly what they have. Ya, some of the Iranians to include college students hate the ruling clerics, but I'm not so sure that the actual majority of the population feels quite the same.
So ya, destroying the regime may be a good plan, but NO more with this fantasy that Islam is compatible with any democracy we would recognize. If the plan is to build Iran a democracy, I will absolutely oppose it.
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
Maybe less of a hornets' nest: Iraq was a civil war waiting to happen (Kurds, Sunnis, Shiites) -- Iran more culturally and religiously homogeneous.
Give Iran a kick start....drop a few cruise missiles on the monkey mans and mad mullahs heads...Boooooom.....then let the Iranians take it fom there.,,,,
HISTORY: February 1778 --- As a result of the patriot victory at Saratoga and American diplomatic efforts, France allies itself with the new American government. French financial and military aid will prove critical in winning the war. The Continental Army will learn of the French Alliance in May.
HUMINT: While Iranians are not in a colonial position to declare independence, the Iranian revolution is still afoot. Looking back at the rhetoric of the late seventies and early eighties in Iran… the streets were full of men and women thirsty for freedom. They were openly clashing with the fascists! It's still happening. The initial Iranian version of Saratoga occurred sometime ago and has reoccurred since. It has been an abysmal failure of the West, blind to the inner meaning of these unsettling instabilities. Granted, Iranian expatriates operate inharmoniously and are easily caricatured, (foolishly) by each other and the regime, but their passion for change is irrefutable.
Yes, the West can make great strides to amplify dissident tremors transforming them into a roaring earthquake. In the ensuing turbulence, great generals would emerge to take the fight to the fascist enemy! But could they do it in time? Could they forestall a nuclear armed Iran?
The least Iranian dissidents should do is work in concert with other forces of freedom. Imagine the alternative! Imagine a fight to end the Iranian threat without a chorus of Iranian democrats to set the stage for a lasting freedom in Iran… personally, I imagine …smoke, fire and more pain than these unharmonious Iranian dissidents can fathom today. Sad really…
truth...some may not want to agree...but it's the truth.
On the other hand, we have nothing to show for all the foreign aid we have dribbled away over the years to countries that do not change, Give it another three years and see what the Iraq project looks like then,
"If the plan is to build Iran a democracy, I will absolutely oppose it."
So would the Iranians. They've had freedom and democracy before. It's not Iraq.
Then you must be an idiot
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