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The anti-smoking lobby's hidden agenda
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | June 12, 2006 | Klaus Rohrich

Posted on 07/21/2006 3:15:06 PM PDT by SheLion

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To: moog
10 years ago, I was making a point.

Today, it is WAR!

41 posted on 07/21/2006 6:17:44 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: moog

Could be.


42 posted on 07/21/2006 6:20:41 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: SheLion

I'm not sure about second hand smoke, but my wife is a nurse and has treated many many many people with lung cancer, and all of them had first hand smoke.

She must be in on the conspiracy too! I'll be watching her.


43 posted on 07/21/2006 6:22:00 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: KoRn
My wife has been an RN for the last 30 years. For years, she would lecture me about smoking.

In our home, we have designated smoking an non-smoking areas. Mutual respect was something that we learned about, before we even got married.

Today, I am the healthy one in this family. Sue has been in the hospital so often over the last few years, that a "high-priced hooker" would be cheaper!

Since the year 2000, my wife has had medical costs totaling over $250,000. I tease her, since she walks more like a Chimp than a Human.

So NEVER lecture me about the dangers of smoking!

This smoker has been smoking since he was 16 years old. Today, at the age of 51, I can run circles around most people.

Thank God that this smoker is responsible for the care of his darling wife. Without this smoker, she would have lost everything.

44 posted on 07/21/2006 6:38:58 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: Hunble
Good luck. I don't even smoke cigarettes, but I got your back.

I just stopped by the JR Cigar Store by me. There used to be a sitting area where old men would smoke their cigars and yap. Many people would buy a cigar to light up, while they shopped and mingled about.

Now, thanks to New Jersey's smoke nazis, there's no smoking in the cigar store. In the freaking cigar store!

45 posted on 07/21/2006 6:40:26 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Hunble
" This smoker has been smoking since he was 16 years old."

I smoke as well, and I intend to quit as soon as I'm up to it lol. I believe most people with lung cancer may smoke, but most people who smoke don't get lung cancer. It's just a horrible disease that's convenient to scare people with. It gets the most 'bang for the buck'.

46 posted on 07/21/2006 6:43:41 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: dead
Saturday, I will have people visiting my home. They intend to take blood, urine samples and conduct other invasive medical test.

Why? Because my wife wants to save $20 per month on my life insurance!

Hmmm, let me think about this. My darling wife is subjecting me to invasive medical probings to save her $20 a month?

Remember, my wife and this insurance company are betting money on MY LIFE! Since I will be dead, why should I care who gets the most profits from my death?

I all honesty, I intend to be totally drunk and 'smoking like a chimney' whey they show up on Saturday.

Like I have stated before, THIS IS WAR!

47 posted on 07/21/2006 6:50:55 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping!


48 posted on 07/21/2006 9:22:00 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Hunble

"Today, I will smoke in their rooms, and there is nothing that they can do about it!"


I go to a Hell's Angel bar sometimes, that complies with California nonsmoking laws, it would convince me of your dedication if you would try to smoke in there.


49 posted on 07/21/2006 10:27:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: Hunble
Sorry you feel you have to puff anywhere you want.

I am an asthmatic who is allergic to tobacco smoke and has wound up in an ER on more than one occasion as a result. I love to have to change hotel rooms when I check in because the previous guest had to satisfy his drug addiction in a nonsmoking room -- or move to a different room because the guest in the next room had to satisfy his drug addiction in the middle of the night.

You might wish to consider the effect you have on the innocent the next time you decide to light up in a nonsmoking area.
50 posted on 07/21/2006 10:47:24 PM PDT by Zakeet (Thank goodness we don't get all the government we pay for ~ Will Rogers)
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To: SheLion

These people don't want us to quit smoking. They are making too much money on programs, studies of fake stats, etc. etc. If we all quit smoking tomorrow they'd all be broke.


51 posted on 07/21/2006 11:04:47 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: hunter112
How much grant money would dry up tomorrow if someone came up with a cheap one dose medication that cured cancer tomorrow? How many billions invested in oncology departments? How many careers would be for all practical purposes, over?

Now think of those who have groomed their positions as antitobacconazis and you have the reason for the incrementalism.

It ain't about 'health', it is an industry being milked for all it is worth. Otherwise, the eeeeevil genus Nicotina would have been banned long ago.

52 posted on 07/21/2006 11:17:09 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: SAJ
(mental note to self: do not mess with SheLion...)

ahhhhhh I'm not that bad, am I??


53 posted on 07/22/2006 3:11:53 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: bfree
Excellent find. These people are despicable.

Lower then low!

And to think the highly paid professional anti-smokers are being paid from the taxes SMOKERS pay on cigarettes makes me want to puke.

Smokers are paying big to be controlled, restricted and banned.  Nice, eh?  not!

54 posted on 07/22/2006 3:14:36 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: hunter112
If someone successfully quits smoking, they have a limited use of the smoking cessation treatment. It's not a permanent cash cow.

Yes, but just think of how many people CAN'T quit smoking and they continually buy Big Pharms drugs to try to quit!

Don Imus has chewed Nicorette gum for "12 years" at $49.95 a pop for each box.  That money adds up!!!

55 posted on 07/22/2006 3:16:56 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Zakeet; Hunble
I am an asthmatic who is allergic to tobacco smoke and has wound up in an ER on more than one occasion as a result. I love to have to change hotel rooms when I check in because the previous guest had to satisfy his drug addiction in a nonsmoking room -- or move to a different room because the guest in the next room had to satisfy his drug addiction in the middle of the night.

You might wish to consider the effect you have on the innocent the next time you decide to light up in a nonsmoking area.

Excuse me, but I have a question:  if you are so allergic to cigarette smoke, why do you hang around smokers or go where smokers are?  If I were you, I wouldn't go anywhere near smokers.  I don't get it.

56 posted on 07/22/2006 3:26:10 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: peggybac
These people don't want us to quit smoking. They are making too much money on programs, studies of fake stats, etc. etc. If we all quit smoking tomorrow they'd all be broke.

Exactly!

And the states scream they want smoke free but can't balance the damn state budgets without cigarette taxes.

Think they might be talking out of both sides of their mouths???  heh!

57 posted on 07/22/2006 3:27:34 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

The real drug of addiction is denial.


58 posted on 07/22/2006 3:27:52 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Hunble
Today, I will smoke in their rooms, and there is nothing that they can do about it! If the rooms smells of smoke (after you check out)..they will charge you to defunk it.
59 posted on 07/22/2006 3:32:49 AM PDT by maineman
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To: SheLion

I've been railing against the transfer of profits from "big tobacco" to "big pharm" for awhile now.

The tobacco companies should start referring to "medicine" in their cigarettes and then go to court over it when the FDA raises hell. Turn it back on them. Discovery and trial would be a blast.

The collusion between government and pharmaceutical companies is the worst kind.


60 posted on 07/22/2006 3:35:34 AM PDT by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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