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The anti-smoking lobby's hidden agenda
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | June 12, 2006 | Klaus Rohrich

Posted on 07/21/2006 3:15:06 PM PDT by SheLion

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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

ahh poor baby........


141 posted on 07/23/2006 3:36:44 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: traditional1

I never said risk should be a factor in oputlawing an avtivity. And I certainly don't think cigarettes should be outlawed.


142 posted on 07/23/2006 8:14:22 PM PDT by Gone GF
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To: SheLion

I have no beef. I'm sure there are smokers who have lived into their 90s, but not very many. Generally when elderly folks are asked how they lived so long, you don't hear "I smoked a pack a day."


143 posted on 07/23/2006 8:17:12 PM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Gone GF
"I never said risk should be a factor in oputlawing an avtivity. And I certainly don't think cigarettes should be outlawed."

Thank you. That's a reasonable position to take.

144 posted on 07/24/2006 3:48:05 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Gone GF
I have no beef. I'm sure there are smokers who have lived into their 90s, but not very many. Generally when elderly folks are asked how they lived so long, you don't hear "I smoked a pack a day."

Well, I would lay a bet that smokers still live longer then an OBESE person!

145 posted on 07/24/2006 4:40:29 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Moonman62; Gabz
Some issues are worth fighting for when it comes to government regulation. Smoking isn't one of them.

I cannot believe I'm reading this on a conservative website.

146 posted on 07/24/2006 11:01:51 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813

Believe it.


147 posted on 07/24/2006 12:42:30 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Raycpa

"I beg to differ..........the numbers of smoking bans and other nanny state iniatives that fail on a regular basis does not get widespread media coverage - but believe me, they are occurring.
Denial is such a tough habit to break

Alabama"

Ummmmm...Yes, I believe this is exactly what we're so upset over; the fact that fascist freaks have taken over our country and hijacked our freedom.


148 posted on 07/26/2006 12:11:30 AM PDT by nimbuscloud
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

"People who fill others' breathing air with noxious cigarette smoke are totally selfcentered and selfish."

Excuse me?!! If you have ever had a BBQ in your back yard, lit a camp fire, had a fire in your home fireplace, or if you currently drive a car you need to back off.


149 posted on 07/26/2006 12:14:16 AM PDT by nimbuscloud
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

"You ignore the point that no one - not children or adults or elderly - are ever choosing to find themselves in these smoke-filled places. You create them.

You blow off anyone who points out the obnoxiousness of befouling human spaces.

This is no different that leaving your excrement in public places because that's convenient and what you like to do and feel you should have that right because it's not outlawed by the Constitution.

Love for your fellow man and ethics are apparently not part of your upbringing or repertoire. "Obnoxious" comes from the word that means "poisonous."

The callousness of your response speaks for itself and makes my point.

Quid est demonstrandum."

I suggest that you promptly return home to your sealed plastic, steril bubble.


150 posted on 07/26/2006 12:20:24 AM PDT by nimbuscloud
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To: nimbuscloud

"People who fill others' breathing air with noxious cigarette smoke are totally selfcentered and selfish."

Excuse me?!! If you have ever had a BBQ in your back yard, lit a camp fire, had a fire in your home fireplace, or if you currently drive a car you need to back off.
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What an illogical comparison! Do you carry a live, smoking BBQ with you into the public places you enter every day and accost your fellow citizens with it at every turn and find that nobody minds? The only way there might be a comparison to a BBQ would be if it was normal to carry a live BBQ into all the public places you visit every day and everybody was cool with that.

Having a BBQ in a private home is optional and choosable or not; walking into a wall of cigarette smoke in public is not.



151 posted on 07/26/2006 4:03:39 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: nimbuscloud

"I suggest that you promptly return home to your sealed plastic, steril bubble."

I suggest that you promptly stop smoking in public places so that the rest of us don't have to flee home.

If you would have that common courtesy of realizing you don't have the right to walk around in a public forum as a human cigarette smoke generator, it would not come to government being involved.



152 posted on 07/26/2006 4:14:01 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

"I suggest that you promptly stop smoking in public places so that the rest of us don't have to flee home.

If you would have that common courtesy of realizing you don't have the right to walk around in a public forum as a human cigarette smoke generator, it would not come to government being involved."

I suggest that you stop driving your car so that my family and I can leave our houses without being assaulted by your carcinogen spewing box of metal. What gives you the right to think you can expose us to these dangerous, life threatening substances? If you would just stop being such a selfish, immoral person and not drive, carpool, use public transportation, or get off your lazy arse and ride a bike, maybe we would not have to flee the streets every time we see you coming!

PS: I don’t ever want to see you BBQ’ing, having a camp fire. Also, I better not see one whiff of smoke coming from that chimney of yours!

I don't understand the significance of your name...you do not see anything clearly, you are blind to the real issues and from the tone of your posts you sound like a bitter, intolerant person. Get a life please, and leave us freedom loving Americans alone!


153 posted on 07/26/2006 11:46:40 AM PDT by nimbuscloud
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

"What an illogical comparison! Do you carry a live, smoking BBQ with you into the public places you enter every day and accost your fellow citizens with it at every turn and find that nobody minds? The only way there might be a comparison to a BBQ would be if it was normal to carry a live BBQ into all the public places you visit every day and everybody was cool with that.

Having a BBQ in a private home is optional and choosable or not; walking into a wall of cigarette smoke in public is not."

No, it is not an illogical comparison at all. If you have a BBQ in your back yard you are exposing others, who might not wish to be exposed, to smoke. The smoke from your BBQ or house fire wafts thorough your neighborhood for others to breathe in. These things also produce much more smoke then a cigarette. [Your] views and ideas are illogical hun...wake up and see the reality!


154 posted on 07/26/2006 11:51:21 AM PDT by nimbuscloud
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To: Hunble
Saturday, I will have people visiting my home. They intend to take blood, urine samples and conduct other invasive medical test. Why? Because my wife wants to save $20 per month on my life insurance!

Why would you subnit to that? I love my wife but if she said I was going to be giving samples of bodily fluids to some weenie and it was going to make her $20 a month, she would learn that devotion has its limits. I would never do something like that to her either.

155 posted on 07/27/2006 9:54:26 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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