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Protecting Syria from U.S. and Israel May Now Be Impossible
Al-Sharq Al-Awsat (Saudi Arabian Press) ^ | July 14, 2006 | Abd Al Rahman Al Rached/Nicolas Dagher

Posted on 07/20/2006 4:18:49 PM PDT by managusta

All of the region's concerned parties want to keep Damascus out of efforts to put pressure on Israel and Hezbullah. For a number of different reasons, the governments involved don't want the open battlefield to extend beyond the Lebanese border.

Even when President Bush said a few days ago that Syria must pay a price, he never said the price would be a military one. In Jordan, Egypt and the Gulf, in spite of differences with the Syrian government and in spite of suspicions that the Syrians had a role in pushing Hezbollah to get involved with Israel, these governments don't want this war to reach Damascus.

WHY INVADE DAMASCUS?

Lebanon is a country without a strong and reliable central government, and at the same time, it is impossible to control the actions of the various parties on the ground [such as Hezbullah]. As for Syria, on the other hand, there is a well-settled political system which would be undermined by a military attack, and which could lead to a situation that could spin out of Damascus' control. It is this likelihood of chaos that so frightens countries throughout the region. No one wants to see another Iraq or another regime come tumbling down.

One Arab official said: "We believe that the Syrian government committed serous mistakes, and continues to do so," in an apparent reference to the fact that Syria disrupted a deal between Hamas and Israel to free the first Israeli soldier that was kidnapped. Such a deal, if it had taken place, would likely have prevented Hezbollah from kidnapping two Israeli soldiers a few days later, sparking the war now taking place in Lebanon. He also added: "In spite of all this, there is an agreement that the fire should not reach Syria, since the Lebanese people would pay dearly for any destabilization that hits Syria."

Recently, Egypt sought to prevent a U.S. military campaign against Syria, following Washington's accusations that Damascus was behind all of the terrorist attacks against American soldiers in Iraq and the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. The countries of the region have interceded on many occasions to protect Syria from all possible attacks.

The question is: Can an angry Israel be kept away from Syria this time, especially since no one knows if Washington will look the other way?

Now there are signs that Israel might repeat its the invasion scenario that it undertook in Lebanon in 1982, but this time in Syria, taking advantage of its overwhelming military superiority. This possibility doesn’t escape Damascus, which is aware of the gravity of the situation.

According an Arab official familiar with the details of this situation, Iran is trying to drag its feet by using Syria to escalate the situation and avoid its own direct involvement. Iran is using Damascus like a chess piece to manipulate a regional conflict. Tehran is in a state of conflict with the West over its growing political influence in the region and its nuclear program, and is now prepared to move the crisis to the level of direct confrontation.

If such an open confrontation does take place, Iran knows that it has little to lose, being a large country with a strong military, and with an established political system and lots of oil in high demand.

Syria's situation is different, situated as it is between the hammer of American and anvil of Israeli, with a broken-down economy and unable to cope with Israeli power on its own.

Like the person afraid of seeing a demon, the Arab official said that there has always been a fear that such a war was likely to happen, and now it looks like the present war might spin out of control.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; assad; baathparty; hezbullah; iran; israel; syria; terrorists; terrorregimes; waronterror; wot

"The Islamic governments should know that if the Islamic resistance [Hezbullah] is defeated, tomorrow it will be the turn of Syria, the day after tomorrow it will be the turn of Saudi Arabia, and then will come the turn of Egypt and Jordan."

Ahmad Kahatami,Iranian cleric and star finger pupeteer.

Watch video at http://www.memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1197

1 posted on 07/20/2006 4:18:51 PM PDT by managusta
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To: managusta

He just saw the bullet... Now????

Idiot....


2 posted on 07/20/2006 4:22:03 PM PDT by Freeport
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To: managusta

I think he does the voice of Elmo for Saudi Arabia.


3 posted on 07/20/2006 4:22:42 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (God Protect Israel.)
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To: managusta
"The Islamic governments should know that if the Islamic resistance [Hezbullah] is defeated, tomorrow it will be the turn of Syria, the day after tomorrow it will be the turn of Saudi Arabia, and then will come the turn of Egypt and Jordan."

He purposefully left out Iran, which should come either right after or concurrently with Syria. Unfortunately no administration will have the intestinal fortitude to do what this Koranimal has foretold, unfortunately.
4 posted on 07/20/2006 4:22:54 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: managusta
"Like the person afraid of seeing a demon, the Arab official said that there has always been a fear that such a war was likely to happen, and now it looks like the present war might spin out of control."

Well you all should have spoken up sooner, and yelling Zionist-pigs all these years sure didn't help your cause!

5 posted on 07/20/2006 4:26:32 PM PDT by avacado
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To: managusta

I think they call it "The Shocker" and it goes like this...


6 posted on 07/20/2006 4:26:45 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (My Pug is On Her War Footing (and moving to Texas!))
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To: managusta
Dear Abd Al Rahman Al Rached/Nicolas Dagher,
"There's a price to be paid."
the boss done said so.....so it will be so.....bye.
7 posted on 07/20/2006 4:31:10 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ('No' worked so well, perhaps another word is in order?)
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To: managusta
No one wants to see another Iraq or another regime come tumbling down.

No One? I think several million Americans want to see another Iraq, and about 3 more Mideast regimes come tumbling down.

8 posted on 07/20/2006 4:31:49 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: managusta
"In spite of all this, there is an agreement that the fire should not reach Syria, since the Lebanese people would pay dearly for any destabilization that hits Syria."

To the contrary, the Lebanese people would benefit greatly if Syria was destabilized. They would be able to determine their own destiny without Assad terrorizing them.

9 posted on 07/20/2006 4:37:05 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ASA Vet

Peace Through Victory.... works everytime it's tried


10 posted on 07/20/2006 4:38:59 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ('No' worked so well, perhaps another word is in order?)
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To: managusta
It there is to be a war, then let it happen. All of my life there has been some middle eastern conflict, some middle eastern war. If I'm tired of it, I can only imagine what it must be like for those who live there.

Jews have been hounded by the most evil history has known and yet, today teeny, tiny Israel, surrounded by those who would love to destroy it, is rich with culture and knowledge and freely shares with the world, but still keeps reign on its military and nuclear weapons.

Oil rich Islamic nations offer nothing to the world but terrorist bombings and threats of more violence and, of course, to show the world what a failed society looks like. So much for all of their culture and history, not to mention their vast energy resources. Of what value are they to the planet? (Maybe that's why there aren't any muslims in the star trek future universe.)

If there is to be a middle eastern war to end all wars, then perhaps it's time to welcome it and be done with this constant bickering and bloodletting.

11 posted on 07/20/2006 4:40:37 PM PDT by GBA
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To: managusta

Spin out of control? I doubt it. Kicking Syria in the head would show that israel understands what is needed to control the situation and is going at it. The Islamic War cannot end favorably unless The West inflicts a massive and decisive defeat on the Saracens, and in this century that is Iran. At some point Iran's military and entire political establishment must be destroyed, not democratized, not brought to the negotiating table. Perhaps the decisive battle will take place based on Syria or will require storming Iran itself. The Jihad has never ceased in 1300 years. It is occasionally utterly whipped and withdraws into its deserts and bazaars for a couple of centuries. Then it comes surging back but it is for another generation to fight them then.


12 posted on 07/20/2006 4:48:24 PM PDT by arthurus (It is better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: GBA

I agree. We have a lot of underemployed nuclear weapons. It's time to rid the earth of these vermin once and for all.


13 posted on 07/20/2006 4:51:42 PM PDT by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: managusta

Great "sermon".


14 posted on 07/20/2006 4:53:59 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: GBA
It there is to be a war, then let it happen. All of my life there has been some middle eastern conflict, some middle eastern war. If I'm tired of it, I can only imagine what it must be like for those who live there.

Indeed.

Since WWII the ME has been a boil on the butt of the world that has been tolerated because of the oil, which the ME has made billions upon billions on, only to be squandered by narcissistic potentates, dictators and thugs.

Nine Eleven was the Rubicon.

The boil needs to be lanced lest it fester and infect the whole of the world.

Patience has run out.

15 posted on 07/20/2006 5:20:33 PM PDT by AFreeBird (... Burn the land and boil the sea's, but you can't take the sky from me.)
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To: managusta

Be afraid, be very afraid of the Great Satan and the Little Satan.


16 posted on 07/20/2006 5:33:46 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: managusta

Newt just said on O' Reilly that the US should send a fleet of B-52's in a fly-over of Damascus just so Assad gets the message.


17 posted on 07/20/2006 5:38:16 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Sure the BUFF has the recognizable image and all, but I would think that a fleet of B1's at low level and at full burn, would rattle a few palaces and offices and send a message quite nicely?


18 posted on 07/20/2006 5:57:13 PM PDT by AFreeBird (... Burn the land and boil the sea's, but you can't take the sky from me.)
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To: managusta
"The Islamic governments should know that if the Islamic resistance [Hezbullah] is defeated, tomorrow it will be the turn of Syria, the day after tomorrow it will be the turn of Saudi Arabia, and then will come the turn of Egypt and Jordan."
    Actually that would be
  1. Syria and then
  2. Iran

19 posted on 07/20/2006 6:00:40 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: managusta
How many times do we have to play this over before somebody gets it?

NO sanctuaries.

Not Laos, not Cambodia, not NVN, not Iran, not Syria. No sanctuaries. We didn't fight WW II in North Africa, or just that and Italy, or just that and Italy and France. No sanctuaries.

20 posted on 07/20/2006 6:02:20 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: AFreeBird

I expect that would work too.


21 posted on 07/20/2006 6:08:07 PM PDT by blam
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To: managusta
The question is: Can an angry Israel be kept away from Syria this time, especially since no one knows if Washington will look the other way?

Look the other way??? I want us to smack em from the east while Israel stomps em on the west. Let them try a 2 front war between terrifying Israel and an avenging America. Talk about a rock and a hard place.

We owe this little prick syrians for sponsoring all those cowardly bombers they've sent into Iraq to kill our people, let alone their support for Hez all these years and our 241 marines killed.

22 posted on 07/20/2006 6:42:23 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Middle East Interactive Map: http://interneticsonline.com.dish5009.net.ibizdns.com/MEMap.html)
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To: GBA


Well the funny thing is that there is Muslims in Star Trek Universe......their Klingons and we kick their ass! Let Damascus fall! I say we help the Jews and fight till the last terrorist is dead.... and then find a way to fuel our FORDS with their rotten bodies.


23 posted on 07/20/2006 6:57:10 PM PDT by ICBM from Them
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Good point. We do have an airbase or two slightly to their east.


24 posted on 07/20/2006 8:32:31 PM PDT by jschwartz
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To: arthurus

Looks like you and a few other here are dreaming about WW3.


25 posted on 07/21/2006 5:08:02 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

You think it is not here? World War in its classic sense can be staved off or terminated if the West i.e. the US inflicts a deasting and total defeat on Iran. The earlier it is done the less widespread the conflagration will be. If we tamp it down with diplomacy, say bring the Arab governments to split from Iran because of fear of the Persians, that will put off the reckoning only a little while longer and make it worse when it comes. These things have recurred for 1300 years. It will not change just because this is the 21st century.


26 posted on 07/21/2006 6:06:37 PM PDT by arthurus (It is better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: arthurus
"You think it is not here?"

It's not here.

"World War in its classic sense can be staved off or terminated if the West i.e. the US inflicts a deasting and total defeat on Iran."

Any attack on Iran and Syria will start WW3. Besides where the hell half million soldiers would you found ?
27 posted on 07/21/2006 11:03:14 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
I agree with you. It's now our war. Amazes me how so many otherwise intelligent and rational FReepers jump blindly on the "attack Syria and Iran" bandwagon, without thinking of the consequences.

Absolutely SHAMELESS.

28 posted on 07/27/2006 11:42:40 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: managusta
I doubt seriously if Israel intends any extensive operations in Syria for any reason, much less an occupation. Why would it deliberatly overextend its lines and become vulnerable to the only military activity their opponents can hope to successfully conduct?

But I can understand Syrian concern. Should Israel desire to proceed north in pursuit of Hezbollah Damascus would have the IDF to the west and the U.S. Army to the east. That part of Syria would become indefensible, and it contains the national capital. And the two armies in question aren't entirely neutral in sentiment in the matter, both having been on the receiving end of covert operations that were at least supported and in many cases originated by the Syrians. They should be worried.

29 posted on 07/27/2006 11:55:54 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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