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'Steering Casualty' Injures Passengers On Cruise Ship
WCBS-TV News Reports ^ | 7/18/06 | WCBS-TV, WKMG-TV

Posted on 07/18/2006 2:19:33 PM PDT by conservative in nyc

Edited on 07/18/2006 2:48:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

POSTED: 4:59 pm EDT July 18, 2006
UPDATED: 5:12 pm EDT July 18, 2006

PORT CANAVERAL, Fla. -- A cruise ship took a heavy roll at sea, injuring several passengers, according to Coast Guard officials at Port Canaveral.

The Coast Guard did not report how many degrees the ship Crown Princess rolled before it righted itself. Officials only said that the ship experienced what it called "a steering casualty."

Coast Guard spokesman Petty Officer James Judge said he didn't know how many people were hurt or how serious any of the injuries were.

The cruise ship is heading back to port.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: crownprincess; cruiseship; frontpage
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I'll try to find a link when available.
1 posted on 07/18/2006 2:19:35 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

Hope that everyone is ok.


2 posted on 07/18/2006 2:21:01 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: conservative in nyc

Local news in Jacksonville just covered it. No link. But they said steering malfunction caused ship to list seriously to one side and some passengers had been injured. Ship on way back to port.


3 posted on 07/18/2006 2:21:43 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: mysterio

It sounds like there may be some injuries. I've asked the mods to replace the post with this article:

http://www.local6.com/news/9537249/detail.html


4 posted on 07/18/2006 2:22:12 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

A cruise to BROOKLYN?


5 posted on 07/18/2006 2:22:20 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: conservative in nyc

One of those big-uns?


6 posted on 07/18/2006 2:22:23 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: conservative in nyc

Seems there are a lot of problems with cruise ships lately. Or maybe they are just really hyped.


7 posted on 07/18/2006 2:23:54 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: conservative in nyc

Cruise to Brooklyn???

Taking all those Floriduhians back to their roots.


8 posted on 07/18/2006 2:24:57 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: conservative in nyc

Was a zodiac full of muslims seen speeding away?


9 posted on 07/18/2006 2:25:10 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: conservative in nyc
it started to list toward one direction

Every ship I have ever operated (or been on) was only capable of listing toward one direction. Listing in two or more directions is called "sinking".

I guess we have government-educated reporters giving us this information.

10 posted on 07/18/2006 2:25:10 PM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "The time has come to take the bull by the tail and face the situation".)
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To: conservative in nyc

"a steering casualty."

Whatever that is?


11 posted on 07/18/2006 2:25:11 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
A very big-un. The Crown is one of Princess' newer and larger ships.

A severe list like this no doubt required lots of changes of underwear.

Visions of the Poseidon Adventure.

12 posted on 07/18/2006 2:25:24 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: conservative in nyc
the ship was headed to Brooklyn. All of a sudden, it started to list toward one direction.To port would be my guess.
13 posted on 07/18/2006 2:25:28 PM PDT by steveo (Fathers Against Rude Television: You may already be a member)
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To: conservative in nyc

OMG!! "before the ship righted itself"....Geesh....THAT"S scary!! Crown Princess is a big ship....it said "a steering casualty" was the problem....wonder what that means.


14 posted on 07/18/2006 2:25:43 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: capt. norm

LOL!


15 posted on 07/18/2006 2:25:59 PM PDT by cmsgop ( President Mahmud Ahmadinejad Must Purify Himself in The Waters of Lake Minnetonka)
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To: conservative in nyc
All of a sudden, it started to list toward one direction.

Gotta remember to fasten that little plug in the transom before you let her slip off the trailer...

16 posted on 07/18/2006 2:26:10 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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To: Veto!
A cruise to BROOKLYN?

Yes. They opened up a cruise ship port there this year or last. Believe it or not, that's where the QEII departs from when it calls port in New York.
17 posted on 07/18/2006 2:26:32 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
But they said steering malfunction caused ship to list seriously to one side

I don't see how this could be. Maybe the sterring is disabled due to damage, but just losing steering would not cause the ship to list.

18 posted on 07/18/2006 2:26:41 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: capt. norm

LOL....good catch. Was listing astern with just the bow sticking out of the water?


19 posted on 07/18/2006 2:27:01 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: sinkspur

"A severe list like this no doubt required lots of changes of underwear."

Oh, the humanity!


20 posted on 07/18/2006 2:27:04 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Wings-n-Wind

NBC4 news has passenger on phone. Boat listed about 50 degrees.
Says hundreds of passengers injured.


21 posted on 07/18/2006 2:27:12 PM PDT by MarineMom613
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

"...But they said steering malfunction caused ship to list seriously to one side..."

That doesn't make sense.


22 posted on 07/18/2006 2:27:51 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Starboard

Update:

Cruise Ship Passengers Injured During Sharp Turn

POSTED: 4:59 pm EDT July 18, 2006
UPDATED: 5:23 pm EDT July 18, 2006

PORT CANAVERAL, Fla. -- A cruise ship took a heavy roll at sea, injuring several passengers, according to Coast Guard officials at Port Canaveral.

The Coast Guard did not report how many degrees the ship Crown Princess rolled before it righted itself. Officials only said that the ship experienced what it called "a steering casualty."

Coast Guard spokesman Petty Officer James Judge said he didn't know how many people were hurt or how serious any of the injuries were.
Click here to find out more!

The cruise ship is heading back to port.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

http://www.local6.com/news/9537249/detail.html


23 posted on 07/18/2006 2:28:42 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

24 posted on 07/18/2006 2:29:14 PM PDT by cmsgop ( President Mahmud Ahmadinejad Must Purify Himself in The Waters of Lake Minnetonka)
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To: MarineMom613

I seriously doubt it ACTUALLY listed 50 degrees - any list will feel like it's a lot further than it actually was.


25 posted on 07/18/2006 2:29:28 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: MarineMom613

HOLY CRAP! That thing had to have been hit by a giant wave to roll that far!


26 posted on 07/18/2006 2:29:40 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: MarineMom613

How much is 50 degrees? What position would the boat be in?


27 posted on 07/18/2006 2:29:42 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: conservative in nyc
All of a sudden, it started to list toward one direction...

Michael Moore on board?

28 posted on 07/18/2006 2:30:08 PM PDT by keat (I'm carbon neutral - how 'bout you?)
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To: Starboard

Eh, if it was at high speed and suddenly turned sharply, you'd have a pretty big list. I've seen pics of Nimitz class CVs on trials and the list when they turn at full speed is pretty impressive.


29 posted on 07/18/2006 2:30:33 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: conservative in nyc

I believe these ships have got a self-leveling mechanism on them to help keep them from rolling in a storm. perhaps the problem is with this function.


30 posted on 07/18/2006 2:31:02 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: woollyone

LOL - PING


31 posted on 07/18/2006 2:31:11 PM PDT by Harp50
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To: conservative in nyc

Thanks. I hardly think of Brooklyn as a cruise destination as it lacks glamor, palm trees, beaches, foreign cultures, and quaint natives of various shades of brown diving for dollars. Oh wait.


32 posted on 07/18/2006 2:31:12 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: conservative in nyc
Self ping because I'm curious to see what really happened.
33 posted on 07/18/2006 2:32:02 PM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: conservative in nyc

Just another reason to avoid cruises. The last thing I want is the entertainment director taking over when the rest of the crew abandons the ship (this actually happened!)


34 posted on 07/18/2006 2:32:03 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: MarineMom613
50 degrees is prrrretttttyyyy close to a capsize.... I s'pect

Makes you wonder about water-ballast pumps, fuel pumps & distribution side-2-side...

There's a shortage of seamanship somewhere here... IMHO

35 posted on 07/18/2006 2:32:04 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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To: Panzerlied

A jambed rudder will do that if the opposite thruster and leveling plane went at the same time (think of coordinated flight on an airplane).


36 posted on 07/18/2006 2:32:13 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Normal4me

I'm guessing some kind of hydralic malfunction in the steering system.

I really know absolutely nothing about this kind of ship or any ship.


37 posted on 07/18/2006 2:32:21 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
""a steering casualty."

"Whatever that is?"

Didn't know they still sold space in steerage.

38 posted on 07/18/2006 2:32:33 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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To: cmsgop
Here's the picture (probably of the ship) on WKMG-TV's website:



It left from Port Canaveral, not Fort Lauderdale as I previously reported. It's returning back to port now.
39 posted on 07/18/2006 2:32:34 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Normal4me

Read my mind.


40 posted on 07/18/2006 2:33:46 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Sam Cree

Steering Casualty just means something seriously broke in the steering mechanisms. Doesn't involve any humans getting hurt. Just naval-speak. Engineering Casualty means the engines severely broke, etc.


41 posted on 07/18/2006 2:33:52 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Suzy Quzy

Imagine yourself tilting about the center point of standing upright and being flat on the floor. That's 45 degrees. I imagine flat on the floor would be 90 degrees. Sounds pretty serious.


42 posted on 07/18/2006 2:34:32 PM PDT by SaveTheChief ("Now if you'll excuse me, I have some idea balls to remove from a manatee tank.")
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To: Suzy Quzy

Didn't you take math girl? On a clock it would be about on the 2, make it 2:05. ;-) When it got to 3, it would be on its side. 6 and it would be upside down.


43 posted on 07/18/2006 2:34:41 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Sam Cree

Know the talent on FR it won't be long until we get to the bottom of this.

"Steerage". Crossed my mind too.


44 posted on 07/18/2006 2:34:49 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: mysterio
...Or maybe they are just really hyped.

As a travel agent, I can assure you that this is an isolated situation. It seems like they were broadsided by a freak wave. Has anyone made the connection with a certain "triangle"?

Whenever you take a large group and throw them together, you make a perfect situation for exploitation. Sometimes it is newhounds, other times it is a robber thug throwing someone overboard, after hearing him brag about 20 grand in his room (duh!).

We heard incessant stories from Aruba, and too many people blamed an island community for the problems of one girl who had been on holiday. Aruba is a well-known place where you only have to be 16 to drink, and yet her parents didn't think enough of her to go along to supervise! then, it is the fault of the "Arubans", when ill befalls her.

Shiite happens everywhere...

Wanna go on a cruise? It's a hell of a lot safer than Brooklyn!


45 posted on 07/18/2006 2:35:09 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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But they said steering malfunction caused ship to list seriously to one side

That had to be one sharp turn.

I'll bet the bridge is receiving all kinds of bad news from the galley(s) and dining areas. On vessels I have operated, the cooks have lost more than a few batches of baked beans that left their baking pan and went all over the galley due to the ship's roll, usually due to rough seas.

If you're making a turn and while making part of that turn it sets you in a wave trough in heavy seas, you're going to spill a few things. (Seems like it was almost always baked beans that it happened with).

46 posted on 07/18/2006 2:35:45 PM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "The time has come to take the bull by the tail and face the situation".)
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To: sgtbono2002

Yes, sounds like the stabilizer fins got stuck, one up, and the one on the other side down.


47 posted on 07/18/2006 2:36:15 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: conservative in nyc
It left from Port Canaveral, not Fort Lauderdale as I previously reported. It's returning back to port now.

Port Canaveral is in Fort Lauderdale.

48 posted on 07/18/2006 2:36:18 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: SaveTheChief; Normal4me

Thanks so much for the mannerly answer...unlike ANOTHER freeper!!


49 posted on 07/18/2006 2:36:34 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
How much is 50 degrees?

I can't help it...."about five degrees more than a 45 degree list.

50 posted on 07/18/2006 2:36:58 PM PDT by KC Burke
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